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Browne Issues Statement on Gaming Dispute

Opposition leader Gaston browneAntigua St. John's - Political Leader of the ALP and Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition in Parliament Gaston Browne has spoken out on the position taken by the ruling UPP on the internet gaming dispute between Antigua & Barbuda and the United States of America.

Browne’s statement is as follows:

The Antigua & Barbuda Labour Party is deeply concerned about the collision course with the United States on which the UPP government is taking our country over the Internet Gaming Dispute at the World Trade Organization (WTO).



This collision course is not only with the US government but with several important and wealthy organizations that represent tens of thousands of copyright holders in the United States. These include the National Music Publishers Association, and the International Intellectual Property Alliance that represents seven trade associations, including the Motion Picture Association of America, the Recording Industry Association of America and the Business Software Alliance.

All of these powerful organisations have indicated publicly through their lawyers that they will retaliate.

In public statements, they have made it clear that they “will work to ensure that Antigua’s eligibility to participate in any US trade assistance or benefit is withdrawn”.  
The Labour Party points out that the withdrawal of such assistance will affect every man, woman and child in Antigua & Barbuda.  Further, retaliation will not be limited to trade benefits and assistance.  It will include ease of travel into the United States, banking relationships including money transfers, and help to institutions such as the coast guard.

Additionally, should the UPP government proceed with any plan not to pay copyright to US copyright holders, the government can expect to be sued in US courts by powerful copyright organisations.  Judgements against the government could result in Antigua & Barbuda’s assets in the US being seized, including payments by tour operators and travel agents.  

Beyond all of this which is bad enough, Antigua & Barbuda has copyright obligations by binding international treaties apart from the WTO.   Among the binding obligations to respect and uphold copyright are those under the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO).   The UPP government would be violating those binding legal obligations should it pursue this ill-advised course of action not to pay copyright to US writers, performers, musicians and so on.

We remind that it was the Labour Party government that took this matter to the WTO because of a duty of care to the hundreds of Antiguans and Barbudans who were employed in the Internet Gaming Industry.  It was under the Labour Party that the WTO made its original ruling in favour of Antigua & Barbuda in March 2004.

The Antigua & Barbuda Labour Party makes it clear that the dispute with the United States is legitimate and valid.  But we never had a dispute with US citizens who earned the copyright for their work.

Should the UPP proceed, it is not the US government that it will be harming; it will be private citizens who have no quarrel with Antigua & Barbuda.

We also make it clear that, at no time since the UPP came to office, have they consulted in any way whatsoever with the Labour Party on this matter.

We have had to sit on the sidelines while they completely bungled the issue.

In fact, over the last almost 9 years, the UPP has treated with the matter in a non-transparent manner. Neither the people of this country, nor the Labour Party have any notion of what the US has offered in settlement, what the UPP government has demanded, and what has been refused.

What is clear to the Labour Party is that, like so many other vital matters of importance to our country, the UPP government has mishandled and mismanaged this affair and has set us on a course of disaster with the US where thousands of our people live, where we purchase most of our essential goods including medicines, where the majority of our tourists originate, and from whom we derive trade, aid and other benefits.



We are aware that Article XXI of the General Agreement on Trade in Services (GATS) provides for negotiated compensation to be paid to Antigua & Barbuda and other affected countries by the US.  It was always under the terms of Article XXI that the Labour Party government would have been prepared to reach a negotiated settlement with the US that was fair.

We know that the US has negotiated a full settlement with every other affected country, and that the US Representative to the WTO has stated publicly that “only one single Member, out of the entire WTO membership, will not accept compensatory service concessions. That Member is Antigua”.

Further, the US representative has stated clearly that ‘based on specific requests made by Antigua, The United States has offered real and substantial benefits that would make important contributions to the future development of the Antiguan economy”.

Again, because of the non-transparent manner in which the UPP regime has mangled this matter, neither the people of Antigua & Barbuda nor the Antigua Labour Party have any idea what the US offered and why the UPP regime refused.

