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Joseph Responds to Trio

Joseph responds to trioAntigua St John's - Senior ALP member Molwyn Joseph has responded to the recent call for unity within the Antigua Labour Party by ALP members Gaston Browne, Steadroy “Cutie” Benjamin, and leader Lester Bird regarding the Wadadli Power Plant.

The trio called for increased unity on the issue, and demanded an end to the “cannibalization” by some members of the opposition.



MP Molwyn Joseph recounted that back in December it was him and Robin Yearwood that raised issues about the plant concerning cost, operation and condition at that time.

Joseph said he has long taken a public position on the matter with the interest of the public at heart and he could not understand the deputy leader’s statements.

“I never thought that I was being divisive. I thought I was performing my duties as an opposition member of parliament. Whenever I speak as a politician I speak for the people who elected me and in the interest of all people of Antigua and Barbuda,” Joseph said.

Joseph added that he takes a certain amount of pride in saying that he has contributed significantly to the debate and the dissemination of information on the matter to the people of Antigua.

“I do not understand the statement of the deputy leader. He has had the same opportunity as I had to do his investigation and probing to find out what happened between Antigua, China and the company. I am flabbergasted that any of my efforts could be seen in any way other than serving the interest of the people with the consequence of putting the ALP in a better light in terms of its responsibility as an opposition,” he said.

The former government minister also noted that several individuals within the party have decided that instead of joining the fight to make the government accountable, they have taken something of a neutral position.

Further, Joseph said he took offense to an alleged statement made by the ALP chairman that the people promoting the idea that the engines are old are paid mercenaries.

“I would interpret that to mean that he does not support the view that the plants are old, which he has the right to because he claims not to have seen evidence,” he said. “I have seen evidence and I trust my judgment… so we differ on that.”

He said documents requested of the government still remain missing, and the submission of these could have put a rest to the situation had they all been submitted to the House at the last sitting in late May.

“I am at a loss to understand why my effort to dig deep and to force the government to account could be anything but constructive,” Joseph said.

It was also noted that a group from within the ALP has been on the ground for over six months speaking on the matter and Gaston Brown could have used the same opportunities as these people, without restriction, to express his position from the onset.

“If at this point the party is now seeing the importance of uniting behind this issue then it is indeed a positive development because it is clear that the expenditure of US$47 million by the government being done illegally without parliamentary approval and almost in secret, with no public documents and the restrictions of visiting the plant, makes it the most important issue of accountability in the country,” he said.



“The bottom line for me is that if the ALP is going to unite and join those of us in the fight, I more than welcome everybody not only in the party but the country to make sure that the government is forced to account. That is the issue… one of accountability.”

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too thin skin

#53 outofantigua » 2012-06-21 00:05

Fred! where is the evidence that Mr. Joseph is attacking Gaston. Listen if u cant stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. your advise to mr. brown though well intentioned is basically simple, and Gaston must have run this thought threw his plans of action on the WPP. the people are not as foolish as u politicians think , we do want to see strength in leaders and welcome the battles for leadership, in this business only the strong survives.and the cream of the party will rise to the top.and in this case its detrimental to the country's rebirth.I personally believes that it will take Lester's political savvy and expertise to defeat the UPP leadership.and the first order of now is to take control of the country. reorganizing the working leaders is easily done by ministerial appointments. later someone will emerge to command both party and country.meanwhi le the ALP must unite and stand behind their present LEADER for the one common goal , removing the currupt UPP fron governing Antigua & Barbuda.
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#52 I.R » 2012-06-20 18:27

Peter you are clearly loyal to gaston. There is really no need to attack mr Joseph. gaston was silent for a long while and during that time mr Joseph brought the fencing and now the power plant issue to forefront. You attack him about the Royce. don't u remember both gentlemen got a hefty contribution from the texan for being hard and tough negotiators.  both parties are flawed but for now let's concentrate on that 47 million power plant.  it matters not who is yelling fire. The country is clearly burning.
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Wow

#51 It Is Me » 2012-06-20 17:41

I can't understand why their is an issue with this Wadadli Power Plant within the oppositon ALP. It is AMAZING!!!

A new company was formed 4 months AFTER the contract was already signed to supply the engines for the Wadadli power plant. RED FLAG!!!

