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Spencer Ends Silence on Long Bay

Spencer Ends Silence on Long BayAntigua St John's - Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer has finally addressed the controversial expansion of the ‪Grand Pineapple Beach Resort‬ at Long Bay. Vendors who play their trade at the popular beach have been demonstrating against a proposed US$100 M project.

Spencer has said the development is in the interest of the people of Antigua & Barbuda, and that care has been taken to ensure that the interests of the vendors are protected.

“We have discussed with the Sandals Group, the people behind the planned upgrading and expansion of the present hotel into a Beaches brand resort, that they should ensure that the livelihood of the vendors must be protected, and they have agreed,” the PM explained in a recent interview.

He said the developers have proposed upgraded facilities for the vendors within the new facility when it is completed. And the prime minister did not miss an opportunity to accuse opposition forces of being behind the daily demonstrations at Long Bay.

“There are people with narrow political agendas who are behind the protests taking place at Long Bay,” he noted.

But while Spencer addressed the issue of the vendors, he failed to deal with the rights of the general public to continue to enjoy Long Bay beach in the manner they have been able to for generations.

He made no mention of this issue, a point that was noted by the area's Parliamentary representative, Robin Yearwood. The St Phillip’s North MP said the concerns of the vendors, while important, are not at the level of the peace of mind that the public experiences with the unfettered access to Long Bay beach.


“Churches, civil, and other organisations, families and individuals all journey to Long Bay during the year for picnics. That is what we are fighting to protect,” Yearwood explained.

He reiterated that he is not against the hotel's expansion and upgrading, but he believes the hotel has enough land to do the expansion without affecting the people’s right to the beach.

See related stories:

Yearwood responds to Lovell and Stewart

Long bay beach battle Continues

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Smart one

#62 naiomi » 2011-06-22 23:54

This is not a time to be sarcastic? u mek me sin my soul because this is a very serious issue
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What a reaction #2

#61 Smart One » 2011-06-22 23:48

And I have nothing against Sandals, because any investment they do will eventually have benefits for Antigua and Antiguans. But again I know as a matter of fact that the trickle-down effect of Sandals is far less than that of a normal Bed and Breakfast Hotel. All inclusive hotels have killed the local economy. Butch and Barrett have almost eliminated the local businessmen. They bring in everything mostly duty free. They even specialize in some water sports that use to be supplied by locals. And what they don’t supply they have extreme conditions for. Such as extremely high insurance premiums that the tour operators need to carry with them as the beneficiary on the policy. But I think all this was done just to measure the public opinion. We do not know anything at all of the deal. Caribarena was just given a bone to throw for us to see the reaction. Good political moves you could say.
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What a reaction #1

#60 Smart One » 2011-06-22 23:47

I am glad that at least John French II could see the sarcasm of my comments. But serious thing are told in jokes. The way we are going with our politician we will soon lose our birth right. And our children will wonder in their own land as foreigners. I posted this already in the early article of this issue my comments under the header “Antigua for Sale
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@perplexed

#59 Antiguan Woman » 2011-06-22 21:39

I can assure you,Beaches resort will not change one thing about their models,the vendors will be displaced, and the welcoming feeling we get from going to the beach will slowly disappear,Have you ever been to D,son since sandals,its like you,re trespassing on unknown grounds,if you have knowledge of how these resorts operate,you will know there is no room for changes, no one should be surprised that they are trying to deceive,This is nothing new coming from the UPP Govt,everyday we open our eyes,the lies and deceit is staring us right in our faces.
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@Wada

#58 Antiguan Woman » 2011-06-22 21:29

Yes Confucius, you missed the entire gist of the situation,it is this,I quote, "Antigua people say Long bay fu tap just lacka how e be, find some way else fu put Beaches."
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He ended his silence with what?

