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**ANTIGUAN WOMAN** » 2012-07-05 16:54

They did so much good between 2004-08,i guess that,s why they almost lost in 2009,matter of fact,its believed they did,had it not been for the word STOLEN.

**audrey taylor** » 2012-07-03 19:27

Dr BS and his cabinet are showing us by their disrespect and crudeness that they no longer want the job of Governing Antigua and Barbuda, they have accomplshed their misson of 2004 they served two terms got rich and fat , they got what they coveted of the Birds the ability to get rich at the expense of the people of Antigua and barbuda now they are spitting in our faces in the hope that we will wise up and fire them before they turn us into Haiti as promised with Dr. BS bidng the Antiguan Pa Pa Doc bloated face and belly and all.

**It Is Me** » 2012-07-02 21:18

I stopped reading this article after this statement from the writer ... "
they did much better in their first four years than the ALP ever did" ...

He is saying that Antiguas best times were between 2004-2008. And he expects me to read on pass that statement?

I guess all the schools , hotels, and institutions were built between 2004 - 2008 also!!!

**maco** » 2012-07-02 20:24

What more informtion do you need to know that WPP is a pile of rusty old iron?
1. them rusty
2. no manufacturer warranty
3. leaking of oil
4. them break down frequently
5. Some have been derated
6. Tchnology is ancient -cant convert to liquified natural gas
7. fuel conception too high
and many more.....

**Steadyj** » 2012-07-02 13:55

"Documentation beats conversation". PM produce documentation that the plant is new. An even easier solution would be to open up the facility to Press, and duly elected members of parliament. How are hard is this to? I willing to donate 10 hard hats, and hearing protection.

**SlyThatGuy** » 2012-07-01 22:21

You can say all you want, maco. However, I guarantee that if you knew for sure that those engines were old because of, as you put it in your previous post,overwhelmi ng evidence,you would have already come forward with it; You wouldn't be relying on the government to show documents as proof.Your request for evidence on top of the overwhelming evidence you claimed shows that there's still an element of doubt in what you believe.I may seem to have nerve to say I do not know whether the engines are old or new,but it's an honest admission. Thank you very much.

**Cool Ruler** » 2012-07-01 22:17

Everybody want to be writer these days. Some when they want their drivel to be more palatable would claim oh, I voted for the UPP. So what, despite some of the nonsense they write about dictatorship and democracy up to now you are still free to go back and vote for the discredited ALP.

**Anu** » 2012-07-01 21:40

Since everybody still debating about whether the engines old or new, let me just say this: "DE ENGINE AN DEM NO GOOD" (Dialect) because good engines whether old or new do not operate so. They need to get the rid of them, collect back the money and outsource proper new engines that can do the job. Amen!

**Slapping Hand** » 2012-07-01 19:54

may I suggest that contrary to your headline: "PM - REVEAL OR RESIGN" it may yet turn out to be "PM - REVEAL AND RESIGN"!

**maco** » 2012-07-01 18:54

SLYTHATGUY, I cant believe that you have the nerves to say thta we do not know if those engines are old or new after we have spent US$47M. IF we spent that amount of money to procure a power plant then we should have put measures in place to ensure that we got the engines we paid for. Our Goverment cannot produce that proof because they cant.All the rhethoric from the PM and the Ambassador only serves to reinforce the fact that they are covering up the fact that the engines are old. Proving that the engines are new is very simple. Show the documentation!

**maco** » 2012-07-01 18:40

Those engines are old and the evidence is overwhelming. Futhermore it is up to APUA and the Government to produce the evidence that they are new and they have been unable and cant because they are not new. The paint on the plates is evidence of an attempt to spruce up the plant, no new plant is supposed to have paint on its identification plate like that. The rust on the plant is further evidence of an old plant. A plant will only rust after it has been used over a period of time and continious heat over a prolonged period of time undermines and breaksdown the anti-rust and aniti-corrosion properties of the metal or alloy of the plant is made. It is very unlikely if not impossible for five engines in the same power plant will breakdown at the same time.

**Anu** » 2012-07-01 17:04

It is a known fact that man made machinery are not 100% perfect. They will have problems from time to time. However I find it pretty unusual the way how five of six engines for the WPP would just develop problems so severe in a space of 8 months, that they had to be decommissioned for aproximately 1 month. What is also troubling is the fact that APUA has to be purchasing spare parts to repair a presumably new power plant that should be under warranty since it has only been operation for 9 months. This is very odd. I am quite sure that alot of us have purchased machinery at some time in our lives and it is a fact especially when purchasing new ones, in the event that it is not giving the performance thats expected, it is the responsibility of the manufacturer or the authorised dealer to resolve the problem or replace the faulty machine. We the citizens are being kept in the dark and we have a PM who hurl insults and cast blame on his oponents whom he accused of misleading the nation. However the PM has not made any attempt to address the many questions being asked about the WPP that he claims to be new. It is our right to demand answers since he not a leader unto himself

**SlyThatGuy** » 2012-07-01 15:28

fnpsr,the only reason you may not agree with what I say on the subject matter is that you know it's the plain truth,and it's hard to deny it. But just to be clear...I said,"some of us",not "all of us"might naturally assume they aren't new - and I was correct about that because there you are,right? You know,the explanation I made was needed! Someone had to spell out to people like you that it has yet to be proven whether or not the engines are old.

