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**Asita Ngash** » 2011-07-12 18:39

The one thing i have noticed is that their living experience, the way they are forced to live as a result of poverty brought about by economic bracketing, perpetually denies them the ability to make the decisions necessary to change in whatever little way, the circumstances which ** the fulfillment of their dreams and desires..The women cant get help from the man dem except the man dem want to ** them for the lil assistance...
The men have become so disillusioned that they adapt a don't care bout nuttn but myself and me pickney dem attitude, and the need for this survival of oneself and what one holds dear, in an environment which outcasts you because of your economic status, creates and individual who would do whatever it takes to meet these needs... This is the reality of our circumstance in Antigua and Barbuda. This is why i focused on the elimination of impoverishing conditions through the establishment of social programs which are funded, robust and successful at reaching the individuals who need them most. We need self developing social policies, not self defeating social policing. the latter will not work, never has.... respect

**Asita Ngash** » 2011-07-12 18:35

Tenman:
I would state mis or underdeveloped education as one of the causes, it is a voracious cycle, the construct of the societies we call home; Education of the society, not just academia, but holistic and self determining education, is what we have lacked, the few pockets of individuals who are able to maintain a degree of principle over property, is insufficient to infect the greater percentage who wither cannot or do not. We have evolved a situation where good education casts money, however without a good education your access to money drops by a great percentage, and one usually may resort to measures which may be looked down upon by society, to get this money..." Dem work pan dem back". I have listened to individuals who live in the more "depressed' areas in the country in addressing the circumstance where people tend to grab for the sweet non filling things, though they want something real, in my conversations with these individuals i see that they want good things for them selves, a good home, to take care of their children properly, and so on. cont'd

**my way of helping** » 2011-07-12 18:22

iMPRESSIVE BOTH OF YOU. Intelligence isn't our problem in the United Islands of A and B but Love, humility and the ability to say i made a mistake.

**John French II** » 2011-07-12 18:08

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Well Done. Nuff Said. The Good Doctors of Security and Education eagerly await the counter positions from their Blue Friends. Tenman, that you have used their Banker will keep them at Bay if only for a Day. Let us await their entry into the fray. Reds are not Permitted in the Ring. Excellent Respect.

**tenman** » 2011-07-12 17:32

Asita Ngash you are on the ball when you state we need to focus on parenting. I must also add that when I was growing up in the 70's and early 80's there seemed more of a police presence. People were more in fear of being caught by them because they also lived among us and never seemed not to be on duty. Where poverty eradication is concerned the only other thing I can think of is finding better ways on educating persons how to make right choices. Problem is how do you fix the tendency to go after short cuts which end up having real long term costs? You have persons claiming they want something real yet they always tend to grab the sweet non filling things. I guess you would lay the blame for this on education but I have my doubts.

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**tenman** » 2011-07-12 17:09

He left school at 17 years and worked at the furnace on the estate for 14 years. His mother died when he was 21 years old. Mr Carter had his first child when he was 19 and four more subsequently (three boys and two girls). He had his last child in 1981. He had each child with a different woman. All of his children went to primary school. Two of his sons live overseas, while one lives in the same neighbourhood as Mr. Carter. This son he, says, would want to provide him with food but has eight children and is not able to do so. The son who lives in Antigua-Barbuda works on a boat. Of his two daughters he says in a completely amoral way, “dem work pon dem back….dem nuh go no wey go work, but walk and look chance every night.” In reply to the question of whether or not his daughters have any children he replies, “one have 3 and one have 4, mi naw go tell no lie fi dem.” His two sons who live abroad supply him with clothes, but never send money. “Up to last week mi get mi parcel from dem.” He stopped worked in 1984 when he was 55 years old. He has lived in the area for 14 years.

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**tenman** » 2011-07-12 17:07

Asita Ngash on the issue of the poverty you spoke of, a friend pointed me to a study done on Antigua by Cari Consultants August 2007 (www.caribank.org/titanweb/cdb/webcms.nsf/AllDoc/63EA7172A19A6608042573D00061C3B3/$File/AntBarbCPAMainReport.pdf). Page 74 of that study spoke of a man, Mr. John Carter, who has been caught in the cycle of poverty you identified.