#57 ALP Pickney » 2011-06-22 21:10

More of the same crrrrrrraaap.. Mr. Spencer you are really begining to sound exactly like what I thought you sounded like before the 2004 elections. Incompentent, cowardly, incapable of running anything more than your mouth and a complete and abject failure. You have no comprehension of any subject or idea. Without your speech writer you would be NOTHING. Call elections now and prove to all that you still have the majority of the people believing in you.
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RE: Spencer Ends Silence on Long Bay

#56 Mr Mango » 2011-06-22 19:55

How many times do i have to say this? The problem is not the vendors or access or blue or red it is TOURISM. Once again, i'll spell it out: Mass Tourism Is Dead. Hotels here are half empty most of the year. Occupancy rates are at there lowest ever. We have penty of availability for all visiors. WE DO NOT NEED ANYMORE HOTEL ROOMS!! You are being misled, diverted and lied to. There is no demand for more hotel rooms. With or without vendors, with or withour beach access. Get it? It's all about bribery, back-handers from contractors, suppliers, everyone...so argue as much as you want about vendors and access...they are laughing their heads off because you are missing the point.
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Tenman

#55 Buzzbomb » 2011-06-22 19:29

Sorry, I was not clear in my last post.
The talks with SXM, Anguilla, and St. Kitts were about distribution and sale of the power through undersea cables, not duplication of geothermal generating plants.
It makes sense to a layman like me to maximize the consumer market and pay down your front end financing as fast as possible.
I don't know about their business plan but some info I've heard makes sense.
Okay! Confirmed, I have drastically digressed from the issues at Long Bay, which by the way seem much easier problems to solve.
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re: tenman & perplexed

#54 fnpsr » 2011-06-22 19:23

Tenman, Perplexed, while we protect our non-performing institutional entities, such as APUA and the like, other islands are looking forward. The small island of nevis already has a wind farm in operation.

I recall some months ago we debated alternative enery solutions, such a wind farms and solar. Today we are still talking about it while other islands are looking at us through their rear view mirrors.

"Let's fix the little things before we attenpt to fix the big things."
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re: et al

#53 fnpsr » 2011-06-22 19:13

Tenman, Buzzbomb, Perplxed and others, I appreciate your taking the time to read the article on the Geothermal Plant. This is a huge project. As I understand it, there seems to be an inaudinate amount of energy discovered in the ground in Nevis. Islands as far north as Puerto Rico and as far south as Barbados have expressed interest in the eclectricty that will be genrated. Submarine cables will be run under the sea to provide electricity to St. Kitts amd the other islands. This will lower the electric cost to the residents of St. Kitts and Nevis. The developers will make their money by selling electricity to other islands, such as ANTIGUA. AUPA, look out!!

And of course the government of Nevis will get a percentage, in perpertuity, on all profits, with very little capital outlay.

"Let's fix the little things before we attempt to fix the big things."
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Perplexed

#52 tenman » 2011-06-22 18:47

Perplexed I listened to a conversation involving Joan Underwood, and the elec. manager at APUA on the government info channel. The question was put to Francis why not allow persons to use alternative energy. The answer he gave was that they would consider it on a case by case basis. Why would anyone make the large investment alternative energy requires if APUA plans to have a haphazard policy and prejudiced policy knowing how things work here? What Underwood and another guest tried to get across to him was that similar to the way he is able to outsource electricity generation to APC, he could allow it to be done by others in the public for a cheaper price than with APC because these persons would be using the sun or wind. His best answer was that they are still studying the issue. While APUA fiddles on this issue, we all know that the price for electricity here has been only increasing.

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Wait

#51 Perplexed » 2011-06-22 17:57

What happened to the wind farm that was being talking about in 2004? I thought someone was willing to invest in it? Oh yeah APUA NO COMPETITION rule.
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@ Tenman

#50 Buzzbomb » 2011-06-22 17:50

I am by no means an authority on the Nevis geothermal plant but years ago I was told by a chap from Sint Maarten that the developers were in talks with his government, Anguilla and of course St. Kitts. It sounded like a good idea with drastic reductions in imported diesel and related polution concerns. The main thought I took away was that it is like hydro or wind generated power; clean, renuable, expensive to get started, yet inexpensive to run other than regular maintenence costs.
Sounded advantageous over the importation of fossil fuels.
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@ Perplexed

#49 Buzzbomb » 2011-06-22 17:33

Arrgh, Politicians.
They love prestige, privilage, ribbon cuttings, photo ops and sound bites.
However; doing the right thing including the livlihood of common folks..... not so much.
Afterall, when was the last time you or I gave thousands of dollars to an election campaign?
I don't think anyone is against foreign investment or development with the associated opportunities that accompany it. I think it's more a matter of doing these things correctly where everyone benefits and no one is disenfranchised .
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@ Perplexed

#48 naiomi » 2011-06-22 17:19

BWIA use to fly from Toronto to Antigua and it stop when it became caribbean airlines. Air Canada gouge us just to come to Antigua. It is the most W.I island to travel to from Canada. I pay over 1000.00 to come home to Antigua. If antigua allow CA to fly from canada, Air Canada will have competition and then the fare would not be so expensive.
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PM Spencer

#47 Antiguan Youth » 2011-06-22 17:09

Your next position is already secured after the next General Elections....et : former PM.
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fnpsr

#46 tenman » 2011-06-22 17:06

fnpsr thanks for the link. Its just a reminder that there is no strategic long term plan.