**Dig It** » 2012-07-01 11:49

Finally, there is a saying that we "can't served two masters." The PM has shown that he is on a "collision-cour se" in serving very people he has "sworn" to bring "change" to them! And, The Machiavellian Doctrine is his biggest "enemy" as it is used by persons who have a tendency to "deceive" and "manipulate" others for "personal gain." Must say I like the example given by RP, when he saidQuote:

The cunning "...SPIDER" invited the unsuspecting "...FLY" into its "...PARLOR" only to be entangled in its web. The poor "..FLY" could not escape and fed on for a meal.

Writer, I agree, he must "reveal" Quote:

evidence to back up the claims that the Power Plant is new... immediately...under the Freedom of Information Act... or he must "resign."

Antigua is "bleeding" enough already!

**fnpsr** » 2012-07-01 11:38

Slythatguy, with all due respect I take exception to you analysis. Because the engines don’t work well, leads us all to speculate. When engines don’t work well and the fact that four or five of the six engines are down for extended periods of time, and when there are continuous power interruptions, when the new power plant was to provide reliable electricity, fair-minded persons might think that something is wrong.

If the PM knowingly paid for used engines while telling the good people of Antigua that they are new, I believe that this would be tantamount to misrepresentati on and or fraud, which would be impeachable, evoke a no-confidence vote, a dissolvent of parliament an a call for new elections.

Machines do breakdown from time to time, whether new or old. That is just a fact of life. But, when new machines, as you described, malfunction, they are repaired and or replaced and put back into service in a relative short time. Surely, this cannot be said of the WPP.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck!

“Let’s fix the little things with RWE before we attempt to fix the big things.”

**Dig It** » 2012-07-01 11:29

Totally agree that the PM "must listen, and must bring solutions to important matters faced by the country." As the writer, and, many in the public have seen over years, the PM hasn't totally lived-up to his end of the deal to be "accountable" and "transparent" in his actions/inactio ns in "good governance!" After six months, since CA revealed those "photos," the PM finally said to the people that Quote:

“I want to reassure you that those engines are new engines and they are performing.”

http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/news/politics/100951-the-pm-is-free-to-speculate-browne.html
Yet, he doesn't tell the people that he will have "documentations " to show that the WPP is new or they got "value for the money!" And, most of us know they will be no "public inquiry" in WPP, since he has called his own people "criminals" and "mercenaries!" More importantly, he has used the Loyal Opposition own "ammunition" against them to his advantage, and is now on a "speculation" tour around the country! Antigua is in an "uphill" battle, as the "wrongs" will never be "right!"

**fnpsr** » 2012-07-01 11:04

Mr. Grandalf, I tip my hat to you for calling a spade a spade, a ball a ball and a strike a strike. This is the epitome of fairness. I am particular encouraged by the fact of your full disclosure that you have supported the UPP in the past, but now you are willing to put country first over party. I wish that others would do the same and evaluate politicians and issues on the merits rather than party politics. Congratulations for a job well done!!

“Let’s fix the little things with RWE before we attempt to fix the big things.”

**SlyThatGuy** » 2012-07-01 10:24

Because the engines don't work well,some of us might naturally assume they aren't new; I must inform you,however,tha t "new" engines can still give trouble. We see this,for example,when new vehicles(cars,t rucks, buses,jeeps,suv ,etc.)are recalled and returned to the dealership for engine repair.Even new air crafts and trains with new engines sometimes experience engine trouble from very early. But since( in our particular case with the Wadadli Power Plant)we do not have the slightest idea as to whether or not the engines are old or new,we might find it helpful to only consider "value for money." It's of utmost importance that we get value for our money. Therefore,if the Chinese company cannot get the plant to perform to standard,and because we can't return it for a full refund,our government must negotiate a deal to cut a great,great deal off the price tag.(from $47m-$15m).It would be unacceptable behavior on the Prime Minister's part if it's revealed that he knowingly paid for used engines.End of story.

**ten** » 2012-07-01 09:46

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

**tenman** » 2012-07-01 09:27

Writer, in general well said (except, my opinion, for that part about the first 4 years because its already all being shown a sham due to things like WPP scandal and "fencing"). We all have our opinions but at the end of the day, when dealing with public moneys, details must be publicly available and persons held to account (transparency then accountability) . This is the light which will shun corruption. Anyone who is unwilling to let this light shine is at least aiding and abetting corruption

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**Fergie!** » 2012-07-01 08:10

I think that the people would have risen up before if they were convinced that all the persons making the accusations could be trusted! In other words can you trust Maulwyn (the Lead spokesperson on the WPP issue)to be genuine, when he is alleged to have been "sponsored" to present his story?

Congrats Carib Arena! You are like a terrier that never lets go! Truly the "NEW" Voice of The People!

**Bishop Receipt** » 2012-07-01 08:07

This is a very insightful article!

It seems that everybody has a different agenda! The biggest problem I think Baldwin is now facing is that none of his Cabinet colleagues have yet come out in full support of his position!

However, by meeting with Gaston and agreeing to discuss with his Cabinet a Public Investigation (he can't decide on an inquiry - only the GG can) he has unwittingly "lowered his guard"! It will be next to impossible to turn around now and refuse the Investigation!

He's probably waking up at night now and saying: "et tu Brute?" History may yet show that intentionally or not, Gaston was the only bowler to actually "pull him off his crease, and comprehensively beat him"! We can wait to see who the wicket keeper is that will dislodge his bails!

Yes another glorious day of cricket - sponsored by those great folks at Carib Arena who allow us to get "ball by ball" cometary!

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