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English Harbour Break-in Victim At Wits' End

English Harbour Break-in Antigua St. John's - On the heels of two rescheduled meetings with Parliamentary Representative for St. Paul's Eleston "Namba" Adams, unresponsive police officers and damaged relations with immediate members of the community, a disgruntled US citizen living in Antigua has pledged never to recommend the country to family or friends and to remain only for the purposes of fulfilling contractual obligations.

On August 4 Caribarena had published a story regarding an incident of robbery that took place in the English Harbour community, and the alleged inability of the Dockyard Police to swiftly respond to the situation.



The victims had pleaded a case of breach of privacy above the matter of theft, noting the former to be of graver significance than the item stolen.

One of the victims told Caribarena on Thursday that after his failure in dealing with the police officers charged with protecting him, he had sought an audience with Minister Adams but two scheduled meetings were cancelled in two days.

He said if another were not had by the middle of next week, he would proceed to seek audience with the Prime Minister himself.

On Wednesday, the victim had managed to hold talks with Assistant Superintendent Joseph Hughes who is said to be the supervising officer for Dockyard Police Outpost, and of all the encounters he has had over the past month regarding the incident, he seems convinced that Hughes is the lone candidate in his corner.

“I get the impression that he is working very hard to bring the department up to par with accountability and professionalism, but I am also of the opinion that he has a huge challenge on this hands,” the victim said, adding that the clear defiance from the junior officers towards the superintendent had done little to instill any renewed confidence from his part.

He pointed out that during his talks with the superintendent it was revealed that the officers had actually been inaccurate with their dealings with him. New information suggested that the lone surveillance camera outside the property in question might not have been pointed to the entrance as previously believed.

This assumption had led to the suspicion that the culprit might have come from within the property, and this had created some level of discomfort that resulted in the victim having to relocate.

The victim noted that the superintendent admitted that his officers had “dropped the ball,” and has pledged a speedy resolution. In his officers’ defense, according to the victim, the superintendent had suggested that one of the constables who dealt with the case initially was still considered “inexperienced”, having “only been on the force for three years”.

“I know they probably don't have the manpower to prevent the crime and what it takes to get the item back or even solve the crime but they could have at least prevented further damage from happening between residents in the community by acting promptly,” he said. “But they are stalling activity on the case because I went and advocated for my rights.”



He reiterated that he and his fellow community members were “on our own” since their safety was clearly not important to the people tasked with maintaining it.

“That's the message I’m getting here. We are sitting ducks out here. I have to believe that the criminals in this community must know that the cops are not up to the challenge and they use it to their advantage. We should all be issued gun licenses so we can protect ourselves,” he said.

He expressed great disappointment in the manner in which constituency representative Eleston Adams has responded to the matter, especially considering the fact that he has through the media expressed concern in the rising issue of crime in the community, as well as his willingness to assist in getting the situation under control.

“I don't know who is telling truth. The message I receive, as an expat, is that you are on your own. They can come rob you, assault you and do whatever they want and the cops won’t do anything about it and neither would the politicians. I’ve been living here for three years and I still haven’t adjusted yet. It’s like a time warp. I won’t recommend this place to anyone,” he said.

In the meantime, Police spokesman Senior Sergeant William Holder maintains that his office could not speak on matters involving the integrity of police officers unless authorized by the Police Commissioner. He also notes that his office has not been brought up to speed with this particular case.

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#26 reality » 2012-08-13 20:36

stop being lock a basic and put ur self into the situation,if it was u guys got rob publicly speaking on the message that is being sent out.u got rob turn down by the police and later the minister what else is there who is there is not the job of the police is not the job for the minister to up hold his end comon and be realistic if it was u what would u have done u read other news n to me they r all the same when it come to the cops,i dont think he think hes better than the others trying to get attention i think hes doing for everyone and to how i see it some ungreatful comment but the i tell u what reaches him can too reach u and then what what would u do stop being proud and support the message the person is trying to send across.we need better protecting system u know it i know so lets do the right thing n stop bashing antigua nice so lets keep it that way and correct our lose ends thats fact
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#25 UNITED STATES » 2012-08-13 14:56