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@buzzbomb

#45 Perplexed » 2011-06-22 16:52

That is because antiguan politicans and their blind supporters can only see building hotels as our only means of improving the economy. On both sides of the divide the only investment they can think of is hotels forgetting that they will have to have aggressive marketing in order to attain the types of airlifts necessary to fill these hotels. Our hotels are empty right now and our government have not been able to fulfill their obligations to Caribbean Airlines. Why do you think this is? WHy didnt they market antigua to get those seats on CAL filled so that they would not have to go to tax payers to reimburse the airlines. UPP had this grand idea of a Festivals Park, I believe this was going to be an amusement park with a west indian flavor. WHat ever happened to that? We had a dolphins park but we fought against that tooth and nail and now we do not have that attraction any longer. Didnt understand that fight at all because many antiguans would travel to Orlando to see Shamu.
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@ fnpsr

#44 Buzzbomb » 2011-06-22 16:37

Thanks for the article on the Nevis Geothermal plant. I heard about this project 3 years ago and wondered what was happening.
I'm afraid you are quite right; Antigua & Barbuda stagnates and rehashes the same old issues over and over again, when a simple and clear development policy could have helped us move ahead (or at least keep pace) years ago.
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re: Smart one?

#43 KMT » 2011-06-22 15:34

It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear to be a jacka$$ than to open your mouth and remove all doubts!!!

Oh that applies to Baldwin as well.......how much more of our bloody birth rights are these jacka$$ planning to sell off, what will my grand children have to look forward to?
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construction of a geothermal Plant in nevis

#42 fnpsr » 2011-06-22 15:29

Tenman and others, I would invite you to access this link to see progress in your backyard.

It appears that while Antigua fights with itself, other people are making progress.

Here is the link: http://www.nevispages.com/news.php?id=9644802F-350E-EE1D-170C-4DEE8901FDDE
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@ DIG IT

#41 naiomi » 2011-06-22 15:19

I WILL COME TO ANTIGUA AND JOIN YOU. GOD WILL NOT BE MAD AT US HE UNDERSTANDS.
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@ Dig It

#40 Skyewill » 2011-06-22 15:17

You and me a struggle to support the PM but I can tell you Sandals don't care about those vendors it's all about the money and I believe that our government have already promised them the land and yes perplexed is correct they don't think we know what is going on. The problem they have is right in front of you....THE COMPUTER
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@ ONLY IN ANTIGUA

#39 naiomi » 2011-06-22 15:10

WHY DON'T YOU GO WITH HIM TO THE OTHER CARIBBEAN ISLAND. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS NOT A SANDALS IN BARBADOS BECAUSE THE BEACHES BELONG TO THE PEOPLE AND BAJAN DOESN'T TOLERATE THE NONSENSE. THEY ARE VERY PATRIOTIC UNLIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU
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@ Young Professor

#38 Skyewill » 2011-06-22 15:09

Boss, I am so sorry you feel that way but I totally understand. I would love to give him the benifit of answering to your accusations. I look at customs and the same old way they do things and I say When will we have real changes. Yes, I would have to agree with you that not much have change in the past 15 years or even more. and in too many cases we have deteriated.
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@ SMARTONE

#37 naiomi » 2011-06-22 15:04

YOU HAVE JUST **ED ME OFF. WHY DON'T YOU GO WASH U DUTTY KIN. YOU ARE AN EMBA**MENT TO ANTIGUA. THINKING ABOUT IT YOU COULDN'T BE AN ANTIGUAN.
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@ Perplexed

#36 Skyewill » 2011-06-22 15:02

I did not forget and it bothers me. what I wished the PM would do is to come out with a statement on the Public Policy on that issue so we can put these things to rest and move on to solving other issues. I will never forget the racism and discrimination I experienced. My foreparents bleed and died for this and we must never take that for granted. I did not forget. I am glad the vendors will get help and stay. it will be good for them and the resort both. On the question of Public access. I say strenghten the laws and set public policy our beaches belongs to the people of Antigua and Barbuda. Mr. Spencer have said so himself. he needs to state his current position.
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John French II

