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Opposition Leader’s Credibility Takes a Pounding

Opposition Leader’s Credibility Takes a PoundingAntigua St John's - The credibility of the leader of the opposition Antigua Labour Party, Lester Bird, has suffered a severe setback following the revelation by Attorney General Justin Simon that an ALP parliamentarian approached the government seeking a withdrawal of the Motion of No Confidence in the government of Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer.

Simon told radio host Serpent, on his Wednesday night programme, that just prior to the luncheon break ALP parliamentarian Asot Michael approached both him and PM Spencer seeking the government’s support in withdrawing the motion from the order paper.



“Let me say that representation was made to me in parliament, to myself as well as the Hon. Prime Minister, that it was the intention of the Leader of the Opposition to withdraw the motion, and we went to the Standing Order. It was the Hon. Asot Michael who informed me that it was the intention of the Leader of the Opposition not to proceed with the motion and to withdraw it,” Simon stated.

According to Simon the government did not wish to join in such a move, and they made that point clear to Michael.

“I looked at the Standing Order to see the manner in which a motion may be withdrawn and recognized that for it to be withdrawn the House would have to vote for such a move. So for the motion to be withdrawn, it must first of all be stated by the person who brought the motion and the Speaker would have to seek leave of the House for there to be a vote on its withdrawal. After having consulted with the Prime Minister, we did not think that this was prudent and that under no circumstances that we on that side of the House were going to vote for any withdrawal,” he declared.

Simon’s disclosure calls into question Bird’s repeated public statements since the failed motion that he was exhausted and that this prevented him from returning to parliament for the debate. It also sheds doubts on his claim that he was unaware of the requirements of the Standing Order which gave him the right to deputize another member of his party to move the motion.

Caribarena.com has sought to get reactions from members of the ALP leadership on the issue. Both Michael and Bird have been unavailable for comments, but the member for St Mary’s North, Molwyn Joseph, confirmed that he was left in the dark when negotiations were taking place between Michael and the government representatives.

(Caribarena.com has learnt that three ALP members Bird, Michael and Gaston Browne caucused together at parliament when it is believed the discussions on withdrawing the motion took place).

“Nobody consulted me on the matter. In fact, on the morning when I arrived in the parliament chambers, I was re-assured by the Leader that the motion was going to be presented. I had no expectation that it would be withdrawn. I can say that whatever discussions took place, were not done with the entire ALP parliamentary group. The Leader must provide some clarity here. I was prepared! I was ready!” he reiterated.

Meanwhile, one of the ALP’s spokespersons, Lionel Max Hurst, said the Attorney General may have overstated the approach made by Michael to the government.

“I believe that Asot Michael approached the Speaker about postponing the motion as Mr. Bird had sat in parliament all day and may have been exhausted.

"My understanding is that the Speaker pointed out Article 30 of the Standing Order, which states that anyone wishing to postpone a motion must first have that motion placed in writing. He was also pointed to Article 31 which said that in order for a motion to be withdrawn, it required a vote of the entire House,” he noted.

Hurst said he spoke directly with Bird on the matter following Simon’s statement and that his view of the situation is completely different. “At no time did he want to withdraw the motion. He was seeking a postponement instead,” he advised.



The former diplomat said he recognizes that the conflicting accounts of what happened in parliament have done harm to the credibility of the ALP Political Leader. “We had assigned each of our members a specific role to deal with in the debate so we were looking forward to a lengthy and robust debate,” Hurst said.

He said the ALP will still seek to have the motion debated, and will also request a specific date and time for this to take place.

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Done Deal

#21 Look Ya » 2012-06-09 01:41

Its a done deal. "UPP WIN AGAIN!"...you know why? It is simple. Lester and Asot not going any place. If they go, just know that they will remove the curtains from around the ALP and all will fall down. And as for Everton - He is now Molwyn's official PR person.
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Natural Healing

#20 Rasta » 2012-06-08 23:12

I think xxxba should have given Lester some xi-Grade. It would have take away the pain and make him feel real good. And he would be like the most HIGH. And none would be higher then He inna the parliament.
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No-Confidence vote turned around

#19 It Is Me » 2012-06-08 23:04

Only in Antigua can a no-confidence vote against the Prime Minister end up turning into a no-confidence debate against the leader of the opposition ... ALP managed to turn the spot light on them everytime they are supposed to be shining it at the UPP ... they better hope elections come quick before they self explode!!!

