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Are We Making a Big Mistake

Torsten-Stenzel wikipedia photoMany of us will remember the offshore gambling money flowing in Antigua in the late 90s and after the millennium. It was like nothing we had seen since independence. One of my friends who worked for one of the biggest online casinos here said, "Everyone was spending like cowboys in a tavern."

In fact, most of my friends were working in that industry during that time. If you knew how to use a computer and happened to be searching for work, you were hired and were getting paid way more than your peers were in the hotels.

Four of my close friends started working for an online casino in the mid-90s. They were the only employees working in the converted house in Blue Waters, and within a few years they were writing marketing cheques to the tune of millions to companies like MSN and Yahoo.



They had moved out of that little house office and were taking up an entire commercial building. They were working with dozens of others and the company was still growing. The island was buzzing and everyone was seeing some of the pie. The trickle-down was more of a waterfall than a trickle.

I remember attending an offshore sports betting company’ New Year’s party which they allegedly spent $100,000 on. None of us will ever know how much money was passing through Antigua's banks, but we were the biggest players in a multi-billion dollar industry. There were regular 25 year olds making way more money than both of their parents combined, and many of them never imagined it would end.

You know what they say about all good things though.

Things really took a turn when Jay Cohen, the founder of one of our biggest sports books, was arrested as he arrived in the USA in July 2004. He felt that the USA had no right to be preventing people in the USA from betting offshore in Antigua. The US had recently used the Federal Wire Act to stop US citizens from placing bets abroad over phone or internet. He was the first person to be charged by the USA for violating the Act.

The US did many other things in an effort to stop their citizens from betting offshore, including going after the credit card companies and other payment providers. It became extremely difficult to do business, and many casinos and sports books either folded or pulled out of Antigua. The economic trickle down really became a trickle, and in 2003, Antigua and Barbuda took on the USA at the World Trade Organization, saying that the US policy on online gambling violated WTO rules. In a David vs Goliath ruling, the WTO agreed with Antigua, thus beginning a decade of negotiations and arbitration.

In 2007, the WTO essentially gave Antigua the right to sell US copyrighted material to the tune of about US $20 M a year in a twisted form of sanctions. It was a fraction of what Antigua and Barbuda was looking for, and it was an extremely controversial judgement which wasn't going to be a quick fix. Either way, Antigua would more than likely be getting the dirty end of the stick. It makes me think about all those WTO protests, to be honest.

Anyway, Jay Cohen seemed optimistic when I spoke to him about it. He had done his jail time and was back in Antigua taking a back seat to it all, but following the discussion nonetheless. A few years ago, he told me that he felt that the minute Antigua started selling US copyrighted material, companies like Microsoft would be lobbying for a change in offshore gaming policy. He felt that offshore gambling's biggest allies would be the American companies who were having their material legally sold (pirated) by Antigua.

Antigua and Barbuda didn't jump at the green light to be modern day privateers and instead continued to negotiate, hoping that the USA would relax its stance. Nothing changed, and on Monday, Antigua applied to the WTO to start imposing the recommended sanctions. The World Trade Organization agreed, and Antigua has said that it would be reasonable and responsible in the way that it sells US intellectual property.

Like most people, I am eager to find out which property is going to be reasonably sold without the owner getting paid. You can imagine how unreasonable the property owner will think it is.

This weekend, I spoke with one of Antigua's most respected music producers about the WTO judgement. Torsten Stenzel is a German award-winning musician, songwriter, composer, and producer who now resides and runs his internationally famous studio here in Antigua. Apart from local and regional artists like Jah Cure, Buju Banton, Drastic, Jus Bus, Tian Winter, Claudette Peters, Logiq, Kenni Blessin, Itchy Feet, Asha, Shya, and Promise, Stenzel has worked with huge international acts and his list of associates and collaborators is huge. Since 2007, he has attracted many music industry icons here to Antigua to work in his studio, and while his Antiguan company is getting stronger and stronger, he is worried that all of his work will be jeopardized by what our government does next.

Stenzel said, "Selling music and movies without paying the musicians and artists is unfair, and will cause worldwide problems and not just problems with the US. Since illegal downloading went through the roof, the music industry is having a hard time, and artists get little or no revenue from selling music. Some talents live like homeless people, yet have a million views on their Youtube music video. People always think the pop stars are rich, but the ones who are making money are way less than 1%. Government needs to protect their creative people and not just sell them out with no pay."

I reminded him that this would only apply to US copyrighted material and that Antigua has been backed into a corner by the USA. He disagreed. "I think that once a torrent site is up and running, it will be difficult to make sure that only US copyrighted material is being sold,” he said. “Before you know it, there will be every kind of music from all over the world being sold on it. I agree that the US has no right to destroy the local online gambling industry, but if you legalize downloading copyrighted material, you are hurting the artists that have nothing to do with the problem, and not hurting the US government. It is the wrong signal and will affect people who have nothing to do with the original problem.”



