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Stuart Claims CIP Concerns Raised

CIP ConcernsAntigua St. John's - Public opinion seems to weigh in favour of Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer’s decision to sack Senators Colin Derrick and Anthony Stuart following their vote against the controversial Citizenship by Investment Programme (CIP) Bill on February 13.

During the call-in segment of the Snake Pit on Observer Radio, one caller opined, “You can’t disrespect the boss when the boss done give you the ultimatum.”

This sentiment was repeated by many other callers, and overwhelming opinion suggested that the senators had other recourse to air their issues with the Bill, rather than killing it in the Senate, effectively thwarting its passage during this sitting of the House.



However, Senator Stuart, in a pre-recorded interview with Observer Radio, noted that he had raised his concerns in another forum with leader of government business in the Senate, Dr Errol Cort.

“With this Bill here, the CIP Bill, there was no intervention, and the Bill went for a vote and you know that in my deliberations, I had certain concerns which I raised at our caucus... and I raised them with my leader, the Honourable Dr Cort, and a representative Mr Radford Hill that was also there,” Stuart said.

He added, “I raised the concerns, the full concerns that I have with the Bill; those were raised. But (what) I am saying is the custom is it never went to a vote or maybe that would have been defeated too, with senators on our side voting against it, but it was returned.”

Stuart said the protocol, as he knows it, is to have caucuses for the senators where they would report concerns to their leader.

“I have never had to report a concern on a Bill directly to the Prime Minister in my nine years there,” he said. “Only if we, as a joint parliamentary team in the upper house and the lower house, meet together on a Bill; but we met separately.”

He noted that the four concerns he raised entailed the payment of the monies into a special fund, whereby he would - as should the rest of the country - want it to be paid into the consolidated fund instead.

“That is a major, major concern of mine, and I hope when the Bill comes back, even if I am not in the Senate, that they correct that, because all monies should go into the consolidated fund. Thirty-two million dollars should not go into a special fund that is managed by the finance minister and some other person,” Stuart said. “It should be managed by the accountant general, and oversight by the auditor general.”

His other concerns relate to the second avenue/option for citizenship, whereby applicants can obtain land. His suggestion was that the government should ensure it has a pact where only a certain amount of acreage will be given. His other issue was with the the agent, as he contended it should not be left to the whims and fancies of just one person from the CIP unit to decide who this person will be.

“I was dealing specifically with the failure of the Bill in these specific areas, and of course the last one was where the Bill, when it passes us there, that would be the last time the Senate would see it. In a true democracy, that should not be,” Stuart said.

He said he stands by his decision because he believes his vote is in the interest of the country.

“I do hope that my government... because I am still part of the United Progressive Party, I don’t think the prime minister has thrown me out, because it can’t be done like that. He has the power to move me from the Senate. But I do hope that the government would take the concerns of senators and address them... if they are moving forward with the programme to make sure that that Bill is so airtight in those areas and that the people of Antigua and Barbuda can benefit,” Stuart said.

The prime minister, in his address to the nation on Friday, pointed said the actions of the four government senators constituted a fundamental break with the government’s policy.

“What is worse is that their actions came as a bolt from the sky. At no time was I, as head of government and the mover of the Bill in my capacity as prime minister, informed or advised (whether formally or informally) of their deep and fundamental disagreement that would have led them to kill the bill, and by so doing, pull the rug from under the feet of the government,” the prime minister said.



He further advised that as the pilot of the Bill in the Lower House, he  was charged with presenting the views of the country’s Cabinet, and by extension speaking to the implementation of a declared policy decision of the government, and that the actions of the four senators were in effect a vote against the government’s own policy directive.

“In our Westminster system of government, when government officials can no longer support the policies of government, especially at the parliamentary level, and demonstrate that by voting against a Bill, then the expected and right thing to do is to resign,” the PM said.

The other two senators - David Massiah and Malaka Parker - according to PM Spencer, sought an audience to explain and apologise for their actions, and offered their resignations from the Senate.

“With respect to the other two senators, Colin Derrick and Anthony Stuart, from whom nothing has been heard since that eventful Wednesday, 13 February, 2013, decency, fairness and correctness demand that I advise the governor general to revoke the instruments of appointment of Colin Derrick and Anthony Stuart and to declare their seats vacant,” the PM said.

 

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skyewill - The Teflon Don (Cort)

#19 tenman » 2013-02-25 21:18

skyewill, I am in agreement with you. The man ignored all warning signs and proceeded to pull the trigger. They now act surprised regardless of the warnings. I heard Cort basically tell them the bill would not go back for adjustments, that it must be passed now and changes could be made in the future. For BS to be suggesting they could have sent it back, he needs to take that issue up with Cort, who ignored the Senators request that it be sent back.