"Mr. Carter and his experiences fall into two conceptual categories of importance in the study of poverty. He is an example of the
aged poor and his poverty is intergeneration al. His mother was an agricultural labourer who worked on a sugar estate in the east
of the country. According to Mr.Carter, “Mi born cum meet dem ah use hoe..mi born cum meet mi ole lady ah work ah estate…so
we nuh get much learning cause wi have fi go help she.” Mr. Carter’s father was a cane cutter. His mother had ten children for
his father who then left her and married another woman. Mr. Carter and his nine brothers therefore felt an obligation to assist
their mother who struggled to raise her family. "
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**Asita Ngash** » 2011-07-12 16:42

3. We need to take parenting more seriously, from the cradle to the grave. teach our youths responsibility for self and others, and self sufficiency for self and others, the mark of a successful parent is not the number of subjects your child p**, or quality of material life one is able to afford them a successful parent is one whose child, can be proud of hey way they were raised, and gyves credit to that method being the cause or the well rounded men and women they have become

4. We need to eradicate poverty by creating institutions which are available to those who cannot afford, which can get them through the day, and ensure that they receive a level of academic and social training which ensures their success in the society they call home; this of course flies in the face o industry and capitalism, but right now if we are to choose, i would suggest choose society. On the subject of "Where all those guns are coming from"; Some time ago we lost a shipload of weapons at or from the port, did we ever find it? Take your heads out the sand look in the mirror and say, My society is who i am, i am who my society is, then decide how you/ we should prioritize our changes.

**Asita Ngash** » 2011-07-12 16:29

we tout about our "so called" christianity, but rarely forget two verses, which are more relevant and the preachers talk shop. 1. how can you love me who you cannot see, and cannot love the brother whom you can see, and 2. that what soever you do to the least of these my children you do it unto me... key word in that verse "the least", not the most, your friends in high places, who can take you out to dinner and speak aloof o the very society you call home, but the least.
Every body pickney who lib ya need fe become foo you pickney, whether them guyanese, jamaican, trinidadian or what, they all live here and regardless to their national status, all will be contibuting to and recieving of the lifestyle which is created in this place.
1. stop the self hate.
2. Leaders need to take the job of leadership more seriously, and understand that the mark of a successful leader is not how many followers you have, but how many leaders you are able to raise. When leadership becomes a power trip, t is no longer leadership, its a one man/woman/ institution/ idea sinking ship. It will sink. Cont'd

**Asita Ngash** » 2011-07-12 16:21

We need more holistic centers of personal development, or to upgrade the function of existing ones such as Cubs and Scouts. it should be mandated that these groups and institutions, create programs which are able to develop whole persons and the society ought to ensure that thee programs can be completed by meaningful placement in the society for individuals who go successfully through these programs.
We need to take poverty more seriously. Poverty in a capitalist system creates a human condition which deteriorates the individual and their generations, by creating a caste system of degenerative attitudes and behaviors, thereby sentencing those affected to a generational experience of non progress and stemmed development. When everything that is good and right costs more than the people who need it can afford, we are only dooming ourselves to that vicious cycle of social collapse, when those affected begin to rebel simply for survival sake.
We have to ensure that the great things we talk about on these forum, and in the halls of parliament, and to our friends so as to appear knowledgeable reaches the ears and livelihoods of those who need it. cont'd

**Asita Ngash** » 2011-07-12 16:12

According to my research and analysis, it began with the advent of video technology; cable tv to be exact; two things began to happen, we, my generation began to be drenched uncontrollably so in the culture and expression of American media,e.g.skinn y max and Friday after dark" and two our parents were not socially equipped to deal with the challenges which that type of media represents, therefore our immersion and in many instances conversion went un impeded. Any one of us who ever had gerry curl or s curl, was forming rap groups and going by edris clothing store to buy leather jackets in this 88 degree average temperature is evidence that the spoiling o the youths today began in us. It is our neglect, and participation in the behaviors of the youth today, which carved out the path they seem to be walking today. enough cause and effect here though, what about the way forward? Outside of the mental paradigm shift which we need in redefining ourselves, we need to stake stock of our youth, and re prioritize their presence in and to society. basketball courts and cricket fields are not enough to coral the strengths of the youths, create pathways for their development...c ont'd