What we do know is that the idea of establishing a website to deprive US citizens of their legitimately earned copyright is a very ill-advised project that will cast our nation as a rogue state in the international community with harmful consequences for our people.

We also question how transparent and accountable would be this mechanism for a website to sell US intellectual property without paying copyright.  Who does the UPP intend to run the website?  Will the financial and administrative arrangements be made known to the people of Antigua & Barbuda?  And will the amount of money be made public and paid into the consolidated fund?

In the premise, the Antigua & Barbuda Labour Party rejects this disastrous course on which the UPP seems determined to set our country, and we will hold the UPP responsible for its consequences should they proceed.

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AN INTERNATIONAL DEBACLE FOR ANU

#27 OUTOFANTIGUA » 2013-02-05 01:37

What does the United States want? its not as simple as it looks.they wont just pay the money without getting something they can live with.regulation s come to mind; thats more favourable to them. what are we asking for beside the Hard Cash. somewhere in between must be a solution. i refuse to believe the US will not complY with the WTOs rulling just because of our size, maybe our negotiators are in over their heads,so how about UPP,ALP a few chosen INTELECTUALS sit down and formulate a workable solution. If we carry out these threats ANU loses big time. remember how long it took CUBA to exhale.
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RE: Browne Issues Statement on Gaming Dispute

#26 GoodJobBob » 2013-02-02 02:28

The WTO argued contrary to the argument you made and the US, that this was the tool needed because we were a small nation.

No, it's not because Antigua is small, it's that it exports virtually nothing and imports virtually everything, so there wasn't any genuine trade sanctions which could be granted as in cases involving countries with industries.
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RE: Browne Issues Statement on Gaming Dispute

#25 GoodJobBob » 2013-02-02 02:21

You asked why the WTO would give us the tool it did? Simple we asked for it.

As the Brits say: "Give 'em enough rope, and they'll hang themselves"! :D
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Professor

#24 tenman » 2013-01-31 19:11

Professor you and I tend to see eye to eye on most issues except this one. Perhaps the difference may lie in the fact that I have worked in this said industry. You asked why the WTO would give us the tool it did? Simple we asked for it. The US argued against our having it. The WTO argued contrary to the argument you made and the US, that this was the tool needed because we were a small nation. We do not have the power to sway the US as some nations would, by blocking or impeding market access. Antigua argued our taking that route would hurt us more than it would help. Where I fault the government in this was their failure to involve the opposition. There was a strategic meeting held in Aug 2011, which involved the stake holders. The opposition should have been included. There was also a meeting recently (Sept 2012) with the same interests and the government should have also invited key opposition members. I am of the opinion that government should have taken this path years ago

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GASTON BROWN: A BIG DISSAPOINTMENT

#23 Lord Have Mercy » 2013-01-31 17:05

GASTON IS DELIBERATELY LYING WHEN HE SAYS
"... should the UPP government proceed with any plan not to pay copyright to US copyright holders, the government can expect to be sued in US courts by powerful copyright organisations. Judgements against the government could result in Antigua & Barbuda’s assets in the US being seized, including payments by tour operators and travel agents. "

IT IS EQUALLY FALSE THAT
"The UPP government would be violating those binding legal obligations should it pursue this ill-advised course of action not to pay copyright to US writers, performers, musicians and so on."

I had such high hopes for this guy, but I have not seen any real leadership from him. And when real opportunities come to show what he is made of Gaston Brown always come up with this kind of drivel.
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COMMON SENSE

#22 Professor » 2013-01-31 16:30

If something that usually confers a benefit like an award, a gift, a judgement, a prize, a settlement or an accolade is going to bring you more harm than benefit, common sense dictates that it should be discarded, or exchanged (re-negotiated) until a reasonable agreement is reached.