#35 Skyewill » 2011-06-22 14:51

I'm with you and I agree with your analysis of the situation. When I was in Africa I saw how the Monzungu stole the wealth and the very essence of the people. We are very blessed to have a place like Antigua to call our own. We must preserve our culture and our way of life for future generations. Those who we believed where our champions sold us out once again for 30 pieces of silver. I will not allow the Monzungu to fool me . While i do like Sandals and have visited Beaches and do believe they are of good value, I don't believe they should be the major player. All inclusives limit the experience and the economic impact. My fear is that because of the situation we are in we will compromise our values
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Re: Spencer Ends Silence on Long Bay

#34 woods » 2011-06-22 14:17

PLM is now silent.... :-*
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@ John french

#33 Skyewill » 2011-06-22 13:58

You are 100 on that. However, I have my way of dealing with the rackets. I ignor or beat them their choice
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@Perplexed

#32 Skyewill » 2011-06-22 13:53

I am for 100% access by our people. Step 1 the vendors. Step 2 full access of the beach. No conpromise
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Reaons for Probing

#31 Dr. Isaac Newton » 2011-06-22 13:50

Perhaps in a tactful effort to avoid a possible shameful conclusion of poor judgment, the PM’s broke his timely silence. But Spencer‘s speech neither unleashed all the facts nor deleted every fiction. There simply isn’t enough evidence to avoid widespread belief of Spencer’s disloyalty to the vendors and breach lovers, to be convinced that the PM had their diverse interests at heart.

As a politician with the most power to protect, Spencer cannot merely be allowed to drop this important issue with so many unanswered questions and dark suspicion hovering over his leadership. I hope the media will continue to investigate the whole truth surrounding these abominably grave allegations.

Most importantly, I hope this is a teaching moment for the PM as he attempts to attract local and international investors.
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@Tenman

#30 Dig It » 2011-06-22 13:36

Tenman, you are right, you have posted this link before. Thanks for doing it again! Obviously, this is a wrong course of action taken by management at Sandals! They have no respect for the people, so they think they are above law and order because they are Sandals! The beachgoers should have torn down those makeshifts that denied them access to the beach! Imagine what the Sandals Group would do at Long Bay? The samething or worst! Let me be very clear with my fellow bloggers the day anyone block my access to Long Bay or any beach in this country, is the very day I will lose my religion! Not even Commissioner Browne will stop me!
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Smart One

#29 John French II » 2011-06-22 12:13

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Be careful for what you Wish. Even though I believe that you are being facetious and cynical, This is music to the Ears of Members of the First Estate, Second Estate, Colonial and Euro Privateers. Your solution for "Pickey Head People" in this Nation is Frightening. May I ask you to read the first Ten Books of the OLD Testament to gain an understanding of why the Israelites wandered in the Dessert for Forty Years. FYI, I have seen this practice in the Caribbean and have been told of its damaging effects to the Pysche of the Natives. Heaven Help The Nation of Antigua & Barbuda - Redonda?
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doing it again

#28 tenman » 2011-06-22 11:44

Though I have posted this link before, let me remind readers of http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/tourism/hotels/8530-sandals-fence-fuels-fury.html, a 08 MARCH 2010, article by Caribarena, which speaks of Sandals Antigua blocking access to the beach.

"Beachgoers in the **enson Bay area have recorded their disgust with the management at Sandals' decision to erect a makeshift fence which blocks a regular throughway onto the beach...The management at the Sandals Grande Resort and Spa had flatly refused to allow access to the beach via the property.

Tourists who spoke to Caribarena.com noted that they were disappointed with the resort’s actions, especially in light of the high tides. They said because of management’s refusal to allow them to pass, they were forced to tread through the rough waters."