The deal was never debated in Parliament. RED FLAG!!!

The engineers that went to China got bamboozled and ended up on site seeing tours ... they finally inspected one engine and the engine was giving problems yet they still gave it a blessing??? BRIGHT RED FLAG!!!

The APUA engineers asked the board to pay for independant engineers to over see the project and the board refused. RED FLAG!!!

The Wadadli power plant prices are quoted differently all over the internet. RED FLAGS!!!

Then comes the infamous Caribarena pictures of old looking oil soaked engines, pipes tied up with cloth and serial numbers with paint on them. BIG RED FLAG!!!

No media outlet has been allowed to visit the Wadadli power plant since Caribarena put up their pictures. RED FLAG!!!

That is way too many RED FLAGS!!! Even the blind can see something is wrong here!!!
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@ Maulwyn

#50 David Shaolin » 2012-06-20 17:32

If you guys are shown that the engines were bought new, then will you get Gaston to drop the "value for money" argument?
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@ Robin

#49 Family Guy » 2012-06-20 17:20

WHERE IS ROBIN IN ALL OF THIS DEBATE? REMEMBER HE IS THE ONLY ALP POLITICIAN WITH ENOUGH BALLS TO COME OUT NOW AND CHALLENGE LESTER!

WHERE IS LESTER IN ALL OF THIS?

WHERE IS ASOT?

CARIB ARENA NEEDS TO INTERVIEW ALL OF THESE PLAYERS TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS MESS!
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#48 Eric » 2012-06-20 16:42

Molwyn – If you really want accountability that would be a good thing – but is that what you really want? Or is it self-Righteousn ess? You are fighting for leadership of your party and you think at this stage it sounds good and politically expedient to claim your interest is the people.
Challenge you – if you are really for accountability – then start accounting – tell us the truth about the xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
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...Cirque de la Antigua...

#47 Jumbee Picknee » 2012-06-20 15:55

Greetings folks, the ALP is providing some great performances for the first act of "Cirque de la Antigua," SHADOW BOXING...This is plain and simple a "Power Play" for the leadership of the ALP. In politics, the trick is to throw as much mud/dirt at your opponent with the hopes, that enough will still, so that they can look like "a pig in it's sty." Molwyn is hurting because Gaston has more "Power Play's" than himself and is scoring more points with the electorates. Gaston will win in Point/Villa, however, in order for him to become the next Prime Minister if and IF is the optimum word here, ALP should win the next General Elections; Gaston knows, that, a seat is won by less than 10 votes in some instances, therefore, in order for him to help the ALP, he MUST appear to be at odds with the present leadership, know that the undecided/indep endent voters who gave UPP their last two victories are fed up with both political parties, so, he Gaston has to appear/appeal to these voters as if he is Independent within the ALP. I hope that the intellegent voter's does not allow Labour and the UPP to bamboozle them with "shadow boxing".
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#46 BEEF » 2012-06-20 15:32

Don't give up Molwyn. I hear the spin from the "A.L.P. LEADERS". It is clear to me that they want to "remain neutral" but the outcry of the public is making it uncomfortable for them. At times, one have to stand alone. This seems to be your time. I get the feeling that you know it and you are prepared to stand and "fight". Your party needs many more fighters and not persons "who appears to want to protect something".
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The Gang Of Four - Rated Capacity!

#45 John French II » 2012-06-20 15:31

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. This is a follow up to a question posed to a question raised in a previous comment.
The rated capacity of a machine, equipment, engine or generator is that specified by the manufacturer of the machine, equipment, engine or generator Based On Its Design.
The rated capacity must be certified by an Antigua & Barbuda Professional Engineer if:
The Manufacturer's specification or other acceptable warranty cannot be produced;
The machine, equipment, engine or generator has been modified in a manner which will change its rated capacity;
Wear, corrosion, damage or signs of fatigue are found which may reduce the rated capacity;
The machine, equipment, engine or generator is used in a manner or for a purpose other than that for which it was originally designed, if the use will change the safe working capacity; and/or
IFF in the Opinion of The Board/APUA - Regulatory Agency, Owner & Operator - the Provision of such a Certificate is deemed necessary.
If Electricity comes from electrons ... does morality come from morons?
Heaven Help The Nation Of Antigua & Barbuda including Redonda.
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#44 Prince » 2012-06-20 15:29