He added, “I have had big industry names calling me recently asking me about what the BBC is saying about Antigua setting up a pirate site. I don't want this! In March, we fly in Sony Music executives from Japan, and the news that Antigua supports music piracy isn't going to be positive for our relationship and future music business coming to Antigua from Japan."

I put it to Stenzel that it may be foreseeable that the music industry would end up being indirect allies in Washington, and that artists could possibly join with Antigua in the call for a change on US gambling policy. He didn't seem as optimistic as Jay Cohen though, and for a moment I had a vision of Madonna, Beyonce, and Bruce Springsteen doing a TV commercial calling for a boycott of Antigua as a tourism destination until they stopped stealing their music. Who knows what will happen when the downloads start. The USA has made it clear that it would consider any downloads to be theft and piracy. It's something to think about, and there can be no doubt the this story is far from being finished.

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The Activist

#25 tenman » 2013-02-06 08:41

The Activist, this very tool (ignoring IP) in the hands of Ecuador and Brazil worked well. It was on the eve of implementing the sanctions in 2010, that the US settled the matter with Brazil. The US agreed and is now paying Brazil some 147 million usd annually until the US gets its Farm Bill in conformity to its WTO agreement. The US supported Ecuador in its banana war against the EU. Try and remember that US companies (Dole, Chikita etc) had vested interest in that fight. Don't you find it hypocritical that the US was in support of Ecuador using IP sanctions against the EU but claims it unfair for Antigua to use the same tool? This is a tool, the WTO feels, and has seen proved, that has worked in David vs Goliath type situations.
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Who really will suffer?

#24 The Activist » 2013-02-06 05:15

Selling copyright on the open market will create a huge negative backlash for Antigua in sanctioning,sue ing,negative press etc. Anitgua will be worst off adapting this action than would be wise. This will create an entirely new bulleye on Antigua, with defendants of the copyright (USA and the artists) under their umbrella with darts piercing our Twin Island. A new look at other options would be wise.
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Capitalize on PR now!

#23 The truth » 2013-02-05 18:39

Does anyone comprehend the massive amount of positive PR this David and Goliath story has. The free press is everywhere, on line, in the papers, everywhere, you can NOT buy that press, I am hearing from all around the world and no one says anything bad about ANU. WTO ruled this and we have still negotiated...an d negotiated....a nd right is on our side, unfortunately our PR machine is not good/pro active, but luckily international press likes the underdog , if press releases are managed right we will be winners through popular consensus and the USA will relent.
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The Bluff

#22 skyewill » 2013-01-30 20:01

The country will not immediately resort to ignoring US copyright claims.
Here is the skinny: There are those who believe that their brain bigger than everybody else. There is no way in God's green earth they can be wrong on anything. Most men get lost in themselves. However, some do come to enlightenment and seize the day and the only way to do that is to be upward and right. What are you fighting for? Are you fighting for the good of the people or the country? These are really good questions. What are our needs? Threats are for kids. I cannot fathom not being able to go in there and come back with all sort of goodies, seriously. I take $16 million, state of the art hospital equipment, radar for the airport, some training for my teachers, couple of smart classroom at the college. Welcome them down, show them the island, carry them down by Tony and have Ester roast 2 lobster for them, then take them down to Millers for an evening of calypso and some funji and fish…That’s how you do it…..Bouy!

Before you know it you got $222 Million. Just put it back in your pants and do some real negotiating.
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RE: Are We Making a Big Mistake

#21 eli » 2013-01-30 19:44

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Excellent article - for the first time the story has been told in a way the average Antiguan can understand!
Thanks Makeda, that is exactly what I was trying to do. Glad to see you thought it worked.
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most evil country on planet earth

#20 afraid » 2013-01-30 19:34

America does not care about any other country, when will our government understand that.
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@ Jimmy - Very Interesting Link

#19 John French II » 2013-01-30 18:37

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock! Thanks. The Medium Is The Massage!
The Language suggests a losing Hand "legal piracy site". The Comment by Good Job Bob onthat link should no more cause anyone to question his concerns and wishes for the Nation Of Antigua & Barbuda. Many, Many, Many, Men Wish Death Pon Us!
Pray for those Skilled in Risk Management. These SIDS will continue to be baffled by the fates and broken by War. Never forget the Windwards' Banana Trade Loss. They have sucked it up and moved on. Has Jamaica Recovered Since Manley?
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We are subject to external shocks! Sir Dwight Venner Governor of the ECCB.
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Antigua Won The Battle, but Lost The War! The Professor
Have Mercy Pon Us!
Go Well! Much Respect!
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Check this!