ALP better get rid of Lester now ... do you think ya'll can manage a fight for leadership right before the general elections if he is too sick to run few months before the next elections? Not only will ya'll loose his seat but ya'll could loose the whole election ... so the question is ... is it all about Lester Bird or is it about the other 20,000 plus ALP supporters?

Lester Bird lost the last 2 general elections and now he wants to run again at 75. I guess he wants to win by default ... not because he is wanted ... but because his opponent is found wanting ... Is no one else ready to run the ALP but him at 75 ... well how will the ALP survive when uncle Lester is no longer around? What will they do? Don't they need him for life!!!

We seem to have 2 Kings in Antigua ... king of the UPP people and King of the ALP people!!!
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Lester Bird

#18 Family Guy » 2012-06-08 22:41

I will not vote for the ALP if Lester is the Leader...and i'm a strong ALP supporter! Enough is enough is more than enough!

You and Asot need to leave the scene!

How much is enough for you guys?
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Lester

#17 Slapping Hand » 2012-06-08 22:38

Dear Comrade Leader,

Just leave...don't even pass go...just leave...You...S ir Sir Ron and Asot need to go straight to xxxl...xxI millions has destroyed you guys...you have lost any chance of a legacy...how sad!
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RE: Opposition Leader’s Credibility Takes a Pounding

#16 Vere C. Bird III » 2012-06-08 22:10

If any Antigua & Barbudans are willing to fight for people over power, and for love of country feel free to join the Lone Wolf Protesters. Give me a call on (268)775-7201 or send me an email .

Long Live Antigua!!, Long Live Taiwan!!, Long Live Tibet!!
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What are we suppose to do "Time to go"

#15 sitco » 2012-06-08 18:07

What are we suppose to do now? The upp is killing us with taxes and the Alp is a weak opposition. I thing I am going to join the " Lone wolf" headed by vere bird 111, at least he remind me of gandhi of india, william wallace of scotland and simon bolivar of latin america.
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RE: Opposition Leader’s Credibility Takes a Pounding

#14 STEVE » 2012-06-08 14:54

Max Hurst, you too are loosing what ever little credibility you have left by trying to make an excuse for Lester Bird. If you (Max) have not shame, oh god, remember you have children. Damn it!!!!
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RE: Opposition Leader’s Credibility Takes a Pounding

#13 Viagra Kills! » 2012-06-08 11:34

What Lester Bird needs to seriously contemplate is chilling out pan he gallery wid some good ole fashioned pepper-pot (widdy widdy bush and all) and just ibrate. I heard him say that he is very much aware of his mortality. Well then just cool and bubble. Spend time with family and friends and enjoy some good Antiguan food (doucana & salfish, stew fish, red herring and dumpling). There comes a point when u just have to give yourself some "me" time. Clear your mind, meditate, confess any sins, enjoy each day that God spares your life to see.
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#12 Fred » 2012-06-08 09:41

How does Brown end up in this story ? The leader said he sent Asot not Gaston to talk to the Government side. Why not call Gaston to get his reaction ? Why Molwyn when he did not even feature ? Is this the xxxeed clan operating to discredit Gaston and to promote their horse Molwyn?
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Who cut the xxxL''''!!

#11 KC. Smith » 2012-06-08 09:35

Balwin said he did not cut any deal with Lester and he might be right!!! ''BUT did he say anything about ASOT??????????? ?? The AG in now talking about being approched by ASOT!! The Specker is talking about asot.
The PM and Asot leave today to Tampa to see the BENA BOYS!!!
WAKE UP Antigua ,this xxxl is all about xxx and the xx fxxxxen in Bermuda!!!
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Lester: 8 years on, an your still an OLD IDIOT?

#10 Time to GO! » 2012-06-08 08:57

The fact that ALP put up with this sort of pappy-show leadership from an over the hill Politicians is a serious indictment about the other so-called 'Senior Leaders' in the Antigua Labour Party. You mean to tell me with all their experience and all, this is a Party of 'it's Bird or nobody?'