Now I know what Gaston stands is on the power plant issue. The ALP is calling for unity in the party.. Unity in saying what? That the plants are old or as Gaston states.. He do not think we got value for money. Can some1 please clarify? It look suspicious now that every1 now singing a different story in reference to their views on the power plant. I wonder why??? HMMMMMMMMMM... Me honestly, I respect Gaston for standing out and stating he cannot firmly say they are old cuz he has no evidence even when the rest of the party was against him. I believe the investigation should continue cuz as more info come to light, more quest are asked. Just my opinion
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Caribarena Moderator

#43 Readyy » 2012-06-20 14:38

Thank you Caribarena Moderator. I am glad you paying attention to the slander and threats by Peter Wang Thomas. I hope he gets his act in order.
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#42 Peter Wang Thomas » 2012-06-20 14:32

I simply ask a question. that not libellous. Which politician in Antigua got a million dollars to campaign without getting the majority of the votes in his constituency ? I am not threatening him. Me normally pull him up every time he step out a line.
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REPLY: Peter Wang Thomas

#41 Caribarena Moderator » 2012-06-20 14:24

Mr. Peter Wang Thomas,

The claims you are making in your comment are of a defamatory, derogatory, or libelous nature. As such, we will be unable to publish them unless you can provide evidence to substantiate your allegations. Please email us at , and we will be happy to follow up on these claims and publish your comments.

Best regards,
Caribarena
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Wang

#40 Readyy » 2012-06-20 14:14

Peter Wang Thomas how will you deal with Molwyn Joseph on Friday meeting. You are making threats to a senior member of the opposition and parliament on the news portal. Remember you use your real name so be careful of what you say and you could be easily find in Point. Wang I know you are loyal to Gaston but come on man you need to be more restrained than that. Stop trying to be Badman when you are not. Remember the beating Tinning gave you at your younger age.
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#39 Ian Best » 2012-06-20 14:09

Molwyn is responding like an x. The trio, including the chairman never said anything about Molwyn. The leader and Gaston were trying to unite the party and now the fly in the xnt is responding publicly when no when said anything about him.
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#38 Peter Wang Thomas » 2012-06-20 13:57

Molwyn cant win his seat. Chester a go bust he poop.
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The Gang Of Four -WPP Challenged! PT2

#37 John French II » 2012-06-20 13:50

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. The Gang of Four who are WPP Challenged continue to hope that the Blue GoAB will self-destruct and by default the Reins of Government will be given to them by a "bewildered & bemused electorate" in a bacchanalian, and carnival masquerading dance throughout this SIDS. Not only have they failed to do the homework, as Tenman is wont to say with transparent and accountable sidework, they have made two of the most egregious blunders of a Party that has successfully won the reins of Government in the last sixty years - Not Trusted and not Verified but have also devoured their own by attacking the Messenger and Not The Message.
The People of the Book state: Quote:
Now the people complained about their hardships in the hearing of the Magister, and when he heard them his anger was aroused. Then fire from the Magister burned among them and consumed some of the outskirts of the camp.

First Past the Post Poilitics is a Struggle - an act of war without bloodshed. Two Possibilities: Struggle for Power or Raise Issues that have the Possibility of Gaining Traction. The Two Camps.
Heaven Help The Nation Of Antigua & Barbuda.
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#36 Fred » 2012-06-20 13:48

On your 6, I have been involved in politics other than in Antigua. I advised Gaston not to commit to the old engines argument until more information becomes available and to call for an investigation to get the facts. I do not see that as a strategic error. If he had said the engines are new and they turned out to be old, that would have been a strategic error. Even if he made an error there is no need to crucify him. Where is the evidence that he is attacking Molwyn. Not even Molwyn can point to anything Gaston said about him. It is Molwyn who is taking the fight to Gaston. Guys you must be fair in your **sment, there was no need for this article by Molwyn.
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at inquiring mind

#35 ring » 2012-06-20 13:24

molwyn done win his seat. Molwyn out every week fighting for the people dem. just because you a slave and you want your master back in office na mean every body like a you. WE WANT ACCOUNTABILITY, and molwyn ah de only one in the party dat work, so just hush ya inquiries.
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The Gang Of Four -WPP Challenged! PT!

