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Dealers Ask Govt For Help

Dealers Ask Govt For HelpSeveral proposals intended to spark vehicle sales in Antigua & Barbuda are before the government for its consideration after representatives from the four major dealerships met with Minister of Finance Harold Lovell last week.

An executive at one dealership told Caribarena.com, “With the level of losses that the industry is experiencing, you have to understand that all the dealerships are operating as charities, as they have decided that despite the losses, they are not going to lay off staff, at least not yet.”

An example of the situation facing the dealers becomes quite clear with even a cursory glance at the available statistics.

The ABST took effect in January 2007.

In 2006, total new car sales stood at 2,356. In 2007 that figure fell to 2,134. In 2008 there was a further decline to 1,941. In 2009, the decline was sharper, down to 1,129.

For the first 10 months of 2010, only 525 new cars have been sold.


According to Paul Ryan of Antigua Motors, the problems facing the dealers should concern the government and members of the society.

“We have been told by government officials that the revenues they collect from new car sales represent a sizeable portion of the overall revenues, and as sales have declined, so too have been the revenues that the government has collected,” he explained.

The dealers have submitted a set of proposals to help improve their situation.

The following are the subjects/talking points discussed between the government and the dealers:

•    Bond Surety/Payment for Bonded Vehicles.


Dealers want the government to remove or lower Bond Surety, and replace it with Proof of Insurance for Bonded Vehicles, as surety ties up their cash flow. They also want an agreement that all sales from Bonds be paid monthly to Customs Department by the 5th of the following month, and that any vehicles in bond after 12 months must be paid for. Used Cars should not be Bonded. Also, they want to reintroduce direct delivery at the port when vehicles arrive, to avoid damage at the port when stored there for dealers.

•    Environment Levy/Luxury Tax


Dealers want to increase the cc rating for the luxury tax of 7 percent from the current 2.5L to 3.5L . They noted that it was stated before that the luxury tax would be removed.

•    Duty Free Waivers


It is generally accepted that consumers buy cars more readily when they have duty free concessions. In the past, it was considered a norm for many consumers. However, it is the dealers’ view that instead of discretionary waivers, the government should move to allow waivers across the board for duty free concession on new car sales. Alternatively, the government should consider making this available to lower income buyers for vehicles under 2000 cc. Used cars will not be allowed concessions.

The government’s revenue will increase by collecting the ABST, RRC, and levies.



•    ABST on used Car Sales:

Dealers want no ABST on the sale of used vehicles.

•    USED CAR IMPORTS

It is strongly believed that imports of used cars continue to degrade new car sales and also government’s revenue. Used car imports also slow the sales of dealers’ used trade ins, as well as bank repos, which in turn cause banks to reduce financing of new cars. Suggestion: A ban on used cars (Pickup trucks and heavy duty equipment will not be included in this ban.)

In addition, they want the government to allow returning residents to purchase new cars under similar concessions as if they imported their own cars, however with a waiver of the RRC and allow the ABST to be paid.

•    GOVERNMENT SALES AND SERVICE

The dealers want a more equal distribution of future government purchases, if any. The government should also insist that vehicles are serviced where they are purchased to ensure longevity and to utilize warranties on vehicles under normal use to cut government’s costs on repairs for at least three years.

•    DIESEL FUEL (LOW SULPHUR)


There are a few dealers who cannot import diesel vehicles due to the poor quality of the diesel fuel imported into Antigua. Many diesel vehicles today require a low sulfur diesel which WIOC will not import. This needs to be addressed soonest.

Ryan said the Ministry of Finance took all the suggestions on board and that a follow-up meeting is likely to take place soon.

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Influence

#22 Interested Observer » 2011-04-17 10:32

Having read this article one wonders if ALL the Car Dealers agree-or is it just ONE influential Dealer putting forward his own opinions for his own Dealership gain? The one point of " Luxury tax" is so obviously biased - this tax is there for a reason!
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#21 Thinking » 2011-03-04 13:24

Let's see. A dealer has 50 cars in his lot at 50K apiece for a total cost of $2.5M. If he borrows from our local banks at 12% then his interest cost alone is 300K per year or 25K per month. Add 25K in staff, 25K in rent or loan interest for his building, 15K in utilities and other expenses he needs to sell enough cars to make 90K in profits just to break-even. Guess how many cars he has to sell to make a profit????

