What madness! Pun very much intended!

I thought you advised me to be mature in my comments.Its a good thing i can detect a hypocrite from a mile off,you,re just that.It seem my comment directed towards DAVID SHOULIN,stirke a chord with you more than anyone else,is it because both David Shoulin& the good Jackie Spence maybe one and the same?? I fail to see how someone commenting on his/her desire to migrate makes his comments comedial,its things like these that pushed me to say what i did about the intellectual capacity of some persons,you now seem to fall in that bracket,whom the cap fits let them proudly wear it,since my previous comment was not directed at you,you choose to pick it up,then thats your problem. I am an Antiguan,and you or no one else will intimidate me,i am free to speak my mind. Just like you find my rantings comedial,so i find the fact that Antigua sits back and allow the Govt to do whatever they please and the only thing they can do is blog and blog,that is what i find to be comedial,again if the cap fits you wear it proudly,i perfer to put my energy into more productive areas.

I see there is a great obsession with Gaston Browne going on. Everyone seems to be trying their best to gut the Chairman. I don't blame them though; the young man has a lot to show for himself. Gaston keep pressing on brother. I like how you state your opinion and let it be. They need to learn to respect others and their positions. Jealousy and selfishness are just getting the best of them now but im certain YOU WILL PREVAIL IN THE END.And remember... "...ignoring an idiot and his idiotic ways is the best way to lay him to rest."

...and we wonder why the youths are turning to crime, violene and other negative behavior. It is played out before them in every way possible by our elders, leaders and those who they should be immulating...ti t for tat, when you neighbor house on fire wet yours, the apple does not fall far from the tree, monkey see monkey do, don't eat where you crap...**king idiots, our children are watching and learning

Dear Sir,

There is an old saying in Trinidad which goes like this: "Dog does play dead to catch cobo (buzzard)"!

See what you can deduce from this fable.

As an aside, would Wilmouth be the "spider" and Baldwin the "fly" in you fable above?

Read more: http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/news/politics/100951-the-pm-is-free-to-speculate-browne.html#addcomments#ixzz1zOBGr5VN

alp is full of **ttttttttt,gas ton brown is killing this party until they get rid of him my vote is gone. voting for gaston is like voting for asot wast of vote,these guys are not ready yet supported the alp in the last two election and just cant see me voting for alp again,wondering how that could happen and they not in power.ALP CANNOT WIN THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION ,CANT SEE THAT,IT WOULD TAKE A MIRACLE.THEY HAVE TO GET RID OF GASTON AND ASOT IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A CHANCE,,,AND GUESS WHAT THESE TWO GUYS WILL WIN THERE SEATS ,MIND BODDERLIN ........

Hey PM. Thanks to your power plant we have no electricity now in Potters. Good job.

tell me the gov of the day went out and spend all that money and the plant ain't working

NEW ENGINES were paid for by HARD EARNED MONIES OF THE PEOPLE OF ANTIGUA/BARBUDA ,no one from the company that made the NEW ENGINES were in ANTIGUA/BARBUDA to INSTALL THEM.
The PUBLIC is saying,APUA/the GOAB,cannot even GET INSURANCE FOR the MEW ENGINES.
HOW come we have not heard that APUA/GOAB asking the COMPANY they PURCHASED the ENGINES FROM to COME and TAKE THE NEW ENGINES BACK,because in the NEXT FEW MONTHS,APUA/GOA B will SPEND MORE of the PEOPLES MONIES TO MENTAIN THESE O L D E N G I N E S than they P A I D for the SO C A L L E D NEW ENGINES.
It is said the OLD ENGINES CAME WITH MISSING PARTS.

Hello Fellow Commentators,

Read with particular interest the 49 commentaries emanting from the subject matter. A high percentage were well reasoned-some attacking; ...some defensive; ...some offering suggesstions; ...some fascinating and some, well, somewhat troubling.

As you must know, the "...politicking " is not an area to my liking. But somethings seemed reminiscent to the fabled story of the "...SPIDER AND THE FLY."