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Fry's Beach would be much better

#27 Smart One » 2011-06-22 11:30

Why not suggetst to Bucth that Frys Beach has lots more land and lots more Beach. We relocate Dennis and when we have labour day ralley we can then go to Long Bay instead. It's only once a year anyway. Later on we can the same with Fort James. Why would Antiguans want to have a beach anyway to go picknick. It better to employement. FDI. If we want to go to a beach we will just pay for a day pass in the hotel. That way we can mingle legally with the guest.
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@Venom

#26 Perplexed » 2011-06-22 11:06

You are so right, this is not about party or politics, this is about antiguan rights and anyone who thinks its about anything else that our rights, surely do not have a clue because they are either deaf, dumb or just plain ole stu...PID. I still maintain that this 365 beaches thing is the best gimmick we have ever been sold as truth.
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RE: Spencer Ends Silence on Long Bay

#25 Perplexed » 2011-06-22 10:55

@Only in Antigua - you seem to suffer from the same illness as the PM and Mr. Lovell..... Antiguans have no issue with the hotel being upgraded let me type this slowly...... we...have.....a .....problem... . with....the Beaches model... that will...prevent. ....us.....from having... unfettered access to.....long bay.

@skyewill - From your previous posts I know you are a wise man but I think you have either forgotten or not know that while the law says we have access to all the beaches, there are many beaches in Antigua where the hotels makes it very very very very difficult for locals to easily access. So for you to say that access is not a problem, its the law, tells me that you have forgotten that for years politicans and their cash cow investors have found ways to prevent us unfettered access to what is ours. I will not stop asking, protesting, and yes complaining until I have a guarantee that the Beaches Brand will alter their business model to ensure that they do not breach our laws regarding access to our beach.
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VeNoM

#24 tenman » 2011-06-22 10:54

VeNoM well said. This party thing has become like a drug that too many are addicted to

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RE: Spencer Ends Silence on Long Bay

#23 VeNoM » 2011-06-22 10:44

In recent decades, the main issue, surrounding such developments has, unforfunately, become "access to the beach" & nothing else. As a result, all our major hotel developments have taken up the land, immediately where the sand ends; the trees, shade & g**, the very things "we" need to have a picnic, all gone. Access to the beach is one thing but what of the other things? "We" cant, possibly, enjoy the beach/a picnic, on a beach, where there's no access to the trees/shade! But, sadly, this has become the norm & while "we" fight over which party is right or wrong to reduce/sell-out "our" full enjoyment of the beaches & because we continue to fight, instead of insisting that true "full access" is maintained, more of what we need to enjoy the beaches goes to developers. If "we"-the owners of the land-continue to focus more on which party is giving it away & less on the real issues, soon all we'll be left with is 365 accesses to sand & water-no trees, no shade!
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In summary...

#22 wada » 2011-06-22 10:43

1. The VENDORS need a place to ply their trade
2. WE, the people, need access to OUR beach
3. The COUNTRY needs investment, the UPP have been accused of not
4. Butch Stuart wants to expand the property into a BEACHES resort

Did I miss anything?
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@Perplexed

#21 Dig It » 2011-06-22 10:41

Perplexed, I feel your sentiment! This is nothing to keep quiet about! Only those who feels it know it. And, bloggers like the Chief of Staff will continue to defend the PM, and will go to ends of the world to do so! I advise you to leave them in the bushes! Like a cub, they are still searching for their mother in the wilderness! Don't give up the fight!
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RE: Spencer Ends Silence on Long Bay

#20 VeNoM » 2011-06-22 10:30

We're going around in circles here-we dont learn from our mistakes! The ALP was all too willing to "give away" the entire mangrove & hundreds of acres, of agricultural lands, in Old Road; to Carlise Bay. Similarly, they willingly gave away lime skin bay, now hermatage bay. Antiguans, like myself, are now left with "access to the beach" & NOTHING ELSE as, the trees, under which "we" would unpack our goods & shelter from the sun, are now part & parcel of the hotel's land. We are, therefore, forced to picnic in the sand & tan all day, as the g**ed area & trees are off limits. I cam, plainly, remember Molwyn saying " the cost of that project (5mil) outweights all other negative effects." This is typical of all other beaches, on which hotels have been built. Now the UPP-who had years to watch the ALP give away the beaches, appears to be doing the same. We do not learn from our mistakes & the familiar "back & forth" of party supporters continue. Supporters to "red", now, celebrate & their party's opposition, to the project but celebrated the very same actions as being right, while they were the Govt. Supporters of "blue", now, do the exact opposite.We do not learn from our mistakes!
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PM-lost his soul

#19 Dig It » 2011-06-22 10:27

John French, you are so right "Capital has no permanent friends, Allies, States, Only Permanent Interests!" The PM has sold his soul to the underworld! This is the same PM who led various protests against the ALP in matters involving the peoples plight when he was in the oppositon! Boy, look how the times has changed! Someone is feeding the PM too much tainted blue meat that has now given him memory loss! King Obsti said "they go run us off the beach." Well, it looks like Long Bay will be denying access to us, and chase us away!
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Please no more jobs!