#34 John French II » 2012-06-20 13:17

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Friends, CountryWomen/Me n, Ouadadlians, Rastas, "Pickey Head People", whether you are skilled in such investigations or not, look at what has been placed before you and do the analysis.
"Follow The Money". If anyone tells you the Plant costs 300,000,000 Yuan or $47.0M USD and you accept that, you have failed yourself. Quote:
"Doveryai, no Proveryai" - Vladimir Lenin
or Quote:
"Trust but Verify" - Ronald Regan
Take your Pick.
The WPP Project includes, the Engines, Generators,(Rep ortedly New & Rated at 30 Megawatts, only capable of 24 Megawatts producing only 4 megawatts), Infrastructure inluding - Fuel Storage Tanks (Reported by APUA to be Sinking), Sub-Station (Reportedly omitted in the Original Design at a Cost of $5.0M USD) and Technology Transfer (A Reported 2 year management, maintenance & operations contract Reportedly costing some $3.0M USD). Since the contracts are in Yuan, it can be safely said that the cost of the WPP Project, in money we understand, is $55.0M USD and counting as the Yuan continues its Appreciation Trajectory. Why is equipment not capable of operating at its rated Capacity?
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re: peter wang

#33 on your 6 » 2012-06-20 13:10

just the fact that you mentioned the rolls royce report shows how little you know. You're like a child that hears his parents talking about something he doesn't understand and then tells all his little friends at school. Besides, like I said earlier, we need to learn to separate these issues. Even if molwyn isn't a saint, he is working towards the right goals. And Fred, we all know you're at Gaston's home every day. I am pleading with you to separate your friendship and trust of Gaston and look at the bigger picture. In the bigger picture, Gaston made a strategic error, and now he is just trying to get back in the Game. no reason to tear down joseph.
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#32 Inquiring mind » 2012-06-20 12:53

Who the cap fits let him wear it. Molwyn is like a cry baby. What he needs to worry about is that he is going to lose his seat.
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#31 Fred » 2012-06-20 12:52

I am at Gaston's home every day. Thats my boy bloke.
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#30 Peter Wang Thomas » 2012-06-20 12:49

If you want to learn bout Molwyn transparancy and accountability check the rolls royce report.
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ERIC

#29 PEACE » 2012-06-20 12:45

With the information you have, you need to go and talk to the fllng:
THE AG
THE DPP
THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
And while you are at it.PLEASE GET ALL NESSARY DOCUMENTS ON THE WPP FROM THE CHIEF SERVANT (P M . B.SPENCER) AND GIVE IT TO THE PUBLIC .
THANKS
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#28 Readyy » 2012-06-20 12:10

Fred you seem to always know what Gaston is doing and how he thinks. Are you his spokesman. You and Ian are so obssess with him. The power plant rip off need to taken care of so I do not care what Gaston is doing in Jennings. Oh please.
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re: peter wang thomas

#27 what now » 2012-06-20 12:02

You are a born and bred fool. I fail to see how molwyn is a hater, and how he could envy gaston. It is because of people like you we have no transparency. Molwyn is doing a good thing, so enough with the personal vendettas. You may not like Molwyn, but that doesn't mean you have to hate what he is doing. And he is fighting for accountability and transparency. Gaston is not. Gaston is playing games and is busy looking after his supermarket. Now, I don't have a problem with him and his supermarket. But, if he wants to go off on a private business, he needs to leave politics, at least temporarily. My issue is when Gaston goes silent for months, MONTHS, while molwyn is out fighting on the issue. And now that gaston finally wakes up and is trying to gain some footing on the issue, shameless, idiotic people such as yourself are trying to tear molwyn down and lift up Gaston. I don't know molwyn personally, and I don't need to. I believe in the things he is calling for, I believe in accountability and transparency. If tomorrow molwyn does something I don't approve of, I'll hammer him on that. Perhaps that's something you should learn.
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#26 Eric » 2012-06-20 11:50

