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Discriminating Against Ourselves

Discriminating Against OurselvesAs the year 2013 opens citizens and residents of our tiny nation are locked in an intense debate over what it means to able to call one’s self a True National of Antigua & Barbuda.

This is by no means a new debate. It has spanned some three decades – dating from the late seventies – when the government of the day adopted a tacit policy of opening the national door wide to practically unlimited immigration from countries both near and far. Whatever one may think about the origins of the policy, the facts are that the “open door” attitude had become so ingrained by 2004 that the new administration that took power in that year continued the by now traditional open door policy, practically without skipping a beat.



The reasons behind this “opening” of Antigua & Barbuda are manifold, and are steeped in the political realities of the time. The present day consequence of that longstanding policy is that this country has become the most cosmopolitan in the Caribbean Region and certainly among the most cosmopolitan in the world. More than any of its former British Empire – now British Commonwealth – neighbors, Antigua & Barbuda is undergoing a self-imposed process of domination by incoming elements. Whatever national culture might have existed, if one had been permitted to flourish in a supportive environment, is being submerged by a rising wave of “invading” influences.

That this is so is glaringly obvious to even the most casual observer. One of the truisms of the evolutionary process is that invasive species, entering a new territory and bringing with them superior adaptive abilities, are capable of out-competing indigenous species to the extent of possibly supplanting them within what was formerly their exclusive environment. This process is all the more virulent when invasive species find allies within that new environment, local species with whom they can develop (for instance) a symbiotic relationship.

Part of the ongoing socio-political tragedy of Antigua & Barbuda is that this pernicious symbiosis is essentially what has occurred. To begin with, it is natural for immigrants coming into a new environment to be more generally energetic and enterprising than locals, as well as more tolerant of risk. Immigrants are also prone to compromise, and are willing to accept living conditions and terms of employment that locals would tend to decline. A major symbiosis, inimical to the welfare of citizens, therefore immediately sprang up between local employers and flexible immigrant labour.

Even more devastating, however, was the symbiotic relationship that developed between immigrant voters and the local political directorate, who exploited helpful voting arrangements to recruit fresh supporters to replace locals, who were voting with their feet. One outcome of this divisive policy was a tendency of the political directorate to pander to non-national supporters, as a response to dwindling support among native-born voters. This process led eventually to the corrosive situation obtaining today, where a thunderhead of bitter resentment hangs over relations between non-nationals and nationals, who openly accuse immigrant voters of depriving the native-born of their control over the political process.

One significant result of this bitter carping is that “native” Antiguans and Barbudans focus virtually all their spleen on Commonwealth citizens migrating to our islands in search of a better life. It is rare, indeed, for native-born Antiguans and Barbudans to display any great degree of personal antagonism toward persons of non-Commonwealth origin entering their homeland.

Significantly, and with the active support of a political directorate desperate for inflows of foreign capital, individuals from outside the Commonwealth – from the United States, the European Union, the Middle East and China – have quietly occupied the commanding heights of the local economy, pushing the less enterprising native population to the sidelines.
And all this has occurred while that same native population has essentially closed its eyes to an ongoing process of re-colonization – preferring to expend its venom on poor immigrants from other Commonwealth Caribbean countries who have the misfortune to look very much like themselves.

In adopting this attitude native-born Antiguans and Barbudans are demonstrating clear evidence of their own self-hatred. They are not alone in suffering from this spiritual illness. This mental disease, a product of centuries of mental conditioning, is common to all Commonwealth Caribbean peoples, who are capable of blinding themselves to the activities of people of other racial groups while focusing “like a laser” on the actions of their Caribbean brothers and sisters.

A celebrated example of the abuses that can spring from this “self-discrimination” is now receiving due attention from the Caribbean Court of Justice.

Jamaican national Shanique Myrie alleges that in March 2011, after being allowed entry into Barbados for a one-month stay, she was taken by a female immigration officer to a bathroom where she was allegedly “finger raped”, abused with foul language, threatened and then denied entry.