#18 Only in Antigua » 2011-06-22 10:18

We do not want any more jobs in Antigua. We like sitting under the tree and beating on the drum all day. Mr Stewart please take your $100 million to one of the other islands where the people want work. And by the way could you please take that nasty Sandals Resourt with you as well. They are terrible with all that work they require. They keep all those people at the air port on their feet way to long. Those poor taxi drivers have to interupt their naps to drive the nasty tourists all the way to **enson Bay. This nasty development will mean more Antiguans will have to wake up and go to work. What a discrace!
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Skyewill

#17 John French II » 2011-06-22 10:05

Skye, The Sandals & Beaches Brand do not have the Strategic and Value Proposition for which you are yearning. Sandals & Beaches are being positioned and have achieved the pinnacle of Luxurious Tourism. This has no room for local sensitivities. There is no interest in comming into contact and interacting with Native customs and Peoples save on the Compound. Unfortunately, this attraction of High End Luxury Tourism has been a strategy which Blues and Reds long have practiced. The sad fact is that this has never been communicated to "Pickey Head People" but privately encouraged and in past bombasts when touting how strong our Tourism product was. This is the road that all inclusives lead to. The Blues and Reds all go for the BIG FDI SCORE. The Red Leader's Mantra. Why do we not encourage the Branded Affordable Hotel Chains known to all would-be Guests? That High End Tourism is the Strategy which fits the Strategy & Value Proposition of Sandals & Beaches to its Guests and Privateer. Keep Hope Alive! KeepThe Faith!
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Next topic

#16 Lapre » 2011-06-22 10:04

Just a few strange observations;

No comment can be made on the Mullany case until its over. Is this the norm or something special about this case?

The daily coverage this case is getting, we could not get this for the MBS cases.
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The rights of the people wil prevail

#15 pedro » 2011-06-22 09:52

Just listen to our so called Prime Minister....... ...“We have discussed with the Sandals Group, the people behind the planned upgrading and expansion of the present hotel into a Beaches brand resort, that they should ensure that the livelihood of the vendors must be protected, and they have agreed,” the PM explained in a recent interview.

Now you tell me who is the Leader, in whose hands the responsibilty rest? Take us to the cleaners Mr. Butch if you can. Fortunately the people of Wilikies and Antigua and Bartbuda have other plans.


Read more: http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/tourism/hotels/97727-spencer-ends-silence-on-long-bay.html#ixzz1Q0pRo6nI
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What's left?

#14 dadlison » 2011-06-22 09:29

It always saddens me that someone who happens to be born in the nation of Antigua has access to only 108 sq miles of this great planet's land, that they can call their own. Not because they are somehow inferior, but because they happened to be born here. By comparison, someone born in Canada has access to 3,854,085 sq miles of this planet's land, not because they did something special, they were just lucky. That being said, why are we giving away the little land that we do have? When my child is born I want them to have access to all 108 sq miles, not 100. This could be the last straw for this government if they are not careful.
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Problem confirmed?

#13 Buzzbomb » 2011-06-22 09:01

By avoiding the topic of unobstructed public access and going on the offensive by saying concerned citizens have a "narrow political agenda" suggests there is going to be a problem here.
Oh sure they may be able to stick the vendors in a corner somewhere and and vendors may gain access through security with their ID cards, but what about the general public's use of this beach? From what I know about Beaches, unfettered public access goes against their business model. Methinks there is a big problem brewing with the PM mincing words and I predict a huge backlash if drawings are not made public and all stakeholders concerns addressed before sod is turned.
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Baldwin! REALLY?!!

#12 Have Mercy » 2011-06-22 08:28

“There are people with narrow political agendas who are behind the protests taking place at Long Bay,”

I have heard Lovell as well speak on this issue and you are left in complete shock and awe in the very same way as Spencer's statement, trying to figure out if these were the same very vocal and radical people protesting that hotel in Old Road.