#18 Jimmy » 2013-01-30 17:02

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/29/3927768/antigua-us-sanctions-copyright-trademark-intellectual-property-piracy-site-rumor
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Eternal & Perpetual Interests!

#17 John French II » 2013-01-30 16:33

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock! eli, keep on keeping on! It has been said that human beings endure to maximze their terminal wealth.
At the end of every five years comes the silly season, when the freewomen/men and "Bewildered & Bemused Electorate" of Antigua & Barbuda may please themselves with the the choice of their representatives to form GoAB. That Happy or Sorry Day depending on your thoughts of the outcomes is Fast Approaching.
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It ought to be deeply impressed on the minds of all who have voices in the national deliberation, that no man can deserve a seat in parliament, who is not a patriot. No other man will protect our rights: no other man can merit our confidence. Johnson.
eli, Go Well! Much Respect!
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@ Antiguan Abroad & Skyewil

#16 Professor » 2013-01-30 16:24

Maybe it is the caffeine, but I am just disturbed about the lack of proper analysis that preceeds our government's actions. As you correctly observed AB, the settlement has USA written all over it. Clearly, the idea was to award a settlement that would hurt Antigua more if it enforced it than if it did not.

Even though Goliath violated the GATTS and proportedly killed the gaming industry in Antgua, the selement offer was a non-offer. Insurance companies in the US do the same thing everyday. If you are well-represente d you get to stage two, but if your lawyer is second-rate, as was the case with Antigua, you get nothing for your pains.

Antigua got played at the WTO like a grand piano ... Now in the classic style of a fool, the government is basically saying that it does not care how much it is going to hurt the suffering nation, it is hell-bent on pursuing the empty settlement.

After they start huhrting American "Artists" and we start loosing 21 million per year in tourism revenue I am going to hear that it was America's fault. I have to say that the are not 100% off track in terms of the appropriate remedy.
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@ Professor welcome

#15 skyewill » 2013-01-30 16:19

We bluffing. there is not way we that crazy. impossible!
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RE: Are We Making a Big Mistake

#14 Antiguan Abroad » 2013-01-30 15:05

Professor - I see you are in fighting form again....have you had your morning coffee yet?

You make a compelling argument...the WTO award is indeed difficult to enforce and I doubt the WTO's intent is to sanction "piracy" of intellectual property rights. That would simply not make sense. But whatever strategy it takes to get a reasonable and substantial remedy from the US for what was deemed by the WTO a trade violation, is in my eyes, fair game.
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Why did the Gaming Companies leave?

#13 Professor » 2013-01-30 14:20

Why did the Companies leave?

7. The results suffered by Antigua's gaming industry is more because of Antigua’s lack of counter-measure s than the consequence of US actions in protecting Las Vegas.

8. Realize that the vast majority of the Internet Gambling companies that once operated in Antigua did not die, they are still opeating, just not in Antigua. They moved to Costa Rica and other jurisdictions where it is cheaper to do business.

9. The UPP knucklehads are getting ready to compound eneptidude with trecherous ignorance ... Glossy Gold Dunce caps for the whole Party!

10. setting up a website that will damage US recording and performance artists will damage Antigua's tourism more than anything else.

Who is advising these guys?
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@Kenred

#12 skyewill » 2013-01-30 14:18

They bluffing, they can not be that stupid. I have heard and seen some dumb thinking and doing. ut There is no way this can happen and we not suffer for it. My problem is the game playing at tax payers expense. What so bad is they are arrogant and this may not affect those with good income for now but it will catch up. These people are all ego and if they allow their ego to do something as stupid when there is so much that can be done they will plundge ANU back to 1817. What freaks me out is we had a 3.5 BILLION DOLLAR industry in Antigua an we have nothing to show. not then or now. How could this be? Some went into politicians pocket and the rest went overseas. They though the natives a few pennies and tax evaded and did the wash day and night. think its a bluff and I think the US thinks its a bluff also.
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Antigua Won the Battle, but Lost the War

#11 Professor » 2013-01-30 14:11

We Antiguans have a big problem with calling a spade a spade. Let us just deal with the facts of this matter and leave the “rum-shop talk” aside.

1. There was a thriving Internet gaming industry in Antigua in the late 80’s and 90’s.

2. Casino owners in Las Vegas were losing money to off-shore internet gaming companies and lobbied the US Government to protect their interests.

3. US Government answered the call and passed the Federal Wire Act that made US cross-border gambling illegal.

4. As usual Antigua was unprepared and caught with its pants down picking up coins: Antigua was unable to find a banking (payment) solution that could easily allow Americans to continue to play, and most of the gaming companies left.

5. Antigua cried foul to the WTO and won a momentous David vs. Goliath battle against the US, but Antigua’s inept negotiators was given a basket to carry water (a settlement that was very difficult to enforce).