The government of Barbados has been accused of violating its obligations under the Revised Treaty of Chaguaramas (the CARICOM Treaty) and a Caribbean Community (CARICOM) Heads of Government decision in 2007.  According to Myrie’s lawyers, denial of her right of entry was “unjustifiable, arbitrary and thus led to discrimination.”

The Jamaican government has joined itself to the case, arguing that it has substantial legal interests in the matter: any judgment rendered will establish a binding precedent for all CARICOM member states. The CCJ has supported this position.

The stage is set, therefore, for deliberations at the highest levels of our Caribbean justice system on a case that will put our fundamental Commonwealth Caribbean self-hatred on trial. It is most significant that the matter revolves around the behavior of the Barbados immigration authorities.

Barbados has, over the years, acquired a reputation for being the Commonwealth Caribbean country with the most hostile and chauvinistic attitude toward nationals of other Commonwealth Caribbean nations – members of the same CARICOM “family” that has supposedly been attempting to forge a single unified Caribbean nation since the late 1950s.
The sad truth is that Barbados is not alone in harboring a hostile and discriminatory attitude toward nationals of sister CARICOM territories. Natives of all the other “sister” countries display the same discriminatory attitude toward people who look like themselves – while smiling, bowing and scraping in best colonial style for anyone who looks like a member of a superior race or economic class.

In this, our new tourism mono-culture has taken over from and built upon our history of subservience – and the self-hatred that such subservience breeds. We will know that Commonwealth Caribbean peoples are coming of age when we begin to treat each other the same way we treat people who look different from us.
Until then, we seem set to continue discriminating against ourselves.

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@SlyThatGuy

#42 oversee » 2013-02-18 13:19

Of course I can see through his ploy, which is why I mentioned his nifty footwork. Note his latest tactic, namely, Quote:
"oversee to be clear, the peaceful time, the you wish us to return back to, was between 1950 - 1990? Please state a specific year range. Again, I ask to help in defining a range for an article I am thinking of writing"
. He sees what he wants to see however, I agree with you he is worthy of respect. I'm looking out for more diversionary manoeuvres from him.
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@ oversee

#41 SlyThatGuy » 2013-02-18 12:19

I hear what you're saying loudly and clearly - and by the way,your argument had backbone and commonsense - and I also can understand your frustration about his skirting the issue; however, I do not think that tenman failed to see your point. In my honest opinion, his questioning your point was just a ploy or tactic on his part to extract the precise information and details of such topic out of you to be used later in the article he is planning on writing. couldn't you figure it out from the hint he dropped,I did. But all in all,tenman is a cool dude and I have complete respect for him.
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SlyThatGuy- we are saying the same thing

#40 tenman » 2013-02-18 12:17

SlyThatGuy & Oversee I stated:
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Will not say those times crime wise were worse than now but to suggest they were peaceful times is to practice nostalgia.
SlyThatGuy in essence I am agreeing with you. My issue with Oversee is his suggestion that these were peaceful times we should long for. You see I recall as a child (age 10) in the early eighties, seeing my father, a teacher come home from protesting, battered and bruised because he was beaten up by the police for a peaceful protest. I recall the telephone death threats made to my mom and dad. I recall being fearful. SlythatGuy, Kong was what they called one of the trucks which was used to tear gas the people, who were protesting back then. McLean Emmanuel (Short Shirt) has a song entitled "where is Kong" in memory of those days. I don't look back and long for those times, though they had some good moments, because I know there are even better times ahead.