What a ting when the shoes is on the other foot. But Mr. Spencer and Harold Lie-Well need to tell the people once and for all what is going to become of our access to this beach.
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Not convincing

#11 Dig It » 2011-06-22 07:55

The PM has failed to acknowledge that the vast amount of land the hotel has to expand the multi-million dollar project without interfering with the public's access to Long Bay. This is not only about the vendors. And, who knows if the new facility will accommodate the vendors probably? Are they going to put them in a some small crowded corner and let the vendors fight with each other for survival? Mr. PM you really need to be more convincing here that the Sandals Group has the interests of the vendors wholeheartedly! This is people livelihood here you are talking about!
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Better

#10 Skyewill » 2011-06-22 07:46

This is good. The vendors are in place we hope. I truly believe any investment must include the people. When people come to a different country they must expect to comingle with the native folks. Access to the beach is gauranteed by law.
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RE: Spencer Ends Silence on Long Bay

#9 Fed Up » 2011-06-22 07:39

blah blah blah blah
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The Silence Of the Wolves

#8 John French II » 2011-06-22 07:27

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Any Cub Scout can "Dib! Dib! Dib! Dab! Dab! Dab!" What a bunch of Colonial Garbage to subject juvenile boys to? "But while Spencer addressed the issue of the vendors, he failed to deal with the rights of the general public to continue to enjoy Long Bay beach in the manner they have been able to for generations." That the Vendors will be provided with new digs is being contemplated by the Colonial Privateer. They will be located on property outside the boundaries of the Compound where They and the Guests can come and go as they chose. The Public Enjoyment? **enson Bay Informs. Let us Dib! Dib! Dib! Dab! Dab! Dab! as grown Folk. "Pickey Head People" Follow the Money & Practices of a Modern and Resurgent Moody-Stuart. http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ny-supreme-court-appellate-division/1568069.html What's up with this Irish Privateer Connection - Airlines, Banking, Telecommunicati ons? Focus. FDI - Why is this the Modus Vivendi and Operandi of both Blues & Reds? Have we not learned from History. Capital has no permanent Friends, Allies, States, Only Permanent Interests. May Heaven Help the Nation of Antigua & Barbuda - Redonda?
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Cares about Long Bay as he does about Gray-Green

#7 Young Professor » 2011-06-22 06:59

If Spencer dont even care about his people in Gray-Green how could he care about the people of Antigua and Barbuda? After almost 10years he is going to leave Gray-Green as he found it, the poorest community in Antigua. This is the kind of narrow political agenda this man has had. He only used these faithful poor people to rise to power and then dumped them. What a loser!
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I'm upset

#6 Perplexed » 2011-06-22 06:37

The more I think about this project and the way in which it is being done I get more upset. Some singers are suggesting that we keep quiet until the full plans are revealed but given this government track record that could be a very dangerous thing to do. Why are they so unwilling to publish the plans, why are they so unwilling to call a town hall meeting to address all stakeholders concerns and interests. I want to know if this new project will see more Antiguans in management positions or are we only good to be chamber maids, bartenders, and servers. I know an unemployed young man with a family with qualifications in hotel management, specifically purchasing management. I know another unemployed family man with qualifications in hotel management. When I speak of qualifications I speak of long work history in these positions. So I want to know will they be eligible for the management positions or will you be granting work permits for these jobs without them being advertised in local papers for locals to have an opportunity to apply and be given first preference.
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RE: Spencer Ends Silence on Long Bay

#5 Cool Ruler » 2011-06-22 06:32

A question to comrade Barnes. Who did the interview and was the question about continued access in the manner the public is accustomed too put to him and he side stepped it and did not answer? Just curious.
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This is what scares me with these folks

#4 Perplexed » 2011-06-22 06:28

This is what scares me with these folks, their inability to understand the current issues facing the people or their lack of respect by sideswiping the real issues. I find it strange Mr. Spencer is only addressing the plight of the vendors when the problem runs much deeper than the vendors. Why is he so unwilling to address the issue of local access, is this because they have already decided to give our beach away and pretend we are stupid enough not to notice what is going on. Mr. Spencer your deafening silence on the matter makes me nervous.
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RE: Spencer Ends Silence on Long Bay

#3 upp » 2011-06-22 05:56

upp full a ** ,get out now
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RE: Spencer Ends Silence on Long Bay

#2 been there done that » 2011-06-22 05:18

a "Beaches" resort caters to paranoid American parents and would require access control, security and surveilance that Antigua has never seen before
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RE: Spencer Ends Silence on Long Bay

#1 seriously? » 2011-06-22 04:56

What more does Antigua have left to sell?
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