ATTENTION ANTIGUA – Did we know that more money was ripped off from the Antigua Treasury and placed in private Bank Accounts by those involved in the IHI scandal - than was used to buy the new engines at the powerhouse – Let us at lease demand that these monies be repaid before we can move on to other problems.
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#25 Anu » 2012-06-20 11:49

I read the opinions posted in this chat room by my fellow bloggers, about the above caption and sad to say that some of you do not have country at heart. Your agenda is only about party politics and character assasination. Its so sad. The WPP is not a party issue, its a national concern to all Antiguan & Barbudan. When you have a Govt who decide to borrow money to purchase a powerplant, didnt come to parliment to debate the issue, and now the the powerplant that cost so much money, has so much challenges to operate. In other words: "DE PLANT NAH WORK!" To add fuel to the fire, the govt is not being forthcoming with the information to the nation. I give Mr Molwyn Joseph the full credit for breaking the story and keeping the nation informed as he continue to get information on this issue and as for the pictures that have been circulating in this media to supports Mr Josephs claim, I have no doubt that he has his country at heart. The other ALP representative needs to get on board and support Molwyn Joseph and continue to press UPP govt to tell us the truth. Purchasing a US$47 million powerplant thats not fully operational is nothing short of ludicrous. The powerplant is a LEMON
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#24 Peter Wang Thomas » 2012-06-20 11:15

Me a one born and bred Antiguan. Molwyn know me well but he cant fool me how he fool you all. He is no good. A hater and envy successful people like Glaston.
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@ Peace

#23 aj » 2012-06-20 11:12

"WPP,we were sold OLD ENGINES.

WPP,we did not get VALUE FOR MONEY.

VALUE= Quality of being useful .THE ABOVE ONE AND THE SAME."

I saying that 6 and 1/2 dozen is the same.... is Gaston asking if we got "value for money" meaning that we should have paid less for the engines?
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where did Gaston stand...

#22 aj » 2012-06-20 10:57

Where does Gaston stand, on the Fence Issue; the Wadadli power plant issue; and all other issues pertaining to UPP's spending of our (tax payers)funds... please be pelucid on these questions Gaston, remember Mr. Gaston Browne you are either with us or against us..with us or against us...be clear on your stand...no middle ground.
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Let us stay on the road and not off!

#21 Dig It » 2012-06-20 10:49

My fellow bloggers we are too much into "mud-slinging" and not getting to the "real" core of the matter at hand! Now is not the time to "engage" in "tribal-war" when it comes to political parties! Now is not the time to be "spokesperson" of these politicians who have let the people of this country down with their "actions\inacti ons" to fully "investigate" the whether or not the WPP is "new!" Where are the "documents?" We can't have one, two or three voices leading the charge on the issue, while others and the rest of the country are afraid to get their hands "wet!" The Loyal Opposition are trying to please the public that they are "united" on the issue but it is "evident" that they are not, as they are clearly more "silent" on their position, when they should be more "vocal" in what they know or have to prove it! If members of the Loyal Oppostion really want to show the people they are "fighting" their cause in this fight to get answers from the GOAB, the Chinese and all companies involved, they need to show they are more than "Lone Wolf!" I doubt if they will ever be!
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Possible i am not correct

#20 PEACE » 2012-06-20 10:43

WPP,we were sold OLD ENGINES.

WPP,we did not get VALUE FOR MONEY.

VALUE= Quality of being useful .THE ABOVE ONE AND THE SAME.

Why should the movers of the motion change from saying the WPP are OLD to the PARTY CHAIRMAN saying WPP is not VALUE FOR MONEY.
THERE CAN BE NO UNITY>
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#19 Anonymous » 2012-06-20 10:41

Oh ! So the whole idea is to keep Gaston out. I thought we are all comrades working together.
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#18 Ian Best » 2012-06-20 10:34

Molwyn fighting for himself and those who gave him the documents. Give me a break.
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#17 wa you want » 2012-06-20 10:00

Mister Best, stop make accusations you know nothing about. stop trying to make gaston look good, he no good. where he be all these months? In the supermarket? Let him stay there, if supermarket so important to him. We don't need him. Gaston should feel shame! he missed the wagon, now you want him to jump back on an take the reigns? no man, it can't work so. We want the truth! we wan the documents! molwyn catch good vibes, gaston missed.
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as far as I can see