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@SlyThatGuy

#39 oversee » 2013-02-18 09:20

Your blog to 'tenman' (2013-02-18 02:24) sums up my argument precisely and is very well put. Don't you think 'tenman' knows perfectly well that the points made are in order but simply refuses to accept them? In my opinion he does but prefers to skirt around the edges with nifty footwork rather than acknowledge the obvious. :D
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@ tenman

#38 SlyThatGuy » 2013-02-18 02:24

I'm so sorry,tenman,bu t I have no recollection about Kong or the bomb scare in the 70's - not even the violence in the late 60's which involved the burning of a school. But,anyway,when I say Antigua was safe and peaceful during those early periods I didn't say it to mean we were crime free,it was just to point out the difference in crime between then and now. For instance,it wasn't risky back then to leave your home with doors and windows open and head off to work or to do some shopping in town.But today the odds that your home would be broken into is very high. More than 300 homes and cars will be burglarize this year alone. And speaking about rape,murder,and armed robbery,the number would be much lower from 1950 to 1980 than it would be from,let's say,2000 to 2013. There's no denying that violence has been and is still increasing.
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Tenman

#37 Antigua Bill » 2013-02-18 00:04

There is no doubt that the American immigration system need fixing. If a lay person try to navigate this system alone they will indeed get lost. It is not difficult to get Employment Authorization Document if you are in the status that makes you eligible for one.The cost is about $380.00. Tenman when you are dealing with almost any agency of the US government you need an attorney and that is the nature of things in this country. Don't treat them as do it yourself projects.
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SlyThatGuy

#36 tenman » 2013-02-18 00:02

SlyThatGuy, was planning to include that fact in the article. In addition perhaps include the stats for Saint Kitts and Saint Lucia with the latter having a low CARICOM immigrant population. Hey speaking of peaceful times you remember Kong? What about the bomb scares in the 70's? What about the violence in the late 60's which involved a school burning? How about the murders eg. the one where the body was found at Jabawak (Tim's wife)? How many unsolved murders do we have from those times: What about the lady who was killed near the US base ; what about the body found on old pahrum road. Will not say those times crime wise were worse than now but to suggest they were peaceful times is to practice nostalgia. Colin has an article which speaks to person's who suffer from this ailment (Low Earth Orbit - Back to the Future 13 November 2012) http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/opinions/opinion-pieces/colin-sampson/102210-low-earth-orbit-back-to-the-future.html


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@ oversee & tenman

#35 SlyThatGuy » 2013-02-17 22:53

I realize that the conversation between the two of you is somewhat salient,but I am going to jump in just to say this: The reason Antigua was a safe and peaceful place place during the period between 1950 to 1980(even though here and there we had a rape,murder,or robbery)is that there were no gangs and gang members as exist today,and there was no easy access to guns,too. That's the simple difference between that time and this.
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@ tenman

#34 Morris » 2013-02-17 22:20

Regarding your first response - the reason for the outflow of jobs from the US has nothing to do with immigration policy or lack of skilled labor, and everything to do with labor cost and tax avoidance which equates to higher profits (Apple and Nike are perfect examples). Imagine this, the US has more educational institutions that the rest of the world combined, and educate both citizens and foreigners. Though some may return to their native homes and receive some low paying jobs from US off-shore companies, the US citizens have stay right here and hope to find something commensurate with their level of education/degree.

Regarding your second response - we're on the same sheet of music, and you highlighted the point I was making earlier about the shortage of jobs. It is because of the shortage why there is such a long wait. If jobs were plentiful, there would probably be no wait at all.
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HOW It relates locally

#33 tenman » 2013-02-17 21:36

Morris, I had occasion to have a, highly skilled engineer, friend confide in me, that a major reason why he relocated from Antigua. He pointed out he grew tired of having to stand in line at least every year to get a work permit and time extensions. Part of the reason for this was because the government decided to do away with the temporary residency program which would have prevented this. It also affected non national spouses of Antiguan's. These spouses about every 6 months would have to line up an immigration for time (currently they have to schedule an appointment). If they were able to find work, they would have to apply for work permits which can carry exorbitant fees. This process continues for at least three years after which they can file for citizenship. The citizenship process takes over a year and during that time they still have to apply for time. How long do you think persons who have other professional options, outside Antigua, will put up with such treatment?
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Re:Morris