The cunning "...SPIDER" invited the unsuspecting "...FLY" into its "...PARLOR" only to be entangled in its web. The poor "..FLY" could not escape and fed on for a meal. See what may be deduced from such fable.

Lively interaction. There is no need to quarrel and fight. Best wishes to all.

you not doing gaston any justice. It's people like you despite the short comings of the UPP,lord knows there are many! Make it hard for persons to gravitate towards ALP. Peter you think the worse of the current leader of the party yet u vote ALP. it is obvious by your constant attack on Joseph you don't like him either. You can see the faults of everyone in the party except gaston. Why don't you make a public plea for both honorable gentlemen to give back the campaign contributions from standford while they were both negotiating with the standford group. The depositors would be delighted. Go easy on Joseph. Years in your party has helped him to spot corruption after all he exposed the fencing scandal.

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. As much as I have avoided giving credence to the thought for most of this life, you have been correct on many things but moreso on RWE. As Morris, Skyewill & Tenmam noted being played was such an elementary mistake. Leadership! Pompey has them all pegged.

On a positive note - "Let's fix the little things before we attempt to fix the big things" as we Vision the Future.

Go Well! Much Respect!

JF, well said! I will summarize in simple terms - Let's fix the little things before we attempt to fix the big things.

MP Gaston Browne, is on the right track, corruption still exist within the ALP. Neither democracy nor contrary views are part of ALPs new agenda, old lies are forever repeated, Gaston is now ALPs scapegoat.

Additionally, PM Baldwin Spencer should be more tactical with words, and not be part of the covert attack against MP Gaston Browne. The latest news fodder in addition to the campaign of lies against the WPP needs a quick resolution.

And MP Browne patriotic assertion that monies were paid to known individual is the begining of that resolve. So, there is no need for speculation!

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Quote:

The Ritual of the Calling of an Engineer has been instituted with the simple end of directing the young engineer towards a consciousness of his profession and its significance, and indicating to the older engineer his responsibilities in receiving, welcoming and supporting the young engineers in their beginnings.
—Rudyard Kipling

Bureaucrats & Technocrats Live On. Politicians Move On.
S/He who touts Ethical Standards must live by those Ethics. Rawlston Pompey's Brown Boy In The House is Prophetic. Quote:

STRANDED WOUNDED AND GROUNDED..., in the aftermath, the Honourable ... appeared to have been left “…disappointingly stranded and egoistically wounded.” Indicating an intention to “…draw sword,” if circumstances demand, such had been seen as purely “…psychological rhetoric.” That said a person may sometimes choose to act upon his own volition or impulse. Frequently, it was usually done without warning, consultation, authorization and/or consideration of repercussions ... reasonable inferences may have been drawn that other than “…denials and/or refuted deals,”

Go Well! Respect!

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Friends, if only the People of A&B could be rid of this scourge of "Ethical Badmindedness", this small place where sun, sea & sand make beauty would be a SIDS, where the beach is just the begining to a succesful and resilient economy; where the environment is cherished; where everyone strives to make government work better with vibrant & flourishing communities and productive links to the wider world. language deliberatively chosen from the UK's white paper on its overseas territories.
It would be most positive if our political elites rather than spouting empty words would take Dr. Isaac Newton's Template of "The Innovative Good: Against Agony; For Innovation & The Right People," to critically brainstorm and analyse problems.
To APUA Engineers and our Politicos: The Ritual of the Calling of an Engineer is a ritual for students about to graduate from an engineering program at a university in Canada. The ritual is administered by a body called The Corporation of the Seven Wardens. Each participant is conferred the Iron Ring as part of the ritual. Even then they are not Professional Engineers.

Ok ladies and gentlemen. Enough is enough blokes. We all want an investigation and should stick to that issue. Bring the fighting to an end and work together to get the investigation.