#16 the man » 2012-06-20 09:52

Quote:
The bottom line for me is that if the ALP is going to unite and join those of us in the fight, I more than welcome everybody not only in the party but the country to make sure that the government is forced to account. That is the issue… one of accountability.
Couldn't have said it better myself. All you gaston worshippers need to cool your hearts. you boys just throwing tantrums cause gaston missed his chance, and now needs to catch up to other ALP persons like molwyn that active long time.
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@bush doctor

#15 down to earth » 2012-06-20 09:48

I humbly disagree with you. We paid considerably more than what a new german made plant would have cost in 2008, so the least what we should expect, is an immaculate, fully functional, chinese made new plant. NEW, not probably new.
If you compare the chinese made pick up trucks with their japanese counterparts, its clear that the japanese come out on top. But at least you can make the argument, that the chinese trucks were considerably cheaper, so you got what you paid for.
But WPP was TOP DOLLARS!
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re: peter wang

#14 what now » 2012-06-20 09:47

Mr. Wang (interesting choice of name by the way, chinese are you?) would you be willing to take the word of "APUA engineers, the Monarch, George Pigott, Harney, the Chinese ambassador, Mr. Hanely".

I for one want to see evidence. Even if the queen of england herself told me the engines were new, it wouldn't make a difference. If you are gullible or trusting enough to just accept the word of chinese ambassadors or apua engineers, perhaps you need to hit puberty and then we'll talk.

Molwyn needs to keep the pressure on the government. Releasing documents to prove the power plant is new is not an ALP vs UPP or even ALP vs ALP issue. We just want to see proof that the engines are new. Is that really too much to ask?
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One idiot

#13 Reader » 2012-06-20 09:44

Ian Best (worst) Peter Wang, Fred and probably a few more are the same person who think we are all fools.
Such an idiot.
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Sigh

#12 what now » 2012-06-20 09:42

Peter Wang, Fred, and Ian Best. Do you think the power plant engines are new? Leave politics aside for a second. do you think that the 47 million US dollars (and counting) are a good price for the Wadadli power plant? If you say that yes, everything is right in your opinion, then I have several engines that don't work and I would like to sell them. The point I am trying to make is that something is clearly wrong with the power plant, between 5 engines being down and all the other issues. NOW, Molwyn Joseph, like him or hate him, has been very active on this issue. Gaston hasn't. Your explanation is that gaston went on hiatus for his stupid supermarket. Well if gaston puts more priority on the supermarket than the people, perhaps he should just quit. Even if Molwyn isn't the savior himself, at least he has been fighting, and not looking after his own business interests.
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#11 Ian Best » 2012-06-20 09:35

Ask the self righteous former ALP Minister which ALP Minister tried to enter into a private treaty with Devcon to dredge the St. John's Harbour for US$22M. When Gaston insisted that the Government go to tender the harbour was dredged for US$11M.

Ask Mr. Righteous which ALP Minister unilaterally gave Prestcon out of Trinidad a contract for US$12M to build the Redcliffe Street Pier allegedly without a Cabinet Decision or the authority of the Board of Antigua Pier group that was responsible for the construction of the pier. Should we conclude that money passed ? Should there be an investigation ?
Next episode, I will ask the Self righteous one in more details if he knows about the Mt. St. John land purchase for EC$13.4 M and the additional and unnecessary US$10K monthly that allegedly was paid to overlook the construction of the Nevis Street pier in addition to the payments to the civil engineering firm xxx xxx. And by the way, was the duty paid on the Rolls Royce ?
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is all abut THE IHI

#10 upp » 2012-06-20 09:29

Leader Lester Asot Asot Browne Browne is all about THE IHI IHI IHI

When you are a politician you do not make decisions based on your personal XXXX but it must be in the best interest of the ones you are representing.
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#9 Ian Best » 2012-06-20 09:24

Wang are you saying that someone gave Molwyn the information to peddle and he is xxing the people into thinking that he did primary research ? So he is pushing personal private agendas under the guise he is fighting for antiguans and Barbudans ? I always knew you were a fake, the people will soon find out exactly who you are. If the people would like a reference about the type of person Molwyn is,xx xx xx x
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RE: Joseph Responds to Trio