#32 tenman » 2013-02-17 21:01

Morris http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/blog/2013/01/us-immigration-policy-is-hurting-the.html

Morris though I won't disagree that a part of the ill feelings come about due to lack of jobs, let me suggest to you that a reason why jobs can be lost, is because of bad immigration policies. I have heard US CEO's argue that they are forced to send jobs overseas because of current US immigration policies. This policy sometimes prevents high skills persons from coming to the US:
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“Each year, foreign students graduate from U.S. universities, often with in-demand science and engineering degrees,” says Walter A. Ewing with the Immigration Policy Center. “Yet many are forced to return to their home countries rather than putting their newly acquired knowledge to work here.” This is a huge loss for the country, he says, because a recent report from the Information Technology Industry Council concluded that “every foreign-born student who graduates from a U.S. university with an advanced degree and stays to work in STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) has been shown to create on average of 2.62 jobs for American workers — often because they help lead in innovation, research, and development.”
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My take

#31 Morris » 2013-02-17 20:32

Very interesting and passionate exchanges. Everyone has some very valid points; however, everyone seem to be skirting the problem. The economy is very depressed and there just isn't enough jobs and infrastructure to accommodate the population surge. If the economy was not so depressed, it is possible that the current issues would not be so magnified. The situation we have now is that everyone (predominantly Antiguans & Barbudans) is fighting for their very survival in this dog-eat-dog economy. The C'bean countries (similar size and population or smaller, or whatever) that have lower unemployment figures tend to have lower crime rates. If jobs are not created to lift the people out of poverty things will only get worse. This phenomenon is not unique to ANU Americans in America, Europeans countries, and the Middle East think the very same way about foreigners when it comes to jobs and crimes.
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oversee

#30 tenman » 2013-02-17 19:13

oversee to be clear, the peaceful time, the you wish us to return back to, was between 1950 - 1990? Please state a specific year range. Again, I ask to help in defining a range for an article I am thinking of writing



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@tenman

#29 oversee » 2013-02-17 16:22

You cannot be serious. What was the crime rate in the 1950s to say 1980s, how many murders, rapes and such were committed, can you compare the level of crime then with now? I despair; let's agree to disagree, how's that?
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#28 tenman » 2013-02-17 15:58

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However, like you I am all for properly managed immigration.
oversee I made the same statement about not being for an open door policy since 2013-02-15 16:13, obviously I needed to put it in bold for you to see. I have also stated the same thing in comments to other articles on this issue. As far as Antigua being peaceful before some unstated time, can you please provide the timeline? I request this because I am thinking about writing an article on this same issue. oversee, I recall the complaints when they were not about Jamaicans and Guyanese. At the time they were about persons from the commonwealth of Dominica. At the time some Antiguan's would give the impression that Dominican's were illiterate and below us. I now see similar sentiments being expressed about the nations you now curse. I also find your attitude strange when you benefit from living in a country whose motto at one time was an open invitation for all to come.
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MY WAY OF HELPING - bitterness guiding you

#27 tenman » 2013-02-17 15:34

MY WAY OF HELPING, by we you must mean you? Clearly you cannot be speaking for me. Most of the islands in CARICOM have now embraced the CCJ as their final court.Many of our judges and lawyers in the region studied with some of the same privy counsel judges. The CCJ has been setup to make it financially independent in order to reduce the influence of politicians. Have you taken the time to study the CCJ? Your stance on this issue is probably colored by a personal experience you find unfair. I speak of the one which constantly sees you saying we should "bring back ASP Francis" (your father). Its obvious it still burns you, because you are constantly via comments suggesting the court's decision for a clear cut case, was unfair. The case saw your father not even submitting a statement or even providing testimony. For someone like you who advocates love and kindness, you holding onto bitterness makes you seem a hypocrite.
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@tenmam