Wha t makes it worse is that no one in our present Govt has even run a cool-aid stand profitably, yet they are running an entire economy the way most the people on this panel think......and are running it straight to the ground!!!!!
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stop being selfish

#20 concerned » 2011-01-16 21:36

Why do business men think the way they do? The minute things get ruff, they ask the consumer to make the adjustments and they are never willing to give up anything. If the profits were a particular way when things were good in this country, why should these deals try to keep the margin the same way it was in the good times at a time when everyone else must make sacrifices? That kind of attitude is why the world is the way it is today! Man want everything for himself, it's called selfishness. An we always have a good argument to support our selfish ways. Every single adjustment we make must affect the little man. Why?
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#19 Annie » 2011-01-01 01:01

Good for them dealers, me want the car and dem rotten!
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time change

#18 piky head » 2010-12-09 23:41

i went into two dealers last year to buy a car, the sales agent didn't even look on me, so i took my business to a resonable small business man. went back to one of the dealer to get some parts, the were customer service was out of this world.......... ..lol.
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used cars

#17 piky head » 2010-12-09 23:34

decrease your profit margin you will see results
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#16 TRUE » 2010-11-22 14:12

It is clear that you guys want to wipe out the small used-car dealership.
Just stick it out or be creative.
The small used- car dealers are having it much worst.
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525 new cars a year should be enough

#15 Observer overseas » 2010-11-16 08:23

"For the first 10 months of 2010, only 525 new cars have been sold". Really? How many new cars need to be sold? Undoubtedly, an efficient transportation network is an important requirement for development, but for a small developing country like Antigua is an unchecked growth in private vehicles the best way to achieve that? Notwithstanding all the other pressures and distractions of governing, the hard task is to prioritize developmental goals and to make tough decisions about where scarce resources should be allocated. The real question should be, do we need cars or do we need transportation? Since resources are limited, what will households/busi nesses need to give up in order to buy more vehicles?
The unchecked growth in vehicle penetration has economy-wide cost implications not just for actual vehicle importation but fuel importation (even with the petro-caribe "drive now pay later scheme"), road network growth the maintenance, vehicle disposal costs and environmental costs to name a few.
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PUBLIC BRIBES

#14 OO7 » 2010-11-16 03:17

REMEMBER THOSE PB VEHICLES(PUBLIC BRIDE) BEFORE THE 1999 GENERAL ELECTION, PEOPLE WERE BUYING DUTY-FREE VEHICLES AT DUTY PAID PRICES. WHERE THE MONEY GONE ? THAT'S THE BILLION DOLLAR QUESTION. SINCE THE SAVINGS WAS NO PASSED ON TO THE BUYERS. WHO BENEFITED?
LET HIM WHO HAVE EYES....SEE. LET HIM WHO HAVE EAR...LISTEN.
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#13 steadyj » 2010-11-16 03:17

Seems to me that the car dealers are an oligopoly, and it would not surprise if there is some kind of collusion going here. Either of which is not good for the consumer. In the article the writer did not name the source for the sales figures that he cited. I wonder if Everton Barnes is still salesman at Harney. It so, he did not disclose that in the article. I respect him as Journalist, but I am just wondering.
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#12 Disgusted » 2010-11-16 02:20

All these car dealers have already made a kill out of Antigua,they make too much profit on the Vehicles, the Govt has always charged too much taxes which drove the cost up, If that was not enough this smart Govt decided to put on some more taxes, just like everything else, they policies are shutiing down the economy.
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have to agree

#11 tenman » 2010-11-16 00:41

These dealers need to wake up. I have argued against the APUA monopoly why would I advocate for a car dealer monopoly like situation. They suggest a ban on imported used cars. The next thing we will hear is they will push government to force persons to take vehicles over than 5 years old off the road. As stated by some yesterday, we need a proper transportation system. I will agree with the dealers that taxes charged on vehicles are ridiculously high.


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Cry me a River Car Dealers!!!! Part 2

#10 Objectivity » 2010-11-15 23:11

By the way who is supplying transportation and housing for the IMF personnel here because I have seen persons who appear to be IMF officials driving around in GV plated vehicles. Knowing this government they also probably are providing housing and a stipend. It's like going to the bank to take out a personal loan and using the money to maintain the lifestyle of the loans officer. The decisions of these people placed to lead this country boggles the mind. :o
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Cry me a River Car Dealers!!!! Part 1

#9 Objectivity » 2010-11-15 23:09

These greedy dealers need to help the economy by stop selling the many new luxury and other new vehicles to the government every year. By refusing to sell the government these cars they would force Lievell to enact policies for persons in the public service from the Ministers to their cronies to go out and purchase their own vehicles rather than relying on the public purse to supply a new vehicle at their whim and fancy.

How many of you same car dealers had or still have government contracts for road works, cutting g** at the road side and much more. Why don't you refrain from hurting the small man's ability to earn before you try to take more from him by suggesting that Lievell impose stricter measures on the importation of used vehicles.
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Too Much Greed,.. to be considered a CHARITY!!