Mr Best the ALP politicians who have been vocal on the WPP issue have been Molwyn Joseph, Lennox Weston, Gaston Browne, Cutie Benjamin, Lester Bird, Robin Yearwood, Teco Lake...... Out of the list, The two most vocal on this matter have been Molwyn Joseph and Lennox Weston. Gaston Browne has launched his objection to Joseph & Weston argument that the power plant is old. I have never heard either of the two gentlemen attack Mr Browne via the media. The last time i check, Vere Bird 3 is an attorney at law and the founder of the Lone Wolf Picketers. He is an independent voice, not a politician. Mr Best you need to get your facts straight

It's very shortsighted of Gaston Browne not to have foreseen party supporter's displeasure at his going it alone in a meeting with the Prime Minister. And what did he accomplished from doing that? Absolutely nothing! Only he came away feeling good about an empty promise made by the Prime Minister to talk it over with his Cabinet members - yes,the same Cabinet members who voted unanimously that there was no need for an inquiry into the matter.So,Gasto n,you really didn't make any progress there.

If Gaston Browne wanted to know if we got value for money, he would have had the previlage as a statesman to get the information. Every company that manufacture power plants sells their product at a price per megawatt. The UPP govt claim that they purchased the 30 megawatt WPP for U$47 million, which means they spent aproximately U$1.5666 million per megawatt. I highly doubt that a power plant that can only consume HFO (Bunker C) fuel, would cost so much money if they are new and base on the performance of the WPP, definitely not a new power plant. It is incumbent of the govt to tell the nation the whole truth about the power plant. Gaston please do some research and report back to the nation.

Bloggers, please leave alone any Bird that sings **Tweet, Tweet and Chirping and Chirping** to addle your brains. Whether hatchlings, male or female, that's what Birds do.

Thanks to Caribarena and people like you who wish to see the truth unfold.

Calypsonian Cyrus Beckett says, Don't ease up.

Birdwoman, unfortunately, you totally and recklessly took my post out of context! I am sorry if I am not saying what you want me to say! For the record, I NEVER said on this forum that I support MJ or any of the ALP senior members for "leadership!" Please stop "speculating" and spreading "childrens melee!" If you are "regular" blogger on CA, you would know that I support an "inquiry" into WPP, and call for those involved in "corruption to be dealt with "at-the-fire-at -the-gate!" My calls for "accountability " and "leadership" from our leaders have no "color" or "origin," as the country comes before any "politician" or the "sycophants" that suppot them! Yet, I am sure that wouldn't put your mind at "ease" as you are clearly more concern about adding "fire" and see "blood" to an already heated battle between GB and MJ for leadership! If that is your cup-of-tea, it is up to you! I am here just to see the people get their "justice" and sound\honest "representation " from their leaders!

The WPP a one distraction. We want the Rolls Royce investigation now. After we get that, self righteous Molwyn can talk to us. The church want back the lawnmower.

@ Anu. Where do you live. haven't you seen the videos that Vere 111 posted with Gaston? Did you hear Vere and two others called Gaston a xxxee on Observer Radio? Do for do cant be obeah. Gaston had every right to respond in kind and the fact is he is not lying, the are paid mercenaries. This power plant issue goes beyond politics but certain politicians are being utilised withingly and unwithingly. Time will tell and Gaston will be vindicated by the truth. By the way, chq Vere 111, IPP on UPP and you will see placards and T shirts picketing Gaston. Gaston have every right to spank them for being naughty. Naughty little boys.

It is obvious that Baldwin Spencer has something to do with this scandal now. Why would he be stonewalling for so long. It is obvious that their is allot of wrong with that power plant.

Unity is strength and the PM has all of the opposition divided. It's Machiavelli style at it's best!!!

Now if all the ALP, Lone Wolf, Observer, Caribarena and all the NGO's were to get together we wouldn't be in this mess still.

We need leadership on this issue ... let's see who will step up to the plate!!!

Pressure has to be brought on the Chinese embassy RIGHT NOW. They came and told us the plant was new at the press conference. They even threatened to "reserve their right to sue people". It is our time to "reserve our right"!!!

I have to give Baldwin Spencer credit for one thing ... when he was in opposition he did a good job of bringing these forces together for the same goal. Something which the ALP is lacking right now. Could it be because their leadership only cares about one thing ... waiting for elections so they can win by default.