#8 Fred » 2012-06-20 09:13

Gaston said that those who went to observer and stated that he took a bribe are paid mercenaries. he did not use a broad brush to paint the party members. Molwyn is very conservative with the truth here. I gathered that the comment was a push back against those who were attacking him. Unless, Molwyn was one of those persons attacking Gaston on Observer Radio, then the comments were not applicable to him. Molwyn is approaching 70 years of age and ought to know better than to plunging the party into public disrepute after the leadership called for unity last night.
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RE: Joseph Responds to Trio

#7 Peter Wang » 2012-06-20 09:07

What research Molwyn did ? Molwyn is a confounded liar. According to Glaston, Molwyn, Robin and Glaston was given the documents for WPP as and speaking notes for their parliament debate. Glaston show me all of the documents which they give he, Molwyn and Robin. Me follow Glaston to some of the meetings when he double check the information. He check with APUA engineers, the Monarch, George Pigott, Harney, the Chinese ambassador, Mr. Hanely and some more people and all of them say the engines new. After that, Glaston say he not promote what he cant defend. Molwyn lie, he no do no research he just run with the information that they give him. Molwyn you to xve and bad minded. I will deal with you Friday when you come to Executive.
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@aaron

#6 tenman » 2012-06-20 09:00

aaron you stated:
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When you are a politician you do not make decisions based on your personal opinion but it must be in the best interest of the ones you are representing.
Let me congratulate you for understanding what the word representative means. I recall listening to a seasoned US politician saying that a politicians job is like a lawyer representing a client (his constituents). Aaron you need to consider running for elective office since you seem to understand this basic tenant better than even the chairman of the ALP. MP Browne you can't be lukewarm on this issue

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RE: Joseph Responds to Trio

#5 Fred » 2012-06-20 08:55

Molwyn responds to trio but everything he said is about Chairman Browne. If anyone had any doubt that Molwyn hates Gaston it is now clear to see. Gaston had taken a hiatus to complete his project in Jennings and the party was advised to that effect. The man was out of the campaign loupe but continued to participate in the Executive and Strategy meetings and made his position clear about value for money on WPP. I though a good job was done last evening to bring the party together. Why is Molwyn reeling over this ? It is clear that he does not want the party to unite that he just wants the spot light. Shame on you Molwyn for bringing the party into the spot light of public division once again.
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@ Maulwyn

#4 Wild Western » 2012-06-20 07:34

Maybe we need to change the messengers - so that the message will be believed?
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@ Maulwyn

#3 Bishop Receipt » 2012-06-20 07:33

Look Maulwyn, i've never heard your Leader Lester say the engines are old...is he one of the persons you are dissing? At the end of the day neither you nor your group alone can bring about change! If you're too egotistical to see that then - like the fancy car issue, the issue will stay around but have little chance of ever being fully investigated! By the way are you going to follow Lester into the 2014 election, or are you going to challenge him like Robin has?
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@ Maulwyn

#2 Bush Doctor » 2012-06-20 07:26

What a joke! Everybody knows whose tune Robin sings, so leave him out of this discussion. However, did you not meet with an interest group and was given documents to "confirm" that the plant was old? If so then the only probing you did was by their bidding! What documents do you have to confirm that the engines were old? This thing about them looking old is not "concrete" evidence! What we need to probe as the Observer has posited is to find out if we got value for money - which will automatically show whether the engines are old or new! Change the "old or new" argument and ask about "value for money"! Or are you too stubborn to do that?
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I support you 100% Mr. Joseph

#1 Aaron » 2012-06-20 03:13

Amen Mr. Joseph, you need to let them know how the situation goes. When you are a politician you do not make decisions based on your personal opinion but it must be in the best interest of the ones you are representing.If it's a situation where the majority are in the wilderness waiting to be rescued then you must put all personal bias aside and send your people an SOS. Mr. Joseph i have been with you from the beginning for i believe that you were the only opposition member working side by side with the people who were deceived by the UPP administration on the WPP. I hope and trust that the party's stance on the issue doesn't cause you to change in anyway and i pray that God grants you the strength to keep up the fight for even if it takes one person to get the truth out and even prove their own colleagues wrong then you will not be the first nor the last. Joseph continue being our Moses.
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