**Asita Ngash** » 2011-07-12 15:57

www.caribarena.com/dominica/opinions/opinion-pieces/3001-misbehavior-the-prime-suspect.html
I am asking myself, why did the police charge him with murder and not manslaughter, did they ascertain that the killing was willful and premeditated? Also wondering y most of us seem to be condemning the youth before we know what really is going on.I invite you to read this above article, and then come back to the forum and after taking a look at your own selves and your behaviors in the presence of your and anyone else's children, as well as to them, lets hear some comments... i
i am tired of the ostriching which takes place here in Antigua, where we keep pulling our heads out of the sand when ever our tail feathers are ruffled, and act surprised when things like these are happening. I will boldly say that any one of you that is surprised that these things are happening and will continue to happen, has lost touch with the evolving reality which has become Antiguan Society and by proxy of your ignorance are to blame for whatever surprises you. This society has been steadily losing touch with its youth since my generation and i am 42..cont'd

**PLM** » 2011-07-12 14:03

PLM people “prepare yourselves in readiness”. The final conflict is coming. The end is upon us… The end is upon us…
The end is upon us…

**my way of helping** » 2011-07-12 13:56

great point

**Wadadly** » 2011-07-12 13:09

Many people are suggesting extending the school day to remedy the current epidemic of crime by youthful offenders, but are they willing to pay more taxes to compensate teachers for the additional time they will spending in the classroom? It seems to me that teachers are expected to be baby sitters and counselors as well as educators. Granted, that the chief responsibility of teachers is to be educators. Do parents have responsibility anymore? They are responsible for instilling high moral standards, honesty, integrity and the value sacntity of life in their children. However, they are failing in this regard. I can assure you that if one were to take a survey one would find that the parents of these perpetrators were still children when they gave birth.

**EX POLICE OF ANTIGUA** » 2011-07-12 12:57

ANTIGUA NEEDS A CRIME FIGHTING STRAGEDY AND I CAN HELP. THERE IS A FORMULA FOR FIGHTING CRIME.

**my way of helping** » 2011-07-12 10:17

One solutions, The FRANCIS and PEACE system. Can anyone remember a young man in jail, he was 14 years old (it was a caribarena.com article), he said we wanted to me a "army man"?

Well, we need system like my systems that will give young people a chance to follow positive people, they can be army cadets, police cadets, business cadets (the youths will be able to follow police officers, business men, army men, pastors, teachers) and they can play apart in securing the community. Positive characteristics will rub-off on these youths (differential association) and there will be less normlessness (anomie). And we in society will be able to correct bad behavior in the early stage.

I have always talked about correcting inside before we try to correct outside but no one ever listen to criminologistlaw

hotmail.com, my way of helping.

I honestly feel for both victims, the young lady and the 14 year old boy because we have fail them, the 14 year old choose to fire the gun (allegedly) but we did not provide him with other options (even the simple one skyewill).

**The OnLooker** » 2011-07-12 09:57

The same argument over and over and over. So i ask, what have you done or is doing to contribute in controlling such things. You sit on your PHDs and wealth of fascinating qualifications only to comment. I am much disappointed when I read Antiguans writing about the downfall of little Antigua. The wise and blessed peoples of little Antigua has thrown aside pride, patriotism, social representation and everything else that builds a great nation only now to expect Antigua to rise and shine during a time of global downfall.

**sadden** » 2011-07-12 09:01

At 14, I dare not to watch violent movies or even talk bout violence. I hope the law sorts his** out well.

**tenman** » 2011-07-12 09:01

Dessalines though I agree with you that more emphasis must be placed on youth development and the need also to increase the school hours, your argument ignores the result of what will be caused when eyes are not present. I am sure you are aware of the old saying when the cats away? When persons perceive lack of security there are some who will take advantage.

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**Carman** » 2011-07-12 08:30

I am very concern because I see people talking about extendin school hours, and no one talks about parents spending more or "extending" their time with their children. Most people want the church and the schools (teachers) to take care of their children, but they do not want to take the reponsability to train their children. That's why we have the kind of behavior that we see today. I want to remind everyone that at school, children have more contact with other children than with their teachers.

**piky head** » 2011-07-12 08:08

more to come

**Parent Part 2** » 2011-07-12 05:39

This type of behaviour begins in the home. I'll be damned if my 14 year old had a gun in my house and I didn't know. First of all, it won't happen because he would know better than to even receive a gun, let alone bring it home. If, just if that happened, I bet he won't ever try to take it out from its hiding place without suffering dire consequences. The fact that this child felt free to horse around with a gun at home clearly demonstrates that there was a lack of discipline to which he was accustomed. Let us begin looking inward people instead of blaming everyone else for our own mistakes.