When USA gave the WTO the green light to issue its settlement, Team USA had already strategized several moves ahead. ll that is happening now was completely foreseeable. The world is waiting and watching to see if Team Wadadli is stupid enough to sabotage itself over 21 million dollars.

This case is not about politics, trade, ethics or morality ... it is all about COMMON SENSE, which has never been that common in Antiguan politics.
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Observer

#21 tenman » 2013-01-31 14:53

Observer, Colin Sampson has an article today titled " A Certain Mentality" which speaks to the issue of what is truth. How can it be right to take someone to court because you feel aggrieved, yet when a method to afford you compensation is offered, you then argue not to pursue it because it would hurt the country's citizens. When the US imposed tariffs on Canada during their softwood dispute, will anyone suggest that Canadians who worked in that industry were not hurt? When the Us imposed sanctions on Cuba are we suggesting that the citizens there were not hurt by the embargo? Is the US not a democracy therefore its people would be able to lobby it to settle this matter? I agree that the government should have included the opposition in this. For the first time in a long time I agree with Lovell, we need to have a united front on this issue

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Antiguan Abroad

#20 skyewill » 2013-01-31 14:04

At what point do you wish we do foolishness? US want to go home with their face nothing else. They are working with their own perceived lawfulness and values. We are the ones want something and I don’t think they give a dam. With that in mind, there is no standard form for a negotiation. Negotiations are as different as the individual parties and have to be treated that way. I’ve done a few in my day but in today’s real world the key is teaming up with the opponent for the benefit of you both. Can you see the negotiating team profiling each member of the other side and looking at samples of their work to see their trends and planning a strategy? Doing a needs analysis, showing them the damage they did to the industry and its effect on us with additional pounding from the global economic crisis (we love using that one on our people, use it on them). Hand in hand, we still on the same side me brethren.
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Soon Disappointed Mr Browne

#19 oversee » 2013-01-31 13:54

The spinelessness of my people drives me to despair. Just when it seems we might be getting some backbone into our political masters, the balloon has dropped out of the sky with a huge bump. We are so used to kowtowing to the US that even when right is on our side we shudder; we find any and every excuse to cast aside what is best in our interest for fear of riling the Mighty One. I guess it's in our DNA so we might as well grin and bear it if it's left to Mr Browne. High hopes dashed at the first hurdle :-x
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@Gaston

#18 JOBLESS » 2013-01-31 13:27

Again you have clarified the problem and explained more eloquently the UPP's errors. What suggestions or recommendations would the ALP under your leadership bring to the table? You'd got to STOP this STUPID politicizing of issues. I know what is went wrong. I know that the UPP is not handling the matter correctly. I even know that the position adopted is unwise. But you have not brought anything new and contrasting to the table.

You behave in the same old school politics of the past. ME WAN FU KNO WHA UR ALTERNATIVE IS...
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Proper opposition respond so far.

#17 Observer.. » 2013-01-31 12:47

I think the statement is a proper and leveled respond from her royal opposition so far. The UPP has failed to include the ALP opposition in anything that warrants a united approach of parliament. Yet today they will seek support from the very same opposition. I remember it was the very same UPP who lambasted the then government for taking the big USA to the WTO. Even on Observer radio there where many crying out how Lester can be so foolish. And when the judgment came in favor of Antigua they were silent. But it was also the same UPP that was against the then government force fully acquiring the Half Moon Bay property and yet they turn around and did the same. But in both these cases rather than to bring it to a good and positive end they made matters worse. I wonder when they will deal with the Half Moon Bay issue cause that is another time bomb the US will use against us.
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SlyThatGuy

#16 tenman » 2013-01-31 11:55

SlyThatGuy , I am surprised we are on the same side here. Really had to sit and double check especially since your argument is similar to Tanny Rose. Like you I believe that anyone who tells persons they should bend to a bully, has no real love for them. I recall the former ALP leader pointing out that we cannot depend on the US or any "first world"country. He reminded of the about 50K check they sent our way after hurricane Luis. The current and past government keep saying we do not get aid from large countries because we are considered middle income. They preached we are on our own yet now some basically argue we are dependent on the US