That shows lack of experience on GB but mastery on Mr. Spencer and for those who think he is soft. Check out that ninja move deh!

Prove it, that is the reason. you can address other avenues with a more convincing argument. Let me educate. China have a ton of factories built brand new, never used sitting in rural areas all over china. Companies from all over the world come to mainland china and buy these plants. map, chop, ship and reassemble in another country. Some of these plants are illegal to operate in China and sit for years never used until someone sell/broker it. The key is parts. If you can't get parts in a timely fashion you shoul not buy it. I would like to see us get out of that deal and get a really nice Siemans they are awsome

We? who is this we that know they old? not me I don't know **. What I know is when I am home I don't have no light cause APUA is down again. I know that mud comes out of the water pipes and customs is a head ache, importing is to complicated & expensive. Food prices too high and school children sit in classrooms that look like crap, the car port & library is unfinished and unemployment is extreme, especially for those who don't want work. These are what I know. The power plant is a distraction that needs to be settled now. Don't get me wrong, I still think is a peice of Chinese junk.

@ Birdwoman. With all due respect to you, your statement was'nt all accurate. Mr Brownes letter to the PM did ask for an INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OR A COMMISSION OF INQUIRY. In my opinion, Gaston has made many blunders in the handling of this whole WPP issue. He has made public statements via the media talking about his colleagues attacking him based on third hand information. He has also made threats to his colleagues to expose their agenda via the media but he never did. I have never heard Mr Molwyn Joseph made attacks on him, only to rebut some of his statements. After the back and forth challenges about New or Old or value for money, Browne wrote to the PM and a meeting was conviened. He should have never attended that meeting alone, since their are others in the ALP party who has been more vocal in the public with this matter, they should have been apart of the dialogue. If this was done, this situation about my words againts yours would have never happened. Gaston speaks about his colleagues trying to achieve one up manship with the WPP, however his actions is supportive of his own statement. Mr Browne, consider doing some reflection & redemption at this time.

John French II, your post helped me recall a forgotten memory. There was a similar meeting between MP Browne, MP Lake and the government some years ago. Just like now suggestions were made that Browne stated things that he later claimed he did not. The meeting was about the procurement act. The opposition leader, in about Feb 2010, then made a mandate that no member can meet with Government members without at least 3 senior ALP members (may have been 2). Seems Mp Browne may have forgotten this policy dictate from Bird

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This chinese generator rip off must not be taken lightly. It appears that the generators aged on the voyage from China to Antigua.They were shipped new and arrived old, worn and weary. Congrats Spencer and David the chinese are proud to be your friends. You have fooled Antiguans and Barbudans again. All you must do now is drop the fuel variation charge and be certain of another term in office. Forget about changing the boundaries, you will beat them away.

You have hit the nail on the head with your narration. I agree with you 100%. Gaston should have never agreed to attend the meeting alone. It only opens more doors for negative speculation.

It is unfortunate that the PM made that statement obout Browne saying that members in the ALP are being paid to do what they are doing but truth be told, he did make the statement on Observer Radio on Serpant show. He threatened to call the names of individuals who he claim are making personal attacks on his character.

@ Martin, your suggestion does not constitute an independent investigation and will not be accepted by the nation. Molwyn and his side kicks would want to insist on an expensive commission of inquiry with the hope that the PM will say its too expensive as an excuse to have the investigation. An investigation would expose all of the lies and destroy the whats left of nay credibility in Molwyn and his side kicks. PM call the independent investigation now and dumb their backsides.

The Gaston Browne you defend so vehemently is no better than those mercenaries. He said that people in the ALP got money to push the power plant issue. That is clear bribery. It is corruption in its purest form. Why is he not revealing those persons? It has been several weeks if not more since Gaston made that statement. Why is he defending those corrupt ALP officials? Why would Gaston deliberately say he knows ALP officials have been bribed, and then never utter a word as to who they are. He is defending corruption, like it or not. I think that Gaston should either come forward with what he knows, or he should be charged as an accessory to that crime. He is no better than the rest.