When we fail to ask our young daughters where they got the new cell phone or limitless credit; when we fail to demand that our sons be at home by a reasonable hour; when we neglect to discipline our children for anti-social behaviour; when we see no problem with our young daughters and sons procreating at a tender age, we are setting the stage for these types of incidents. The problem folks, is in ourselves, not in our stars. No amount of police can control the social misfits we are breeding.

**Parent** » 2011-07-12 05:35

Has anyone stopped to consider that this incident was an accident and not cold-blooded murder. The victim and perpetrator are the children of two sisters. From reports, the perp was fooling around and accidentally shot his cousin. He tried to cover it up by saying that a masked man entered the home, shot her and ran, but someone who was in the vicinity said no one ran out into the street. I guess because he is so young, he couldn't bear what he had done and buckled and admitted.

But the problem is where did he get a gun? He needs to tell that to the police. And to all those who are talking about the police not doing this or that, do we now need to put a policeman into each home to ensure that a 14 year old does not fool around and accidentally shoot his cousin? Why are we always so quick to blame the government, the police or anyone else when things go wrong? The blame should be placed squarely on the shoulders of parents.

**Reality** » 2011-07-12 02:08

Three violent crimes involving guns in same article as a marijuana possession charge.

Doesn't that just say it all about the country's priorities.

**John French II** » 2011-07-12 01:22

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. Economic, social and political degradation stalk all on the Island Nations of the Caribbean. Education is either missing in its mission or objective and does not enlighten. Hopelessness has engulfed our youngmen. This did not happen overnight. The Good Citizens are overwhelmed, are at each others throats and fall prey to the most slavish solutions. The young find solace with the "Bling Leaders" since they have been abandonned by their misseducation and have become the jetsam and flotsam of the Sargasso Sea. On the Rock in 2007 approximately 3200 or 18% below the Poverty Index. This number has grown. Have you given any thought much less have an appreciation for what this means in a small Nation's Population? What happens to the psyche? We need a New Dispensation. Transform Our Caribbean Education System. Engage Our Youngmen. Transform first past the Post System. Engage the Electorate in Strategic Thinking and Reform of our Economic, Social and Political Systems. Respect.

**Dessalines** » 2011-07-12 00:30

This is NOT a law enforcement issue it is an youth development (or lack of it) issue. The police cannot be everywhere at all times and no amount of patrols will solve this problem.
We need a proactive solution not a reactive one. The education department should take the lead and ensure that all children under 17 are supervised until 4:30PM and teach them life skills. It is too late once they get in the hands of the police, they will be little or no use to society after that.

**lamanex** » 2011-07-12 00:20

Execute the criminals in Antigua. Don't worry about how the other islands feel about it, protect your own. Let the criminals know that when they take a life they are giving up their own. When parents know they may be losing a delinquent kid, they will spend more time raising them the right way. The fear of death will deter them and save the governments money having to jail them. When we had hanging crime was very low, lets get back there.

**OUTOFANTIGUA** » 2011-07-11 23:54

JUST ANOTHER CASE OF , DO AS WE DO, AND SAY AS WE SAY. AND BECAUSE WE ARE A LOST PEOPLE WE ARE ALSO LOOSING OUR CHILDREN. THIS LEADERSHIP IS WITHOUT VISSION AND IS ALMOST AT THE EDGE OF THE PRECIPICE.TIME TO TURN AROUND AND SAVE YOURSELVES, YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR NATION. YOUR LEADERS ARE THE BIGxxxPROBLEM, WE HAVE TO FIX THIS FIRST--THE LITTLE THINGS WILL FOLOW.

**Skyewill** » 2011-07-11 23:07

anti-social behavior is learned. I study psychology and I also work as a Military advisor for a university in the school of Criminal Justice. When you have big old men sleeping with little girls and little boys see that. When you have criminal saying which lawyer they got in their pockets and beating the system. Mothers sleeping with everybody and fathers having children with anyone they can breed. I was listening to a group of young boys all under 14, a few years ago saying what they going to do to any young girl them get their hands on tonight and it seems the girls we consenting to the action. these are not other peoples kids they are our kids

**Skyewill** » 2011-07-11 22:59

You are correct. My aunt who raise me can't come to ANU unless I am with her. Everywhere in America is not NYC or LA and in some areas like where I live in Florida crime is very low. Last night I went out for a few minutes. If you want to see patrols. Theycriscross the city all night then chill untill 5am the intence for a couple of hours the chill again for the morning hours when it is quiet. Our Sheriff stop doing road blocks said it impeades normal people so he focus on criminals in certain areas and have even setup barriers to guid traffic towards the police on patrol. In 2005 I sent an email toabout 5 people in charge of justice and certain events. On person wrote back and they fired him one said that I was exagerating and please don't write him anymore the others did not even respond. I got all the emails on file today. The problem if you criticize anyone in =ANU they take it personal and if they got power the try to shut you off. I wonder what that person thinks now