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@Skyewill

#15 Antiguan Abroad » 2013-01-31 11:45

I respect your passion when you tackle a subject....but in this instance, we disagree. The so-called "truth" you speak of was gleaned from a public statement by the US to the WTO. The Antiguan side made their own statement at the same public forum. I read both statements and it would have been very easy for the Americans to offer definitive proof to make a lie of what the Antiguan Ambassador said. They did not do so.

I am not saying that the Antiguan side should do anything foolish at this point. But as an experienced negotiator, I do know that it is better to come to the negotiating table armed with something of value that the other side wants. In this case, the Antiguans had nothing of consequence when they first commenced the action. Now they have several WTO judgments in their favor, and permission to employ sanctions as determined by that body. The Americans are now screaming "piracy" and "theft" and a lot of people are hysterically snatching on to these catch phrases. I say both sides should meet in a spirit of conciliation, negotiate with level heads, and hopefully the Antiguans can now get the substantial settlement they have been seeking.
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THINKING BIG

#14 tenman » 2013-01-31 11:38

THINKING BIG a recent BBC report quoted the US as offering 500K USD ( www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21193634)
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Tenman

#13 skyewill » 2013-01-31 11:16

It's the understanding culture and incorporating it into your negotiations. its not about winning and losing, it's about winning and winning They should have saved the lawyer money and hired an Industrial P**s.
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RE: Browne Issues Statement on Gaming Dispute

#12 SlyThatGuy » 2013-01-31 11:03

Gaston Browne's argument is simply hogwash! He and the other members of the Antigua & Barbuda Labor Party are showing that they're more deeply concerned about the US citizens than they are about the innocent citizens of Antigua & Barbuda who were adversely affected by the illegal action the US took against our country. Antigua won a court judgment against the United States that give our government the legal rights to do what it's preparing to do,and if the citizens of the United States are affected as a direct result,they should only blame their government for putting them in this precarious position,not Antigua.
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Antiguan Abroad

#11 skyewill » 2013-01-31 10:30

Antiguan Abroad, bending like a Lilly? That is the same mentality that got us here in the first place. Mr. Browne spoke the truth; you want anything better than that? Mr. Browne has a duty to us as a people to deliver the opposition’s position on all subject matter. Only in cases of criminal activity where compromising the information may compromise prosecution or national security (not likely). Anything, in these meetings will be in the media as the Americans don’t work that way. This is why you know the story is so shady. On one side you got one information and on the other side (our side) you have secrecy. So we get one side of the story and speculate on the other side. So if the government is the best in the world nobody can know because they operate in a vacuum. A lady said that it is time for women and she maybe right. We need to stop thinking with the little head.
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Can we trust the UPP?

#10 THINKING BIG » 2013-01-31 10:07

What was the offer of settlement and counter offer between the US and Antigua? Given how misleading the UPP govt has been on so many issues SS, Chinese Plant, Fence Scandal, how can we be sure that it is speaking the truth? Is this more an election tactic than a stance of national interest?
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Antiguan Abroad

#9 tenman » 2013-01-31 09:56

Antiguan Abroad, well said. If the opposition leader feels there is information he lacks, he should first demand it. I have heard opposition members via Fire and Steel claim they would have been able to negotiate a proper settlement. My question is if true, why did they need to go to the WTO? Aren't taking matters to a court the last resort? How is it wrong to break US copyright law with the blessings of the WTO but ok for gaming companies to break US laws like UIEGA and the Wire Act? I agree with both Mitchell Edwards (Today Via Observer Radio (OR) morning show) and Tanny Rose (two days ago via OR 11:30 show) that we need to should not accept disrespect simply because someone has more power.

