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**Traveller too!** » 2012-09-26 09:51

How shallow we Antiguans have become. I have heard many Antiguans who have become naturalized American citizens proudly refer to themselves as Americans. How many times have we their fellow Antiguans proudly followed their educational and secular progress. On the other hand right here in Antigua we refuse to recognize people for who they are and what they do that is of course unless they happen to be of a particular race or complexion. Traveller surely lack quite a bit of perception for it can be no coincidence that Mr. Dundas is still at the helm of the ABCTA since the position is no doubt an elected one and the people who consistently elect him have no time for the position because their priority is their businesses or their official positions and it offers no financial benefits or incentives. How sad it is also that we have become so polarized that we can only see things through red or blue.

**Traveller** » 2012-09-25 17:08

Is this information fact or fiction, was our delegation given such a hard time or is this more of a drubbing by some one that wants to see our people look bad (an ALP supporter may be?)
The bottom line i**le or nothing has been done to Heritage Quay since it was built twenty five years ago. All of the profits have been frittered away on useless projects like the Multipurpose center and other useless none profit investments. If we had re-invested the profits from Heritage Quay back into the Quay, by now we would have had one of the finest cruise ship facilities in the Caribbean. This is not Politics, it is fact, who ever grasp the nettle and if it is Brown, credit where it’s due.
It’s time to make a move and at least Brown has started the ball rolling let’s keep it so and try to get the Cruise ships back here however we have to do it.
:-?

**John French II** » 2012-09-25 17:02

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock! That some cannot see that the Consultant's Report/Study has been seen either in whole or in part by eyes other than the Political Elite is such a destructive element in the social & cultural fabric of the country that many would be reminded to hear it from the Patron of the Good Hon. Dr. PM, none other than philosopher Dr. Paget Henry. Quote:

Once periheralization is accomplishe, both economic and political systems cease to be locally controlled. Periheralization requires the displacement of local national authority by external national authority. This external usurpation of economic and political power and the resistance to it, constitute the basis of the relations between the two countries. These relations are mediated by the peripheral state.... It is this transformation of the peripheral state into an instrument of external interests that modifies the ... relations with the cultural system.

Fiscally Adjusted and Structurally Reformed while eking out an existence in the IMF's NEST.
Heaven Help The 95% People of African Descent Of The Country of Antigua & Barbuda including Redonda.

**Traveller** » 2012-09-25 16:34

The truth is that something needs to be done, but, as you say there are too many none Antiguans involved. Dundus who swanks about as head xxxho has little or no knowledge of the Cruise Tourism industry just happened to be lucky enough to be elected when there was no one at the AGM of ABCT who wanted the job and has stuck there ever since. His paymaster is Brysons who just happen to have cornered the market in the Cruise ship arrivals because they were the biggest, so his knowledge is based on knowing how to tie ships up and not what’s good for the visiting tourists. On top of this he is a staunch ALP man with political aspirations so he’s not going to be much help making the UPP look good is he? (or what's good for anybody in Antigua)

**rupert j.** » 2012-09-25 16:08

Who are these people we have running things in this country, just how do they think they could get away with something like that, only the good lord knows.

**Common Cents** » 2012-09-25 15:43

@ Common Sense, I will repeat, for the fifth time, that the paramaters of the report will determine whether or not consultation is necessary. If, FOR EXAMPLE, I am reporting only on the physical capacity of the port, the numbers it can handle, and the capacity for expansion, I would NOT need to carry out a consultation to determine this.

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They are all based on "leaks" no proof provided

This is where you are incorrect. For example, the recent leaking of the video from Romney's campaign is proof in itself. Also, please don't think that there are many operatives in BOTH camps who are quite happy to post misleading information ("double agents") for their parties gain. All I am saying is, it is difficult to accept as factual this particular report from Caribarena seriously, especially due to lack of proof. If you believe everything that comes from every news source without proof, I feel very sorry for you. This is my last post on this topic

**Common Sense** » 2012-09-25 10:13

Commonsense I was very suprised at your analaysis and determination that consultation is not necessary for a study as this one. That is absolutley nonsensical. A study of this nature demands the stakeholders input on implications for change, the Business strategy of the stakeholder, the proposed relevance to the stakeholder and I can go on and on.
Please dont confuse people with your lack of knowledge.
Antigua for example can pay for and conduct a study and then the stakeholders decides that they will move their business to St Kitts. Where does this leave Antigua ?