#8 Let the Chinese Open a Car Dealership » 2010-11-15 22:59

Car dealers are anything but charities, infact, I'm repulsed by such a statement from Mr. Ryan. Antigua Motors employees are some of the WORST treated and PAID among all car dealers.
Additi onally, the suggestions from the dealers are not in the best interest of customers - just their **om line. Everyone, including the Managers of Car dealership is upset APUA & LIAT has a monopoly,... the bus drivers don't like that one Bus Driver has the monopoly on the College route,... etc., so why then Must Car Dealers want a monopoly on the importation of used vehicles?? We can't have our cake, and eat it too. I don't mind dealers trying to work with government to lower the cost of vehicles, but don't try to disguise greed on their part as a genuine interest for their customers. Any consideration has been given to lowering your mark-up on vehicles from 20 - 25% Mr. Ryan, to something in the vicinity of 7 - 12%? If no, why not??
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Know your market

#7 Forward Thinker » 2010-11-15 22:27

i think the dealers need to take a better look into the times, and realize that ppl can't afford these big SUV's and 100k+ vehicles that they keep bringing in. Why not look into smaller more compact vehicles that middle class ppl can afford?? why not take a second look into what the market can afford and restratagize your product line?!?! is either you want to try sell 1-3 100k+ valued vehicles a month, or 5-10 50k or less valued vehicles a month. the government can help by reducing the rediculous taxes they have on new/used vehicles at the port and i'm sure a few other area's can be looked at on their part.
but the dealers need to take a second look into what they trying to sell ppl and start to bring in some cheaper cars.
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We are so selfish and demanding

#6 my way of helping » 2010-11-15 22:18

The dealers statements sound and is so selfish it is all about them. they are acting as charities, do you know how long they existed in Antigua and Barbuda? multiply their new car sale by minimum $60,000 (it is probably more) and see what you get?

It is time now that they do away with making 100% profit and make a sacrifice too. Do not demand we buy cars home only, make the prices more attractive so we can choose to buy vehicles at home.
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Lazy Salesman

#5 Private Eye » 2010-11-15 22:17

Horror,,,,,, These garages have been selling cars for years at over inflated prices as much as $10,000 on a single unit above the rrp. Their sales men are so lazy that you have to beg them to get off their ** and do the transaction. They cant be bothered to open on Saturdays either... Their demands are absolute nonsense. We the customer will have our say especially to the main three garages. The monopoly will stop now The banks whom are linked with the dealerships may think they can influence government but you are wrong again we the people shall have their say.
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@ Skyewill

#4 Morris » 2010-11-15 22:17

“With the level of losses that the industry is experiencing, you have to understand that all the dealerships are operating as charities, as they have decided that despite the losses, they are not going to lay off staff, at least not yet.” I agree with you Skyewill. Charities my behind. There comes a time when an individual have to discard the leech that has been sucking the life blood out of him/her, and that time is now for the car industry in Antigua. That is their business if they want to keep the current staff levels, but it should not be at the expense of the citizens.

"Dealers want to increase the cc rating for the luxury tax of 7 percent from the current 2.5L to 3.5L." Most of these engines are standard in economy class vehicles and car companies do not categorize them as luxury engines, so why is our government imposing a luxury tax on these engine sizes? Just another way to continue to suck the living daylights out of the citizens. Did someone say we do not have a lot of taxes in ANU? FYI, they are very well disguised.
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Car Dealers

#3 A Stitch in Time » 2010-11-15 22:04

Skyewill: My thoughts exactly.

Were these dealers complaining when business was booming and their pockets were getting fatter by the minute? Oh, no. They had money pouring into their bank accounts and there was no complaining.
What makes car dealers any different to other businesses on the island? Every business owner is ketching dey **. Does that mean that they could approach government with their own proposal to increase their revenue? After all, they have staff too.
If government allows these dealers to have their way, then all other businesses who are experiencing loss of sales should be allowed the same privileges as the dealers. Perhaps, this is the time for the car salesmen to really step up to the plate and sell. These salesmen are an absolute joke. Their idea of selling is for a customer to come in, point at a particular car and say this is what I want. So, the salesman just writes up an invoice, shakes the customer’s hand and says thanks and hands over the keys.
Governmen t should also look into Customs. It is alleged that most are paid under the table. Perhaps, this is where most of the dealers’ profits go.
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#2 Skyewill » 2010-11-15 21:33

A bunch of bolona, When it was in thier best interest they wanted it all. Now those millioniares are bawling. Back then it was Free Enterprise and Capitalism. Now it's Welfare for the rich. What we need is a plan to help poor people not the other way around. Just like Japan market Antigua, Hadeed and Harney need to market elsewhere. You can not expect a small island to keep buying new cars every year, forever. There will become a time when the market will be satuated. That time is now. Why not bring back slavery? Back then you could get people to work for free and increase your profits. I knew what your suggestion would be even before you open your mouth...MADNESS . "IT'S ALL ABOUT ME" mentallity is unsustainable, time for new creative industries. You got the money Start a factory for GREEN CARS and sell them back to those countries that have treaties with us to sell us everything and buy nothing. Give them something to purchase from Antigua & Barbuda. Instead of Begging and we know you don;t need money so STOP IT. You been eating much too long, So you won't make a billion this year, be creative.
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Crazy Dealers

#1 Kronic » 2010-11-15 21:30

These dealers are crasy set of people. "A ban on used vehicles"? They want to widen the monopoly. Get the heck out of here dealers........ you cant get that.........Ya ll done make ya money and want to stiffle off the poor people lil mo.........jump ship or die..........go and come again.......... ...out de place man!!!!!!!!
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