Clearly, you seemingly do not comprehend the comments of CLASSICUS nor those of the other commentators, nor what Caribarena had reported in iots news portal.

With respect, and since you are a Birdwoman, it might be better if you would get a beak, some feathers and a pair of wings and fly away from this website.

Any Leadership ticket with Gail will be a big winner. However, not with her as Deputy! She has to be the Leader! Maulwyn and them need to realize their time done up! What about Gail as Leader and Teko as deputy?

After all the bad things that were said about Gaston by the "paid mercenaries" they are now whining and licking their wounds. If you live in a glass house dont throw stones.

This statement by BS is so ironic "admitting engines indeed have problems and they are performing".How many of them are performing and what efficiency? Those engines are either out of service or under performing.

Dig It. Molwyn could never, never lead the ALP. An independent investigation is just what it is an independent investigation in which reputable individuals selected by the PM and opposition leader wills serve. If there after any wrong doing is found then, a commission inquiry may be appropriate. You guys just want to ** up Gaston to promote Molwyn for leadership. everything the guy does, you ego-syntonic buffoons find fault. Gaston is the best person to take the ALP to victory. ALP needs Gaston Browne.

Gaston has shown PM Spencer a way out of this Scandle ,just like the Fencing Investigation!!!!
Get a few cronies and a mercenary Engineer to compile a report and say the Engines are NEW..
That can give Gaston an edge in a leadership fight if Lester steps down. Dr Bs can beat Labor anytime with Lester as Leader..Gston can also Help BRING a UPP Victory with ASOT! A Molwyn/ Gail ticket is Labor all the way with at least 14 seats!!!!!

This is the ultimate "betrayal!" There is no "recordings" of this meeting between the PM and GB, and the PM is to free to "speculate?" Quote:

“He (Browne) went sometime ago as far as to say… that they have a bunch of people within the Antigua Labour Party who are paid to do what they are doing.”

That is a very "strong" statement that some would say should be a "defamation" suit! Mr. Chairman, this is not about "foolishness," it is about protecting your "character" and "reputation," which is now all speculation and running a muck in the hands of your opponent! Now, after six months, the PM is telling the people thatQuote:

the engines are new engines and they are performing.

Guess he sees no form of Opposition in his way from those who are supposed to be acting on behalf of the concern people of this country!

@ classicus. The PM never quoted Gaston as saying anything and as Gaston says the man is free to speculate. Do you guys want an investigation or you dont ? What if the PM had said that Gaston told him that the engines are new, you would automatically believe ? I am sorry that Spencer did not add more and divide you ego-syntonic bufoons.

Notes From A Native Son Of the Rock. This should serve as a most powerful and sobering lesson to the Chair/Deputy Leader and his merry band of "comrades" in "The Gang of Four".
The Chair has been working empirically, by trial and error, by learning his job and experimenting. He was rational. He was always keen to get on. He was never guilty, he would say of "vaunting ambition, which o'erlaeaps itself and falls on the other side"
Sadly only a fool breaks his own heart when he forgets that there is no I in team. A Word To The Wise.
Quote:

ACCEPTANCE/CONFIDENCE/FREE WILLIt therefore, behoves those seeking or aspiring to public office, to know that special emphasis may first be placed on establishing …CREDIBILITY winning the “…acceptance, confidence and good will of the electorate. These must be concretized by honesty, good intentions, reflected in noble deeds. Such may ensure ELECTABILTY, further cemented by convincing assurances of “…ACHIEVABILITY” and timely “…DELIVERABILITY” on electoral promises, void of deceit. - Rawlston Pompey

The Chair/Deputy must never be encouraged to attend such meetings alone and without Counsel.

I think it is a shame that Robin wants to be Leader of the ALP and so forceful about the WPP - when he rolled over the previous agreement to APC in 2003!

That should be the next "deal" to be independently investigated! maybe if the UPP is clever enough they could get the investigation to include this deal?

In the mean time I suggest my friend David Shaolin gets a good lawyer! Maybe he could get a reference from our Dear friend Asot?