Additionally you speak of the annyominity of the information provided which again shows your lack of knowledge: Take for Example all of the leaks that is coming out about the Presdiential Elections in the great USA . They are all based on "leaks" no proof provided , but thats how people get to know what otherpeople especially powerful people tend to or want to keep secret. So when the questions are asked thats how the public gets to know. .. Think howmw many things we just here in A&B have learnt through info that has been leakd .. lest u forget..be smarter..it takes more than just common sense...

**Common Cents** » 2012-09-24 22:37

@Skyewill, it completely depends on the parameters of the study. You do not NEED consultations to have a good study. In fact, in many instances they may not add anything material. It all depends on what aspects were being examined.

And while SOME Antiguan and Barbudans may like "cogging", I take umbridge to your generalisation. Many, many ANTIGUAN and BARBUDAN brilliant minds have produced many original studies. I know because I am one of them, and I did not "cog" anyones work

@Tenman,
My point was that someone, under the veil of secrecy, and thus not available to criticism, levelled some serious accusations to which they provided no proof for. Also, there is nothing to show whether what this person said is completely correct, or whether this person has some sort of hidden agenda or axe to grind. What I am saying is, the entire story sounds quite biased to give support to the mysterious unnamed source, which in itself is a bit too fishy for my liking. I'm NOT saying that they are necessarily lying, just that they provide so little proof to back up their claims it makes me wonder

**skyewill** » 2012-09-24 20:41

I would charge $100,000 for the agrivation

**skyewill** » 2012-09-24 20:40

you are wrong. A good study or report need great consultation and a lot of it in order to achieve positive output. In order to do the job right you must do tons of research and you should also document your sources in order to not only give credit for original thought but to avoid plagerism. The one thing I do know about Antiguans the cog if they can and without knowing anything they make other people ideas (if they think its good) sound like their own that was how a particular doctor did my ideas. But the essance of an idea lies within the soul of the originator. a good idea will not work as planned without the originator

**skyewill** » 2012-09-24 20:23

I read the part where we paid $50,000 USD for a $4000 job. These people are sick. I do believe it's not just the Government ministers to blame it's some of these so-called experts how suck on the weiney, High profile duncy bxxs. A bunch of yuk mouths. Lock them up for false statements and deceiving the public...Fire them!

**tenman** » 2012-09-24 18:59

Common Cents did you read this part:
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According to our information, the representatives added that they were not consulted as has been claimed

Yes Common Cents the report claimed something that Caribarena has been informed is untrue. In addition, the statement made by Browne confirms that the group was not consulted

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**Common Cents** » 2012-09-24 18:45

Curious, I would like you to engage your rational faculties, if even for just a minute. I don't need to consult with stakeholders for a study - or else it would be a CONSULTATION and not a STUDY. These are two different things. Likewise, one could easily go to the airport, look at tourist arrivals and recorded responses, examine the physical layout, and come to a correct conclusion based on the parameters of their study. Consultation with others is not necessary, unless the report specifically calls for it.

**Clergy** » 2012-09-24 17:27

1) The truth is the current Minister of Tourism is out to lunch - permanently!

2) Is it true a group going dredge the harbour without going to tender?

3) The PM is always away from Antigua and Barbuda so anything goes!

**Curious Caribarena** » 2012-09-24 13:27

The only reason you are curious about the Caribarena story is obviously because you choose to hide your head in the sand like so many . The report clearly states the Cruise Lines were not consulted > how could the consultant do a "study" and not consult with the main interest which is the Cruise Lines , that why all the faults and errors mentioned are stated in the report. Please dont make comments if you are going to be biased . Its not your curiosity is the problem here . Its your ignorance

**Rastaman** » 2012-09-24 13:18

When will we learn? we are doing ourselves more harm than good this is ridiculous

**Common Cents** » 2012-09-24 12:21

While I do admit that there are many questions regarding the state of the cruise tourism in A&B, I question the veracity of this "report"

It is difficult to take this article seriously, as they have not given the origin of the information contained. Not only that, but they have, it seems, tried to trash the report given by the previous consultation, without bothering to go into reasons or explanations as to WHY they disagree, or how they arrived at their figure of $4,000, and why there was such a disparity

**ha ha ha ha** » 2012-09-24 11:20

That US 50k could have been spent on cleaning up ST Johns and reapiring all the open drains and sidewalk. This is just waste of tax payers money like the US$75k spent to hold a socalled tourism study by the Trinidad Dr Poon at Sandals hotel.. What has come out of that study ? absolutley nothing. How are tese socalled consultants hired ? is there a tender Proces to spend taxpayers money ? somebody need to be held accountable >> somebody need to be brought to answer for the wasteage when the island have no money...