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The Hidden Treasure! PT2

#18 John French II » 2013-02-25 18:04

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock! The UN's HDI measurement is A Nations acievement of meeting the People's Health, Education & Well Being.
These form the basic building blocks of a persons hierarchy of needs.
In the 80''s & 90' whereas A&B was ranked in the 30's Cuba was ranked in the 80's. That they have closed the Gap on all Caribbean SIDS should say something about a people motivated to be masters in their own house, prepared to make sacrifices at home & abroad for the common & collective good of people and like Sir Vere Quote:
rightly proud of his achievements; sees Antigua as on the verge of self-sufficiency, and in no mood to be dictated to - Sir Arthur Lewis
sell out his land for a fistful of money as the former disaster of an AG who was the legal adviser to the travelling Sales Junket and saw another Palms in UAE to fleece & maximize his terminal wealth. There will be wailing at the publishing of the 2012 HDI Data. Careers will be left in tatters. With no tall buildings on the Rock, many will wend their sorry A$$es, just as the ancestors, to Devil's Bridge to invoke Nina Simone's Sinnerman.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5tiuZU4JI
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The Hidden Treasure!

#17 John French II » 2013-02-25 17:12

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock! The People of The Book wrote, "The Kingdom of Heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found & covered up; then in his joy he goes and sells all that he has & buys that field" & "What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul'?' Annually, the United Nations Publishes the Human Development Index (HDI). This HDI measures a Nation's average achievement in three basic areas of human development: a long healthy life; knowledge; a decent standard of living.The 2011 Nations' Rankings. hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/
A & B ranks 60, behind Barbados(47), Cuba(51), Bahamas(53) or 4th of Caribbean SIDS in the average categories of the HDI measurement.
The Other Caribbean SIDS engaged or engaging in CIP of a similar Nature to the Bill blocked by the Senate are Grenada(67) who abandoned it, St. Kitts & Nevis(72) & Dominica(81) since the 80's. Barbados & Bahamas have said no. Cuba, don't even think it. Friends, the Constitution of A&B 1981 entitles all to Life, Liberty, Security of the Person, the Enjoyme nt of Property and the Protect ion of the Law.
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#16 Smoke n Mirrors » 2013-02-25 16:09

don't listen to the PM. I do NOT believe for one second that the 2 Senators apologized. This is a facade. I know enough to know that Ms. Parker never even met with the PM.
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@ young analist

#15 Lord Have Mercy » 2013-02-25 13:37

The Prime Minister of Antigua and Barbuda, Dr Dr Hon BS is much bigger than the BOSS, he is a CONSTITUTIONAL KING. The supreme law of the land (Constitution) say so.

He is endowed with sweeping powers to APPOINT and DISAPPOINT.

I need you young people to understand that when you say Antigua is a DEMOCRACY, you really mean a WESTMINSTER STYLE DEMOCRACY, which is in fact a DEMOCRATIC MONARCHY ...

Antigua is ruled by a CONSTITUTIONAL KING. Why you think Gaston Browne is willing to get in bed with Disco Dumplin ... Local Politicians will do anything just to be close to the POWER.
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The bill.

#14 Shalingo » 2013-02-25 13:14

Y don't they do the right thing for the people of the country don't the know we have the power to move them.
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@ JB

#13 Dessalines » 2013-02-25 12:25

Well said. You hit the nail on the head. Many programs made in Antigua are codified beliefs and feelings. An example is the school uniform program which gave vouchers to wealthy and middle class families who did not need it. Sadly our policy makers do not have an appreciation for management information systems and the benefits we derive from them.
I proposed that Antigua introduce a multi purpose Identification card system (SS,MB,Voters ID all in one for both citizens and residents ) which would facilitate information gathering and research but it was deemed too intrusive by some. Now we have a situation where our government can only guesstimate how many people are unemployed or underemployed etc.
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DID YOU SAY LEADER OF THE SENATE?

#12 OUTOFANTIGUA » 2013-02-25 11:20

Or you mean Baldwin Spencer's brain.Any thing Errol touches whither away.
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worrying!!