Antigua needs an alternative to the tax-happy UPP, but the ALP under Lester's leadership is not the answer.
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Lies and the lying liars that tell them...

#9 Morris » 2012-06-08 08:49

What a bunch of clowns! I have said before that the damage was already done and that the ALP will split. I figured there was more to the feeble excuse that Lester Bird gave regarding the motion, and this is clear evidence that the right hand of the party does not know what the left hand is doing. It was hard to believe that an accomplished lawyer, politician, and former PM did not know the procedure for moving the otion in his absence; however, he is always ready to quote the law and procedures regarding what the UPP fails to do. I suggest that Lester just exit stage left and ride off into the sunset to write his memoir.
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Wow!

#8 Cool Ruler » 2012-06-08 07:56

Well Well mouth open and Tory jump out, but let me play devils advocate. Perhaps Lester knew he was sick and was not up to the task of moving the motion in his usual verbose manner, and he knew even if he got someone else to move the motion they would not have had the votes to carry the motion.

However they could of at least alerted the rest of his comrades particularly Molwin who I understand stayed up all night preparing his power point for presentation. They could have also alerted the comrades via ZDK that they were not planning to mover the motion for so and so reasons instead of having so many of them licking their chops in anticipation of the debate, A debate that the government was itching for also.
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Lies

#7 Bush Doctor » 2012-06-08 07:47

Please don't believe any of them! Hurst knew that Lester wanted to withdraw long before the date! Maulwyn and Robin were there when Lester told the Party Executive that he wanted to "postpone" the motion! That's why they jointly wrote him a letter asking him to go ahead with the debate! Too many man crabs in the hole?
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Dem too liard

#6 PLM » 2012-06-08 07:41

Lester “liard” Bird needs to be shown the door now. The ALP can’t wait for the convention. I just hope Gaston wasn’t party to this xxxd that was perpetrated on the Antiguan public.
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AMEN TO OBJECTIVE JOURNALISM?

#5 THE GODFATHER » 2012-06-08 07:33

Former PM Lester Bird's covert plan is exposed, and that MP Asot Micael was part of the scheme to withdraw the motion of no confidence against the UPP. But, there is another twist, an allegation by Caribarena accusing MP Gaston Browne as part of the plan. There is a bias emnating from the article, efforts were made to contact both Asot and Lester, none were available, Gaston was left as a public target.

However, Max Hurst came to the rescue of Lester Bird, claiming Attirney General Justin Simon may have overstated the approach, ad that was accepted by Caribarea, amen to objective journalism...th at's lost credibility.
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Look what u did!

#4 young analyst » 2012-06-08 07:15

Minister Daniel you are the focal piece missing here, everything i think stems from your absence on that day. So it doesnt matter what is being said now by the gg that fact remains that an important part of the puzzle was missing, thus the motion had to be withdrawn hon Bird didnt have a choice. However not informing the other members on his side was not good, he shpuld have at least inform them of what was happening.
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#3 R. Berry » 2012-06-08 06:58

What a farce, UPP playing the ALP. Politicians lying and cheating all over the place. The public being treated as fools and someone says "Antigua people proud".

Of what?
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#2 Antiguan Abroad » 2012-06-08 06:44

If the ultimate purpose of this over-hyped "motion" was to unseat the PM, wouldn't the most important thing be to ensure the Opposition had the numbers to carry a vote? From what I have read, it seems they did not have those numbers..... If the purpose was more “symbolic” to publicly highlight the PM’s incompetence, then why seek to postpone the motion and make Mr. Bird appear as the old and feeble fool? This seems like business as usual in Antigua, where one side massages the backs of the other side, while presenting a bogus view for public consumption.
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#1 Hmmmm » 2012-06-08 06:19

Since when Lester cannot be reached for comments?? and based on this article giving Molwyn the benefit that he didnt know that the motion was being withdrawn on the morning of parliment, was he and Yearwood still left in the dark until Justin Statement?? Seems to me like the ALP is imploding...... .. new blood needed to take the party forward because obviously these old dogs dont get along.
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