Look at injunctions! Lard me belly!

It seems that the Good lady has in deed left for the USA! Hope she continues to Blog! Hate to miss her comedic rants!

PM Spencer had revealed what might now be reasonably seen as a clear case of treachery and buffoonery on the part of MP Gaston Browne.

This usually happened to opportunistic people and those who were indecisive and sitting fences. In any group, it is about unity of purpose, one accord and speaking with one voice, not twisted tongue and glib talks.

See CLASSICUS' earlier comments to Gaston letter struck chord and PM Spencer's reply to Browne's letter.

Both Browne and Spencer appeared to be at variance as to what really transpired at the meeting. Who is to be believed? We are told that the meeting was informative.

But meetings where no participants could say it was cordial, fruitful and outcome was receptive, often ended in confusion and doubts.

From this picture it looks like Dr Dr is in need of a laxative immediately!

Mr. Spencer, if the engines are new and that they are performing, then how come at one point recently, as many as five of the engines were off line? If the problems APUA is facing with the engines have nothing to do with whether the engnes are old or new, then tell us what is causing the problem. Dr. Dr., every time you open your mouth, you put your feet in it. It is time that you start the engine of your brain before you put your mouth in gear. You are simply the duncest Phd. in the world. It is clear that your Phd. stands for 'Permanent Head Damage'.
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Dr. Dr. can say what he like! Maybe Brown "almost" told him he liked his pink shirt?

Maybe he "almost" told Brown that many of his Cabinet colleagues don't believe the engines are new?

Maybe he "almost" told Brown that he believes that Shoul advised him badly on this one?

Maybe Brown "almost" told him that when the Independent Investigation is completed Antiguans and Barbudans will forget about the results?

Maybe he "almost" told Brown that Shoul told him that the engines are indeed old?

Maybe he "almost" told Brown that one of his Senior Party colleagues got "tons" of money from the former "roll-over" generator deal?

This is all "almost" so funny?

New or used is an issue, because our Government has repeatedly told us that they're new. So if they are actually used, that means the Government has been lying to the public.

Value for money is also important and as the PM admitted (The prime minister admitted that the engines do indeed have problems), it certainly seems the engines are not performing as they should.

I think the public of Antigua can say with a high degree of certainty is that everything at the WPP is not as it should be and somewhere along the line the public has been deceived.

What does a politician and/or Chinese have in common....they both tell lies for a living.

Congratulations to Gaston for getting the investigation moving. The irony is, now that the PM is looking to have the independent investigation, the hawkish elements in the ALP dont want any investigation. They are now looking at ways in which they could frustrate having an independent investigation. PM Spencer call the investigation and embar** them.

Tired of this power plant thing. That is the only thing Caribarena can make news with

Like I said in an earlier post a few days ago that that statement by GB was going to come back and bite him: "Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer says Chairman of the Opposition Antigua Labour Party Gaston Browne has all but told him that he is convinced that what his colleagues in opposition are saying about the Wadadli Power Plant (WPP) “are absolute lies.....He (Browne) went sometime ago as far as to say… that they have a bunch of people within the Antigua Labour Party who are paid to do what they are doing.”
Gaston has been played like a fiddle; if the PM thinks that he does not have to give an account to 80K plus citizens, what makes him think that the PM will submit to his wishes?

The new/ old is an issue, since the PM insist they are new and we knowthey are old.

“I want to reassure you that those engines are new engines and they are performing,” he said. wooot there it is! "BRAND SPANKING" if they dont work take them back to the store you bought them from.

Gaston may have been played, also I agree with browne that new or used is not the issue. If they used that will come out eventually. Are they worth $47 million and if not how much.

I guess if worthless CDs are the #1 export, one could only expect that worthless generators would be the #1 import.

Why is it that Antiguans think that the rules are only suspended for them?

If there are people "within the Antigua Labour Party who are paid to do what they are doing.” that money almost certainly came from the Stanford investors.

Where are Wait and **less? Shouldn't they be getting that money back?