**Dig It** » 2011-07-11 22:53

Nowadays, guns are getting in the hands of our youths like hot bread. It is sad to see these youths turning to violence just to prove a point, when in fact they are not only destroying themselves but the social fabric of society. This 14 year olf youth is just another statistic that took an innocent a 17 year old girl life. And, now he has to do the time for the crime! in that, we need to get to the root of the problem, as to where these illegal guns are coming from! They are coming from somewhere, and we need a collective effort by everyone to cut-off the head of the snake that is alowing these guns to enter our dominion!

**Skyewill** » 2011-07-11 22:45

22 is not a child and you will not control them. The root cause is the breakdown in society. Everybody in ANU BS, Everybody. Children pick up this. We teach our children not to respect rule of law when leaders break the law with no penality. and It too a lot of years to develope and will take a lot of years to fix. Mr son is 22 and runs the post office in Bagdad. tell that soldier he has to be in at 7pm. you taking chaos

**Antiguan Woman** » 2011-07-11 21:53

I keep saying over and over the parents/guardia ns are the ones who are failing they children, with the obvious decay of morals all around us,any civilized responsible Govt would realize that it needs intervention from professionals.A ntigua is too much of a small society to have such level of lewdness and downright anti-social behavior been the dominant trait of our young people.If things do not change soon,it will get worse. Although I will not apply blame directly on the Govt, for persons who would wish to delude reality, they should know that it has been proven that Poverty and high Unemployment are motivators and Precursor to crimes.

**Antiguan Woman** » 2011-07-11 21:29

Imagine persons residing in the US can now boast that they feel safer in their homes than us,and i can assure you that some of these persons do not necessarily live in what may be considered an Aristocratic Neighborhood. Even parts of NY that were considered extremely dangerous in the 80,s & 90,s are now seeing a decline in crimes. For us in a tiny corner of the world,instead of becoming more civilized,we are now behaving like the wild wild west.I hope the Parents or guardians of the young Man are charged for this senseless crime.Again,i ask What is the govt doing about the high # of delinquents on the Island,The young men just from taking one look at them, look like thugs,the young women makes you ashamed to be of the same sex,and all you get from those in authority is lots of round mouth empty speeches.While society is falling apart,they are conjuring up ways to raid more money from us,to create more paupers and more Criminals.What a dam joke.

**naiomi** » 2011-07-11 19:53

MANY OF US ARE AVOIDING THE MAIN ISSUE THAT THE ACCUSED FOR THE LASTEST MURDER IS 14 YEARS OLD. i AGREE THAT SCHOOL SHOULD BE EXTENDED TO 3.30 AND A CURFEW SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED FROM 7 PM TO 6 AM FROM BABY TO 22 YEARS OLD AND IF ANY YOUTH HAS TO GO OUT BETWEEN THAT TIME THEY MUST BE ACCOMPANIED BY A FAMILY ADULT MEMBER. DRASTIC TIMES CALL FOR DRASTIC MEASURES. THE POLICE SHOULD BE PATROLLING AND BE IMPLEMENTING THE LAW. bOTH CHILD AND PARENTS WILL BE CHARGED.IT SHOULD ALSO BEZERO TOLERANCE.

**my way of helping** » 2011-07-11 18:49

I have a plan and crime will not, WILL NOT DECREASE UNTIL young experts a put in place and political appointees are gone.

But police and community will have to come off their behinds (bottom), they will have to communicate, and they will have to listen. We are all police, uniformed and plain, working together (FRANCIS and PEACE system policing).

We can decrease crime, contact us at criminologistlaw

hotmail.com

j » 2011-07-11 18:48

@ Skywell, I can remember when villages in Antigua used to be that way. I could not go anywhere and miss behave because the elders in the family would get me. Now parents want to be their kids friends and party with them, no more extended families. We want to be so much like the US that we have taken on their bad habits too.