#11 Young analyst » 2013-02-25 11:13

So i was not listening to the snake pit program, but am i getting that the cry by many was “You can’t disrespect the boss when the boss done give you the ultimatum.” Is voting for what you believe in, is that disrespect? Are these persons true Antiguans, so in essence if they had met before hand to recourse the issues of the bill, what would they have presented in parliament? Would it be what was told to them or what there true problem with the bill is?
We Antiguans must start to realise that yes he is our PM but he works for us he is not the BOss.
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RE: Stuart Claims CIP Concerns Raised

#10 Firebug » 2013-02-25 09:05

I wonder if I could get a job as a senator in Antigua and Barbuda?
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RE: Stuart Claims CIP Concerns Raised

#9 jim » 2013-02-25 07:51

Goodbye senators.
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RE: Stuart Claims CIP Concerns Raised

#8 gaston » 2013-02-25 07:50

Asot should be fired for supporting this bill.
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Joke!

#7 Voice of the People » 2013-02-25 07:21

This whole debacle gets funnier by the day! How can Massiah and Parker apologize for voting against their conscience? Can Massiah really represent union workers in the future when they have a grievance against the UPP Government? He should be fired from the Union! What about Parker? Another woman "beaten" into submission? Where is POWA?

Baldwin - you are nothing but a Dictator!
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Where are the real journalists?2

#6 JB » 2013-02-25 06:22

Too often we have politicians, civil servants, radio personalities, electoral commissioners, boundaries commissioners, not understanding or practicing any form of research methods! I've heard politicians debating bills on hearsay. At one sitting I heard a politician supporting a bill because she heard that there were approx. 10 people living in a house. Now we have boundary proposed changes, without the results of a census. Youth unemployment figures touted about without data collection from the appropriate department. Just to name a few, the list is endless. Wah happen nobody in antigua know bout data collection and analysis?
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Where are the real journalists?

#5 JB » 2013-02-25 06:21

"- Public opinion seems to weigh in favour of Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer’s decision to sack Senators Colin Derrick and Anthony Stuart following their vote against the controversial Citizenship by Investment Programme (CIP) Bill on February 13."

Really? Wow,...this misleading conclusion based from listening to a few callers to a programme one evening? Not even from an online poll? Chuuuuuupssss!

Where are the real investigators, pollsters, journalists, professionals!? Persons who understand that data and planning, as well as implementing of policies is not based on feelings, or conversations you hold with friennemies at a local bar or restaurant.p, or listening to party supporters on a radio station? I'm quite aware that "seems" have been tucked into the sentence, but the context of the two paragraphs, suggests that public opinion is in agreement with the prime ministers actions.
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The Counselor & The Developer!

#4 John French II » 2013-02-25 06:01

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock! Some say that this was a slam dunk for the Counselor! Others say, No doubt about it, he had dreams of Schemers! Others say he had Visions of the People living like the Han People of the Interior, the State's Economic Engine Being fuelled by the Coastal People as in the PRoC. The Colours would go from Yellow to Blue To Black. Dreams & Visions became daydreams & nightmares. As was his wont when playing dominoes, he would slam his ebony bones on the table & call for a Shut. So Said So Done.
The Developer has laid his cards on the Table. He smoked out &d reminded all of the Evasive ALP AG's junket to the world's Tallest Building Burj Khalifa the luxuries of the man-made Islands of Palms reminiscent of when he fleeced the Palms. Oh how we forget! The Developer did a Columbo on them & exposed the Convergence of UPP & ALP. To The Benevolent & Most Merciful. Quote:
The universe is unfolding as it shouldTherefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, & whatever your labors & aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. Be careful. Strive to be happy.
Go in Peace Senators!
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RE: Stuart Claims CIP Concerns Raised

#3 not again » 2013-02-25 05:56

Thank you Senators for putting aside party and voting for country. I disagree with the firing 100%. You have to protect Antigua and antiguans FIRST AND ALWAYS.
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The leader in the Senate

#2 skyewill » 2013-02-25 04:58

Even though the PM may blame the decenting 4. Personally I believe it is the Government's leader in the Senate and the manager of the government's business is at fault. The bill was not reafy. The other issue was to incorporate a revenue that had not passed into the budget was STUPID. So who is coming up with these STUPID IDEAS?
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stand up

#1 carvaa » 2013-02-25 04:05

We need more people like Stuart in politics, this is a man i would gladly vote for to represent me. Kudo's Mr Stuart.
One individual that would never get a vote from me is Mr ass kisser himself senator Winston Williams, i just hate to see this guy in the same audience when the prime minister is present, or hear him speak at all. Williams is what we call a true YES man, so istead of staying and honestly debate the bill and let us see what he is made of he ask to be excuse, i guess he went to went to buy his outfit for the valentine wedding hosted by Good morning A/B the next day. Our PM will now have to find four individuals exactly like his page boy senator Williams. Get up stand up, stand up for your right and senator Stuart remember to keep fighting always.
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