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Pt. 2

#8 Antiguan Abroad » 2013-01-31 09:14

Wouldn’t it be better for the opposition leader to offer advice directly to the government, their lawyers and diplomats behind the scenes to avert what he considers a national crisis, instead of bending like a lily before all these "powerful" international forces he speaks of? Americans admire people with "cojones", and I consider the current strategy risky, but smart negotiating. There is no "crisis" yet, nor will there be if the right people strategize properly.

Antigua by its bold action has grabbed the attention of many around the world who will rally to support what even the WTO deemed "unfair trade practices" by the US. Just do a Google search and read the many comments in favor of the current action, or at least comments showing an appreciation of why Antigua was forced into this position.

Mr. Opposition Leader, don't be a wimp.
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Pt. 1

#7 Antiguan Abroad » 2013-01-31 09:07

I hate to criticize the opposition leader, but these remarks don't reflect strong leadership, I'm sorry to say. He takes as "fact" a statement from the US that Antigua has refused its offer to settle. But the following is an excerpt from the public statement made by the Antiguan ambassador to the WTO (which was printed by Caribarena this past Tuesday, and reiterated by attorney Mendel in other international news media): "We have been forthcoming and conciliatory, and fully understand what it means to compromise. But in all of our years of discussions with the United States, they have never once given us a settlement proposal of their own..... In one instance, they agreed to a key part of our settlement proposals–that they cease the criminal prosecution and jailing of our citizens–and then after weeks of effort and considerable expense, completely rejected the agreement we thought we had made, incredibly issuing a criminal indictment against one of our operators almost simultaneously, as if to underscore their reversal.”
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Is Chavez instructing Baldwin to pick a fight?

#6 Dr. Dredd » 2013-01-31 08:44

One wonders. We can never win this fight with the US. So why start? And just for 20 million which can't even pay Government salaries for 2 months? This makes no sense and one can only speculate that Chavez is using Spencer as a surrogate to start a fight with the US.
You know when Chavez pulls the strings, BS has to dance.
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The Bluff eExposed

#5 skyewill » 2013-01-31 08:19

That e before Exposed is on purpose. Here is why: via electronic media we know everything. my e is like the e in email, the e in ecommerce and the e in emedia. If you don't understand any of this you now got just like it is from Mr. Browne. IF skyewill made no sence to you, WHOOP there it is.
In the negotiating process you must remember the other guy has to take home something positive and you hope he feels the same about you. To go in the the attitude win all and don't give nothing cause fighting and fighting never work. I believe the WTO ruling was unfair to Antigua however it is what it is and we must move forward. All good relationships starts with relationship building and that's why we have diplomats. The reasons for diplomats is to create friendly relationships, Right? They say you never get a second chance to make a FIRST impression. Matching talant, skills and experience with the mission is very important. If you are doing a good job with good intentions, there is nothing to hide.
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@ Baldwin

#4 Jackie Spence » 2013-01-31 07:43

You better back away from this one before it's too late! I know you want cash for the elections - but this one will bring you down! Gaming Issue? This is one gamble you can't win - pardon the pun!
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@ Gaston Browne

#3 Jimmy » 2013-01-31 07:40

Well said! This "crackhead" Government want to take "right" and make "might" against the richest and most powerful country in the world. It seems as though they taking advice from Iran through xanxoxr and Venezuela through xruxe xoodxin!

What a bunch of inept idiots led by the most inept Leader in the whole world.
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hold the UPP responsible for its consequences should they proceed

#2 skyewill » 2013-01-31 07:08

Here is why: The money looked so good the left their heads in their pockets. I believe they have been fooling the people on this the whole time. I just dont understand Why. Everything is a secret with UPP an organization who promised transparancy. Hence the saying, " a promise is comfort to a fool. FOOL ME ONCE and I'm done!
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Gaston you full ah **

#1 Waikili » 2013-01-31 03:04

Gaston it seems like now you get Bird out the way you head get full with bird **.
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