#26 oversee » 2013-02-17 15:18

Since you did not dispute the fact that Antigua was more peaceful and tranquil then than it is today, you now have the opportunity to do so. Noise pollution, the spread of shanties and the negative attitude displayed by some of these immigrants towards born and bred Antiguans seem to not bother you one bit, no surprises there! SS down the drain or up the spout? Instant solution: increase the population with outsiders,(we Antiguans won't breed fast enough to suit you agenda) and hey, presto, SS problem solved. I won't go into the illiteracy part of your supposition for reasons best kept under wraps unless pushed too far so I'll let that pass. When did I suggest most crimes were committed by immigrants? I do note however the explosion in crime started about 15 or or so years ago; coincidence maybe. What facilities do you expect tourists to not use when they come ashore? Pray, enlighten me. I do agree with you when you say,"Oversee, I am not advocating a policy where anyone can come, simply persons who can contribute positively to our country"; common ground at last!
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RE: Discriminating Against Ourselves

#25 MY WAY OF HELPING » 2013-02-17 14:04

I do not care about colour, creed, sex, if a person or group is not ready, by have a plan, strategy and face the facts that they aren't ready and they have issues, then they are not ready to do what they want to do. Caricom is not ready, the courts of appeal is not ready. I would like to have a court of appeal in Caricom but are we ready, nope
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Oversee -crime

#24 tenman » 2013-02-17 00:51

Oversee you have made the mistake of trying to infer that our crime situation is being caused mostly by immigrants. The crime stats do not bare your suggestion out. Oversee, more residents would mean a bigger tax base to deal with the problems you identified, like lack of a proper sewage system in St. John's. Its strange that you argue against this base on our "limited" resources, yet I hear you say nothing about the over 700K yearly cruise ship visitors, who are utilizing those facilities for what some would argue are meager dollars considering the funds we have expended on things like port infrastructure.
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Oversee

#23 tenman » 2013-02-17 00:32

Oversee you stated:
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..and let's face it, we are now doomed, sunk beneath the groundswell of semi illiterates from the Western Caribbean and South America.
If you were to take the time, you will learn that Guyana ( 91.8%) and Jamaica (87.9%) have a higher literacy rate than we (85%) do, according to data gathered from the CIA world book (see https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2103.html)

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@tenman

#22 oversee » 2013-02-16 18:11

Please read carefully what I have written. Nowhere, I repeat, nowhere have I suggested that Antigua was ever a paradise with palatial mansions, those are your words or sentiments, not mine. What I have expressed and always will, is that Antigua was a once peaceful place where you could walk the streets by day or night with very little or no fear whatever; compare and contrast those days with today if you dare! Where in my blog did I ever say there was no poverty in Antigua when we all know poverty exists everywhere even in the most affluent of countries? In your attempt to discredit my statements you have made your imagination run amok with falsehoods. You mentioned the two felons Bullghani and Skillful. Compare those two with what we have nowadays along with the almost casual murders perpretrated so often today and tell me honestly which you think was the more tranquil period. We have a non existent (to be blunt) sewerage system and other ills and you want to encourage more immigrants from potentially wealthier parts to Antigua. You cannot be serious!
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Discrimination

#21 JD » 2013-02-16 17:08

Thanks for an insightful article, Mr Sampson - it has certainly caused a lot of comments and debate! I think that there is truth in how we might 'hate' those who seem similar to us, but we might not be able to admit this to ourselves as we realise how 'wrong' it seems. And perhaps the same goes with how we might show 'favour' for those of a more 'whiter' shade than us because of history/tourism and what we feel they can do to/for us, even through we also realise how 'wrong' this seems. No one commenting here is 'right' or 'wrong' but it's certainly important for us all to be aware of this as an issue and to 'correct' ourselves accordingly, to instead do what serves us best as individuals and as a nation. I would like to think that we can rise above any feelings of discrimination, racism, xenophobia and hatred of anything 'foreign' as we know better ourselves what it is like to be at the receiving end here, and so find a way of doing things differently, our way, and making a success of it as others watch and can only learn from, wouldn't that be something...
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oversee - missing eye

