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**Daughter of the Soil** » 2013-05-02 09:08

Litter Wardens who give on the spot fines is a suggestion + educating the people to take responsibility for beautifying their island. Take your rubbish hope with you or put it in a bin! Keep Antigua and Barbuda Beautiful!

**serremp2** » 2013-02-24 11:42

If you read my post again you will see that I do not bring the author down for not doing his bit. In fact I think he has a good reputation for it. I merely pointed out that the article is confusing, directionless and covers every oft-repeated problem with the identity of Antiguans, pride, politicising nationalism etc. when the point is ask people and teach youngsters to bin their garbage!

Do you seriously think that other countries don’t have their own litter problems? Of course they do. Most just attempt to solve it with more direction, without whining about national pride, history etc.
It’s a good point but not about a historical rally. It’s about using the bin. Simple.

**r u 4 real?** » 2013-02-24 01:43

we even had the AUA students and faculty organise a day to go down to jabbawalk beach to clean up proud antiguan garbage a week or so ago.. antiguan pride or antiguan shame? :cry:

**r u 4 real?** » 2013-02-24 01:37

serremp2

gmail.com ... pointing your finger at the author? really? .... from what i have heard he regularly invites people to join him to go by boat to as many beaches as they can to clean up other peoples trash. i have seen photos online with them coming back with upwards of 40 full large trash bags full of proud antiguan garbage. you should try something like that instead of trying to drag people down... typical attitude. and to add to his point, almost every building site i see around here has lots of garbage blowing around it from the workmen who, like the rest of the proud antiguan litter bugs, dont give a second thought about tossing their garbage on the ground - wether its a kfc box, styrofoam lunch container or plastic wrap from some building materials etc.

**PiptheSkip** » 2013-02-23 16:46

I know people are naturally lazy - it is really beyond the budget of the nation to provide more bins for trash at beaches and other public venues, and then empty them regularly - the average family going to the beach for a picnic or a beach barbeque is far more likely to clean up after themselves if there is somewhere close by to dispose of the stuff they've finished with - easier than packing it up & taking it home - educating people to act responsibly will only work if its made easy for them.

**serremp2@gmail.com** » 2013-02-23 11:34

Never mind 'proud antiguans' 'selling passports' jingoism and such like, just get a carbage can by the bus stop/hotel/what ever and empty it from time to time!

All this voluminous rant, politicing etc., when all these people need is some basic manners/respect . Teach the kids at the bus stop to use the bins! Doh!

By the way, there is a building site belonging to the author of this piece which is overloaded with litter and rubbish which blows all along the surrounding land.

**pfkar** » 2013-02-23 11:29

My question is, how can one be proud of where they were "bharn"? If your pride comes from something you had no control over, as opposed to accomplishments accrued through the diligent application of your talents and triumph over adversity, how will you ever be driven to accomplish anything? It seems rather silly for a person to claim that they are "proud" that they were born with 10 fingers, or proud because of the color of their skin, or proud of where they were born. Pride seems to be claimed in response to generations of being made to feel shame for how or where you were born, but there is a chasm between shame and pride known as "humble perseverance". Taking pride in something you did not have a hand in creating and, as Mr. Fuller points out, are actively destroying - that carries with it no benefit, but simply enables sloth. The country is worth fighting for, and its reclamation is long over due.

**oversee** » 2013-02-23 11:07

What the heck does Columbus and slave owners and the Queen have to do with born filthy people? Instead of making silly excuses for their dirty habits you should berate them for making the country an eyesore or better still encourage them to do better by keeping the country clean. It's doubtful whether there will be any improvement in the habits of those responsible will be seen in the near future while they have people like you with ready-made excuses on tap to wheel out the standard drivel. A beautiful island is engulfed in litter and all you have to offer is the standard excuse why some do as they do. Since we are a copycat people, why not copy the clean and tidy ways of some other countries? That's too much to ask, being clean and tidy is hard work.

**Antiguan Abroad** » 2013-02-22 14:45

With all respect to the writer, national pride does not come from being tidy and not being a litterbug. As Tenman accurately points out, it is fueled by the sense of belonging and closeness that comes from living in a small society where everyone knows practically everything (or think they do) about each other. Not to mention.....the island is a natural paradise, and that fact alone would engender pride among the folks lucky enough to live there. If this article is intended to encourage people not to litter, leave the national pride aspect out of it. I've been to many places around the world, large and small, where people are proud of their environment...r egardless of whether it looks like a slum to others. The best way to get people to pick up after themselves and not litter is to impose hefty fines and ensure it is enforced. That alone will bring in revenue to fund the program, and over time will curb the litter problem. Try it......that’s one of the reasons Park Avenue looks so nice.