**Dig It** » 2012-09-24 10:51

Tenman, a "sham" indeed! Funny that you "want you money back," but as you know that is all gone to "share-up!" They really think that they can "fool" the people all the time! If this study is a "sham," I wonder what the Minister of Tourism think it it? Oh, I forget, he is too busy playing tennis or "dodging" his constituents!

**Dig It** » 2012-09-24 10:34

Well, these are some "serious charges" by the cruise executives! So, the "master plan" for downtown was after-all a total "duplicate" version by the SJDC? And, we paid a consultant $50,OOO dollars for a "over-priced" study that supposed to be $4,OOO? I am not surprize here because just like "fencing" we have an appetite to "waste" money! The sad part is no one ever held to the "fire-at-the-ga te!"

**Johnny** » 2012-09-24 10:24

Caribarena come better than that man! Who is questioning the report? I cant be an anonymous source and you just expect us to buy that. Who is saying that they woul do the job for $4,000 instead of $50,000? Do we know that that is true, do we know that they would do the same job? Too many unanswered questions for me to jump on the bandwagon with your other idiot bloggers

**A Stitch in Time** » 2012-09-24 10:18

**ha ha ha ha** » 2012-09-24 08:32

hahahah .. i wonder who you referring to Mr Brown who was born in Trinidad ? Mr Pole who was born in St Kitts ? or Mr Dundas who was born in Guyana ? seems like a lot of people not born Antiguans .. But then again how would u know ? Instead of you commenting on the waste of money you seek to attack an individual >. so stupid .. but very reflective of the Vindictive UPP .. If anyone dares speak the truth .. you are not patriotic... so Typical..

**$4000 vs $50000 usd** » 2012-09-24 08:05

The Government and Tourism Authority caught ROBBING the people of Antigua and Barbuda again.

**tenman** » 2012-09-24 08:02

Truth is many locals also questioned the veracity of the said study. The main group in love with said study are lead by Patrick Ryan who a Caribarena article states:
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Ryan admitted he does not have the full details of the plan as he was not part of consultations on the issue. see http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/tourism/tourism-news/101601-tour-operators-support-taxi-relocation.html

now the above article states:
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According to our information, the representatives added that they were not consulted as has been claimed

The taxi men have also stated they were never consulted. I want my money back for this sham study.

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**caribenafan** » 2012-09-24 07:23

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ah yet another embar**ment !! from our **ed leader's on this island ...... we are doomed .... blue or red ... we go dead :o(

**Jumbee Picknee** » 2012-09-24 06:27

As Lord Bold Face said, "Wen u no kno, U jus no kno." (When you don't know, you just don't know.)
These Tourism Officials may not know how to run this business efficiently and effectively, but they sure know how to pad t :sigh:

he accounting statements. $50,000. for a $4000.00 job, and besides, the same job/task was already completed before.
When, oh Lord Jah, God, Allah, Bhuddah, or any other name by which THOU called upon, when will We the poor people of this Nation of Antigua, Barbuda & Redonda get to see these **s get punished for their wicked deeds that they do to US.

**Seriously?** » 2012-09-24 05:52

This would be amusing except Antigua is also able to flag ships, issue passports and engage in international banking.

**Omen** » 2012-09-24 03:50

So yet another scented report, oooh what a surprise.

**Ha ha ha** » 2012-09-24 02:56

I wonder who is the non-Antiguan within the Cruise Tourism industry has extremely close ties with the FCCA and in particular a senior female official; who is also closely associated with a former Minister of Tourism of the ALP and the Labour Party itself; and who uses his close association with the cruise line official and a local cruise association as a bully pulpit to get his way and undermine the government and Ministers of Tourism? Remember we were told by this individual that a certain cruise line pulled out of Antigua because of the beating of our police by some unruly tourists when he knew full well that nothing could have been further from the truth. This individual wanted to deliver our downtown area to a particular cruise line that would have seen our cruise port being like those in Haiti and Jamaica where the cruise line owns everything hook, line and sinker and decides who and what can operate there. After not getting his way, he opposes every move by the current government to improve St. John's.

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