#20 tenman » 2013-02-16 15:20

oversee do you know the history of this country? I don't know how you can conclude say before 1980 or 1970 that Antigua was this paradise with palatial mansions.We have always had poverty. All one needs to do is read the poverty **sment done in 2007 to know that poverty is not simply a non national issue. I recall places like Fibrey. To this day we still have the night soil truck while there are islands in the region who can boast of not having such. As far as crime, I recall Bullghani the rapist scaring the daylight out of our women. I also recall arsonists and thieves like Skillful. The majority of crime in this country is perpetrated by born Antiguan's. One only needs to follow the news to know that. The magistrates themselves have lamented our problems with missing fathers. Oversee , I am not advocating a policy where anyone can come, simply persons who can contribute positively to our country

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@tenman

#19 oversee » 2013-02-16 12:54

You seem to have an obsession with further populating Antigua and Barbuda with these semi illiterates; why so? Because as you say, SS does not function properly because of the small size of the population! Now, I've heard it all and can't believe what I'm hearing. For all I know the SS wizard who dreamt up this nonsense might well be one of your favourite immigrants, though I can't be sure. How facetious can you get when you ask and I quote: "Outside of encouraging migrants to come here, is it your plan to breed more (you and all you can encourage) to solve the problem?". I'll tell you what we do not want: shanty towns, noise pollution, being sneered at in our own little patch by not-so-bright invaders who for all their talk of the oh-so wonderful places they came from simply refuse to up sticks and depart. Have a look at the lines for renewal/extensi on of work permits and you'll get the message. Why don't you suggest a mass movement of Haitians to for example, Guyana, a very large area with a relatively small population? You wouldn't and you know it.
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just a glimpse at (some) Barbadian sentiments

#18 tenman » 2013-02-15 22:06

Ms Scotland:
http://www.stabroeknews.com/2010/news/regional/01/11/barbados-immigration-policy-%E2%80%98stands%E2%80%99/

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Bajan Gal Linbux • 3 years ago − ...But Linbux....how do you expect us Bajans to maintain our high standards of living when we had an estimated 30 000 illegal Guyanese immigrants and probably another 50 000 others from the other regional territories living on the 166 sq miles that is Barbados? Impossible. Instead of talking about how many Bajans USED to live in Guyana, you and your countrymen should be talking about trying to get back Guyana to its old status of being one of the preferred Caribbean countries to live in.
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@ Colin

#17 Dessalines » 2013-02-15 22:00

And you sir do not know Jean Jacques as well as you think you do.

Thanks for corroborating my initial position about those who attack the messenger and ignoring the message entirely.
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Dessalines

#16 Colin » 2013-02-15 19:02

On this occasion I regret to advise that your initial position belies the spirit of your nom-de-plume.

You may wish to consider a change to W. Lynch.
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win at all cost memo was a fake

#15 tenman » 2013-02-15 16:27

The letter was fake. There is a tendency by certain UPP operatives to write letters where they falsify their identity. The current PR person for the UPP is known to be such a writer. This is how Douglas W. Payne describes the letter where the author pretended to be Ron Saunders:
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Lester and Sanders categorically denied that the memo was genuine. Lester called it a “total concoction” and said to this writer, “It came straight out of the Daily Observer stable. I think Selvyn Walter wrote it, or at least had a hand in it.”... But an examination of this purported memo in comparison with the 1996 Sanders memo revealed numerous inconsistencies in style and tone. The 1996 memo was deliberative and closely reasoned, but the new document was almost scattershot in structure and frequently descended into cliché, hyperbole, and rhetorical excess. Moreover, although the author does not directly state that he is Sanders, he goes far out of the way to identify himself as the author of the 1996 memo, even spelling out the title of that document, hardly necessary since Lester would already have known who the writer was.
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MS Scotland

#14 tenman » 2013-02-15 16:13

MS Scotland, there is no denying that government is a big part of the problem, but so also is our population size. I don't see how you could put the blame for the crime problem at the feet of immigrants. However, like you I am all for properly managed immigration. Before you use Barbados as an example let me tell you that Barbadian's (rightly or wrongly) also complain that their immigration system has not been managed properly. I am also willing to bet with you that Barbados has more illegal immigrants than Antigua.