I » 2013-02-22 13:05

The real problem here is not even the garbage on the roads but I truly think it has to do with the evident lawlessness in Antigua in general. The laws seem never to be enforced. People just don't care. I have driven for miles behind people who litter just to tell them about it and they really do not give a ......
Antigua is such a frustrating place to live sometimes. The average joe doesn't care enough to do what is right and the authorities are no better in my view. Maybe we'll wakeup one of these days.

**tenman** » 2013-02-22 12:30

It comes from too many (not all) seeing national pride as meaning they are owed something. The anger brought about by seeing themselves as victim's is why persons then set out to damage what they claim they love. A large segment tend to be xenophobic.

I love Antigua because like other small islands it allows me the opportunity to know my neighbor business. You can nenver feel a stranger for long (will always meet someone you know). Unlike the bigger islands, its easier to rub shoulders with members of parliament. Due to there hardly being any distance restrictions, its easier to keep in contact with friends who live on island. Its a place where i feel deeply rooted because even if i forget, I am reminded by even strangers of my ancestors contribution

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**Marty Freeman** » 2013-02-22 11:21

please give it a rest. Stanford not bringing yuh money back.

**Fed Up** » 2013-02-22 11:20

Yuh bang de nail on de head !!

JD » 2013-02-22 10:41

This article is spot on - Mr Fuller has perhaps bravely stated what many feel but won't say out loud even if it's the truth. We have a lot to feel proud of here in A&B but pride for pride's sake just doesn't make sense. We just fool ourselves by being blind to the rubbish around, literally and metaphorically. There are those who just won't 'get it' and no doubt some of the comments we'll be seeing here will be testament to that. We may be an island, or two or three, but we can't survive alone like this - we need others to bring business, opportunities, finance etc to the island so we need to work on what we have, improve what needs to be - fine to be proud about the good stuff we have but arrogance and denial is often our downfall here. We need to face the truth and use our brains.

**GoodJobBob** » 2013-02-22 09:52

I understand your confusion,but a small vocabulary adjustment may clear things up. Have Word auto-replace "Pride" with "Arrogance" and "Proud" with "Arrogant", and see if that helps.

**Fed Up** » 2013-02-22 09:43

you are one of the people the article is about, a disgraceful antiguan

**R. Berry** » 2013-02-22 09:39

I believe Antiguans has confused pride of country with one's personal acheivements (not caring how these "achievements" may have been acquired).

Antiguan proud of their big ride, whilst ignoring the "raggedy" streets we drive on. Antiguan proud of their Big House, whlist ignoring rust coloured water and daily electricity drop outs.

Antiguan proud of their dress, whilst shopping in one the dirtest cities in the western hemisphere.

Antiguan got plenty non-nationals to blame for the many flaws of the citizenary, so it's not their conceern, whilst ignoring its their country. This is called the excuse syndrome.

Read about any crime etc... and the first thing an Antiguan say "he from Dominca, Jamaica etc..ignoring that what was done, negatively impact Antigua the country and its entire population.

Open your minds Antiguans, the country must come first and we must all do our, legal, ethical and christian part(s).

**Irie sistren** » 2013-02-22 09:17

Eli, I have to compliment you for writing this article. I say the same thing everyday. On Sunday my family went to a beach to spend the day and the amount of garbage was astonishing, even my 3 year old said "why the nasty people leave garbage all over Mommy"? I told her because they don't care or they don't know any better. What we have here is selective pride. We can chose to be proud of what we want to be when it suits our purpose, and we can chose to ignore it when its not important. And unfortunately for most, garbage is just not important.

**Hmmm** » 2013-02-22 08:42

Tek up you own garbage you nincompoop. You sound like one of those nasty pigs who throws everything out your car window. You probably are one of those that say "ah here me come from".

**Over Taxed** » 2013-02-22 06:47

Hey Eli, most of these proud Antiguans will be quick to tell you "me pay tax, dem haffu clean um up!" Just you stand and watch the beach goers come out of the water, take a plastic bottle OUT Of THEIR CAR, fill it and wash the sand from their feet. What happens next is truly astonishing. They quite simply leave THEIR plastic bottle on the ground, close the car door and drive off as if their garbage was as natural a part of the beach as the sand off their feet. I guess that why the official motto is "The beach is only the beginning".

**ran** » 2013-02-22 06:45

so teck up the rubbish if you see ummm ,we not selling ar we passport,if you want passport go america and by fi dem own

**skyewill** » 2013-02-22 04:07

This article is it in a nut shell. Proud of what? Proud of raggadey schools, Ragady politicians, ragady manners, ragady St. Johns, Once again it becomes important to look at how and what we are teaching our children in school. They are in direct conflict with themselves. Columbus discovered the West Indies and freed us from Africa, and God save the slave owner queen and her heirs that will inherit our people. So why so much garbage or why so much crime or why politicians so lie, why such poor service and work ethic? Garbage in, Garbage out.

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