**Skyewill** » 2011-07-11 17:43

I have been in my hood for 13 and not one in my small area either. i work from home at lease 3 days a week so I look out and all the residences have each other phone numbers and if a strange car come into the area we call each other and track it until they leave of get arrested. I know every Police officer in my city. They come by if I am out of town. we have no road blocks because it adds to the stress between good citizens and the police so the police instead patrol. we also have citizen on patrol units

**Skyewill** » 2011-07-11 17:38

Children learn from adults and others in the community they live in. Our men treat women like___________ so young boys pick that up. oprant conditioning and observational learning. When you have politicians getting with all kinds of crimes what make you think the kids don't pick up on that. you get a way with stuff so why can't we. No work there so why not rob All human behavior is learned and what you see is a reflextion on the adult community

**Skyewill** » 2011-07-11 17:32

Cause they too busy doing road blocks while trying to convince me that this is a bright new idea and some of these people telling me this is a good idea. Could you see how a road block could have caught a 14 year old in this case. You need a whold lot more than road blocks to save Antigua in fact i don't like the idea. OK let's turn the country into a police state. we need real police work, Chances in the law and the way police work and stop protecting the real criminals. fixing the economy and creating jobs for the youth.

j » 2011-07-11 17:16

Antigua could be compared to the township i live in. Some areas (Village) have a higher crime rate than others. For instance there have not been a murder in the 14 years I have lived here, but just up the street in the next village they have several so when you look at the township there is a distorted view of crime as far as my village is concern. I feel safe in my village as we report any and all suspicious activity.

j » 2011-07-11 17:09

When parents start being parents and neighbor looking out for each other then crime will be minimize. When people are the afraid to report crime the terrorist (criminals) wins.

**Proud ANU Queen** » 2011-07-11 16:38

Could someone pleasse tell me where a 14 year old would get a .38 revolver from? I have a 14 year old, and I still see him as a baby and still innocent to some things; how did a 14 year become so callous and cold with no regard for the sanctity of human life.

Please, our youth need help! Do we still have Cubs Scout, and Boys Scout? Parents, please sign up your little ones at an early age, so that they get some structure and discipline outside of the home, and please, teach them the value of life.

We need a Big Brother type of program for our young boys...we are losing them to the streets. Heaven help us all.

**lamanex** » 2011-07-11 16:32

There are no comparison of Antigua to America. Antigua is 108 sq. miles surrounded by water, there is not too far for criminals to go and escape. In America they can drive from state to state with no check point, each state has its own problems, yet will work with each other to capture criminals from other state. Why can't little Antigua cops control their 108 sq. miles?.

**wada** » 2011-07-11 16:08

Murder number 8, wow, putting aside all the politicking, how can we help? In neighbouring St.Kitts, they recorded their 20th murder, 4 murders alone last week. From personal accounts, it is almost, if not already, out of control. Are we beginning to see the type of senseless crime here too? Why would someone be shot walking on a main road. Is this a crime of rite, where in order to get stripes or gang membership, you kill the next person you see on the road regardless of his/her innocence? We should all be worried.

GQ » 2011-07-11 16:07

I hate when anyone tries to compare Antigua 108 with the great America, yes we know these things happen in the USA and you expect it to happen but in Antigua these are crimes we are not a custom to and am telling you now, you feel much safer and more free in the USA than Antigua right now.
I even heard Shandler Codrington doing the same comparison with unemployment and the economy, but what he failed to realize there are many assistant and benefits put in place by the U S government to help eg unemployment, food stamps, low income housing, tax return,free job service & training. Do Antiguans have any of these benefits? so Mr minister Codrington stop trying to match Antigua with America and find ways to help the people who voted for you and the nation of Antigua and Barbuda.

**lethal.** » 2011-07-11 15:28

j, thank you, that's #2 hot spot. i will not step there. oh by the way there is no more middle class. you either at the top, or you at the bottom. :sigh:

**jlt** » 2011-07-11 15:22

The city where you live probably has a higher crime rate than Antigua. Look at your own neighborhood and stay out of ours.

j » 2011-07-11 14:58

@ Lethal
When you come to Chicago or any major city in the USA you are also gambling right? Mob action on the lake front, mob action in the down town shopping district, shooting in the neighbor hoods (poor and middle class). So please do not go to any of these places.

**lethal.** » 2011-07-11 13:33

murder. robbery. car thief. 38revolver. it all has to do with the modern day lifestyle in lil antigua. it just keeps on getting better. eight deaths, pick a number who will be next, on the list. come to antigua and risk loosing something, anything. you don't have to go to the casino to gamble, just going there is a gamble. :-?

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