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#13 VeNoM » 2013-02-15 15:38

As a result, foreigners from caribbean countries, have been made to become political pawns & are often seen as voting "the wrong way", depending on which side of the political divide one stands. & we all know that tempers tend to flare, between the colours, even among "born Antiguans", as we all appreciate the ramifications of the act of voting. Other foreigners, are however, not seen as "intefering inna arwe sud'n" as they may be fewer in number & as such are not so obvious in voting lines, less vocal, do not vote at all or are considered to be contributing more than they take & as such Antiguans are more at ease with them.
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direct tourism number

#12 tenman » 2013-02-15 15:30

The almost 30% (29%) direct number for tourism:
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It (International Business Times) cited, specifically, The Bahamas and Antigua & Barbuda, which gain approximately 30 percent of their GDP from tourism. Read more: http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/tourism/tourism-news/98931-further-backlash-predicted-from-us-economy.html#ixzz2KzuT1Wu4
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RE: Discriminating Against Ourselves

#11 VeNoM » 2013-02-15 15:14

Quite a good piece Colin, but i must stres**, & will support it with fact, that its the pitting of caribbean nationals (foreigners) against Antiguans, that has caused most of the antagonism. I reference a letter, published in the Daily Observer, in 2002; which was written by one of the contributors to Caribarena. That letter, captioned "win at all cost" was, according to the article, sent to the them PM. It suggested that the Govt of the day had lost much support among indigenous Antiguans & as such needed to find an alternative source of support/votes. It, further, recommended that: foreigners be brought in, given jobs, some Antiguans be "let go" to facilitate the latter & that by so doing, they foreigners would become beholden to the party & vote for it. I have often written of hearing former PM Bird say "you (foreigners) are here because of a man named VC Bird & myself & you owe us the vote."
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a owed debt

#10 tenman » 2013-02-15 14:50

The region owes its freedom from physical slavery to Haiti. Seems some have not received the news that the current CARICOM chairman is the president of Haiti. It was stated of the chairman:
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He said Haiti must accelerate its integration into Caricom and is committed to contributing to "Caricom's strengthening and to improve Haiti's integration during Haiti's tenure as Chairman of Caricom. Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Haiti-s-Martelly-begins-tenure-as-Caricom-chairman_13308634#ixzz2KzjQojfN
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We need sensible immigration not open doors

#9 Ms Scotland » 2013-02-15 14:43

The problem with SS is that the public sector is too large and the government can’t make its payments. At this point, only people with needed skills and education should be allowed in regardless of origin. Antigua has too many unskilled “natives” as it is. We can’t afford to shut-up. Name calling doesn’t bother me. We need a sensible immigration plan now. Like the Bajans, I want back my low crime prosperous country now.
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know the facts

#8 tenman » 2013-02-15 14:33

The often stated 60% tourism numbers are not direct numbers. They also include things like wages paid to both non nationals and nationals. If benefits from the multiplier effect: Persons working in the tourism industry spending on goods and services. Also remembered must be the ignored fact that direct numbers also include tourists from the CARICOM region (18%) while from the UK we get 28% and US 34% (all 2010 numbers).