6. Antigua won the battle, but lost the war, because its once thriving online gambling industry is practically dead.
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RE: Are We Making a Big Mistake

#10 Antiguan Abroad » 2013-01-30 13:31

Intellectual property refers to more than just the music industry. It refers to just about any invention that flows from the “intellect” of an individual or group, including trademarks, copyright, etc. It is important to note that the Antiguan statement to the WTO never mentioned that they would engage in "music piracy" or any other piracy for that matter. That allegation came from the US side, and it was vociferously disputed by the Antiguans. The Antiguan diplomat also noted that they would strictly abide by WTO rules and would apprise that body and the US of their plan in advance of implementing it, so that it can be approved by the WTO. It’s interesting that there are some, including the Opposition Leader Brown, who are so quick to distance themselves from the current strategy being adopted by the Antiguan negotiators - which I believe is a smart strategy. They are simply following the rules laid out by the WTO, rules that the US no doubt helped craft, and which they would avail themselves of if necessary. In fact, it seems it is the "threat" of any type of intellectual property infringement that has brought the US to the negotiation table again.
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There is no Copyright

#9 North Coast » 2013-01-30 12:41

The US government are the people. There is no copywrite in this case as its suspended and therefore not illegal. Simple logic, killing someone on the street is a haneous crime, but killing in the name of your country is celebrated and honoured. so perpective needs to be put on this plain and simple. The USA would not like antigua to use this measure as it will open the door for future countries (small states) to use the same measures. Its been 5+ years since the ruling, they obviously have no interest in coming to a resolution. They do not care about our tiny island state because we have no might economically or militarily, but we do have might politically with the WTO case and that will get their attention if they realize we will in fact pursue this case. Antigua has a moral obligation on the world state to not sell this case short so they future generations around the world might benefit from this landmark case.
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comments on www.slashdot.org

#8 wada » 2013-01-30 09:49

I cam across this link on a techie site:

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/01/29/0020218/wto-approves-suspension-of-us-copyright-in-antigua

when I first saw the number of comments, I thought "oops", but after reading many, there was no indication f "burn Antigua to hell" so the US needs to watch this carefully. I do not like the idea of selling copyrighted material, I thought the WTO could have found a better solution. What we may need to do is speak to Beijing and get that elephant on our side...
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RE: Are We Making a Big Mistake

#7 GoodJobBob » 2013-01-30 09:22

The US should simply legalize internet gambling and let the market decide. Would you rater bet with an insured, regulated casino in the US, or in an Antiguan casino, "regulated" by the FSRC?
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RE: Are We Making a Big Mistake

#6 Porksouse » 2013-01-30 08:38

If the music industry has a problem with it, then they can pressure the US to settle with Antigua. This is the whole point of doing this.
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RE: Are We Making a Big Mistake

#5 Reality » 2013-01-30 08:17

That description of Antigua in the '90's reminded me of Little Italy in the late '70's when John Gotti was in control and regularly threw big parties in the neighborhood!
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Then What?

#4 Jimmy » 2013-01-30 07:26

The US artists need to understand that their Government reneged on a Trade Agreement! They should be singing songs against the their Government for how many families they have hurt in Antigua and Barbuda illegally!

A US President said "walk quietly and carry a big stick!" In this case the US is walking and swinging the big stick every which way!

At the same time I think the UPP Government should continue to negotiate with the USA - before resorting to piracy!
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RE: Are We Making a Big Mistake

#3 Dave » 2013-01-30 07:09

I just hope we can get some more Ben ladin
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RE: Are We Making a Big Mistake

#2 Makeda Mikael » 2013-01-30 06:04

Excellent article - for the first time the story has been told in a way the average Antiguan can understand! Even though I stand with the rules of the WTO and the rights of Antigua, two wrongs do not make a right! For the religious right in America, gambling issues are sinful, and to those globally conscious of intellectual property rights, piracy is theft! Antigua attracts many persons whose pockets will be robbed, some have homes here, this 'gangsta' style of retaliation is not in keeping with Antigua's high-end marketing profile!
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RE: Are We Making a Big Mistake

#1 Kenred » 2013-01-30 04:07

Selling music, movies and other copyrighted material without paying the owners of this copyright cannot be right and cannot be the answer to resolving out issues with the US relating to the WTO and online gaming. The owners of the copyrighted material we purport to sell have nothing to do with the WTO and gaming. They will be innocent victims. If you think that international music artists and movie makers will not line up and publicly condemn Antigua to the world for selling their copyrighted material without compensating them, then dream on. They will be on US and European tv every two seconds blasting Antigua for thievery and urging the general public to boycott Antigua tourism. We cannot win this one going down this road. Find another way.
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