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the hypocrisy baffles me

#7 Dessalines » 2013-02-15 14:09

We never hear of Jamaica's or the Dominican Republics treatment of Haitians earthquake refugees from these self righteous ones. Jamaica waited six weeks after the earthquake in Haiti to start repatriating those who fled on rickety boats for survival. The UN Human Rights agency reported that the DR officials who deported Haitians after the catastrophe sexually abused women and girls. Meanwhile back here in Antigua nationals cannot however demand that the DR squatters pay their own way. Oh no it's inhumane and the taxpayers must foot the bill.
However Barbados is maligned for deporting a 22 year old girl who came to a strange country to stay with a stranger for two weeks and who had a man who was a known human trafficker meet her at the airport. Strangely after the regional media uproar not a peep was heard from Myrie's Bajan friends in her support. This strange fact is never reported as it may portray Barbados in a positive light.
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@ Ms Scotland Patriot Son

#6 Dessalines » 2013-02-15 13:29

From what I gather, the reasoning is as long as the people who create strains on our brittle economy or create negative influences look like us (are black) and hail from the Caribbean (with the exception of Haiti btw) it's all right. Interestingly African Americans (along with Haitians) who look like us are treated with the same contempt by this ideology.
The people who contribute 60% of our GDP and 40% of direct investment are labelled as colonials and we who appreciate the patronage are labelled as subservient and bowers and scrapers and self loathing.
These ideologues are dangerous as they never have any solutions to offer and their main aim is to denigrate and belittle and they do so very well in beautifully written language.
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MS Scotland

#5 tenman » 2013-02-15 13:25

MS Scotland, since you used Barbados as an example, you do recognize that with a 274,540 population they are still a bit smaller (166 sq miles) than our nation with a population of about 86K persons? Did you not pay attention when the chairman of the SS board pointed out that a part of Antigua's problems with SS, lies with our small population size? Don't you see a problem in the fact that in the past 10 years, we have lost some 4.7% (4128) of our people due to immigration to US alone? Outside of encouraging migrants to come here, is it your plan to breed more (you and all you can encourage) to solve the problem?
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@Patriot Son & Ms Scotland

#4 oversee » 2013-02-15 12:52

Allow me to make a suggestion: be careful when you speak the truth, it can hurt. You see, we Antiguans have lost our identity and culture (yes, we did have one but never appreciated it) and let's face it, we are now doomed, sunk beneath the groundswell of semi illiterates from the Western Caribbean and South America. We must keep our mouths shut, say nothing, bite our lips and go to sleep; that's if our ears are not blasted off by the invaders quiet dance hall music. Try the beach to escape the cacaphony and you will have a week long headache with more of the same. Remember when it was quiet and peaceful here? Those days are gone forever. Shhh; mustn't upset our Caribbean brothers and sisters, you see!
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Forest for the trees

#3 Ms Scotland » 2013-02-15 10:19

Antigua is not being overrun by blond hair blue eyed Swedes, so it would be nonsensical for “native” Antiguans to carp about Nordic invaders. Black and middle eastern non-nationals have changed the cultural integrity of the country, and the “native” is 100% right to speak out about the negative impact this foreign influence is having on the country. Barbados is not the jewel of the Caribbean by accident, and “native” Antiguans could learn a lot about saving their country from the Bajans.
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Them and Us

#2 Patriot Son » 2013-02-15 10:12

What you have said, Colin, is true. I wish to add here that some Commonwealth immigrants from larger countries display a disdain for the locals, their behaviour is at times condescending and arrogant . Most times, their level of education is very low. All they know is that they are from a bigger country, so the locals are less than they are. It is interesting to note that while the immigrants of a whiter shade are doing it to us, they are not in our faces and they are obeying the laws, in other words, behaving themselves. Who then do you think would get the most local attention when it comes to being resentful?
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RE: Discriminating Against Ourselves

#1 tenman » 2013-02-15 09:18

Colin, so sad but true. A big part of the problem is its so easy for persons to hold onto wrong information on the cost vs benefits of CARICOM immigrants, to justify their self hate. One such is this idea that they overwhelm our public school system when the truth is their children, according to the 2012 education Digest, constitute only 8.7% percent of our public primary schools and 23.6% of our public secondary schools. The same persons would then tell you that non nationals make up over 50% of residents in this country. We spend millions to build facilities for cruise tourists but fail to recognize that non national resident from the region, contribute more revenue to our GDP than the 100 million yearly we get from cruise lines

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