If you really read and digest what I have written.I am not encouraging anyone to bad mouth Antigua.Antigua is my birth country.I love Antigua,I also love my adopted home of many decades,the USA.This matter can be resolved easily,if the minister had a meeing with the couple.Your home is your castle.It is not a prison.You should not have to lock yourself up daily and nights if you are there.That to me becomes very stressful.The people in authority seems to sit on thier backsides,and let small things fester and become a sore before they do anything.The real world do not work that way.
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@ Goodjobbob

#24 New Yorker » 2012-08-13 01:52

Maybe you are one of the dumb Americans who are quite challenged in geography. But the last time I check Guyana is in South America.
They teach you the difference in Antiguan schools.
Maybe you like many other Americans wish it were an African problem. But regardless of where Jones or RAS or any other American commit their illicit acts
the source of their criminality started in their sick American society.
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@ UNITED STATES

#23 SlyThatGuy » 2012-08-12 22:19

UNITED STATES,Please do not encourage the family whose home was burglarized or any one else to single out and bad mouth Antigua. Crime is everywhere,in every country,so it not an issue for Antigua alone to address. But while law enforcement here is trying to fight crimes,citizens and permanent residents,inclu ding the victim in this case,can help by securing their homes with burglar alarms,surveill ance cameras,and locks that are strong and good. Thieves are smart.They select home they see are not well protected. Blaming the police for something we failed to do is not going to change anything.
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#22 SlyThatGuy » 2012-08-12 20:42

Because Antigua & Barbuda is a poor country and relies on tourism as its main source of income,this couple from the United States, angry from being burglarized,fee l that they can just speak to our policemen in a condescending manner and then threaten to kill tourism in our country. If they had taken the necessary steps to secure their home and property,the opportunist would not have been able to commit this crime against them. Catching a criminal who steals an iPad for the purpose of converting it into quick cash is still a problem for law enforcement in this country - especially when there is no eyewitness. But the notion that they want to tell the whole world to stop coming to Antigua because it's not a good place is beyound me. Some years ago in the streets of New York City,two men robbed me of $200 dollars. I went to the police precinct and reported the incident,but they did not even bother to investigate. I supposed I was angry about everything,but being from a poor country,it wouldn't do any good if I tried to get people to stop going to New York.
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#21 GoodJobBob » 2012-08-12 18:32

No, 9/11 wasn't a "reference point", it was a world. changing event which pointed up the danger of ignoring rogue nations because they seem harmless. As for Jim Jones, you are probably too young to remember, but that happened in Africa, and the mass suicide was due to the visit (and murder) of a US congressman who was investigating what was going on there. I appreciate your help in making my point. It's about time that someone investigates what's going on in Antigua before somthing more serious than tourist murders, illegal Internet gambling and $7 billion Ponzi schemes occure.
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#20 UNITED STATES » 2012-08-12 17:19

While you are cursing each other,the problem remains.The issue has nothing to do with an ex pat.It is the attitude of the police against all peoples living in Antigua.I have read in all newspapers down there.People call the police for various reasons only to have them not show up at all or hours after the fact.That is not good policing at all.The short comings within the force as a whole needs to be addressed now.I would like to know,what is wrong within the force.Perhaps someone living in Antigua could bring me up to date.Because you are closer to the problem than I am.
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@ Bob

#19 New Yorker » 2012-08-12 16:30

The world trade centre seems to be a strong reference point for you because it is not too hard to prove the external source. However do not forget Jim Jones and about the thousand that he put away.And also the crazy one in Waco Texas.
But they were born and bread American terrorists so they would not register in your psyche.
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@Texan

#18 GoodJobBob » 2012-08-12 13:52

Since you've switched your strategy to "attack the messenger", I can only conclude I've won this argument. Here's a little tip: When you employ that rhetorical devise, you should at least have a factual attack. While it's none of your business, I didn't have a penny in SIB. If you want to attack my motivation, you can start with the trauma of watching almost 3,000 people die in front of my eyes, and having to breathe the smoke from their smoldering bodies for months afterwards.

As for your experience misplacing your car, I sure hope the Oklahoma police gave you a breathalyzer test before you got back behind the wheel! :D
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No lessons needed

#17 Texan » 2012-08-12 12:42

It is too bad that you will not see much of your money back from your Stanford investment and it is obvious that you hold Antigua and Antiguans in contempt for that failed investment.

I had my car stolen while in Oklahoma a few years back. The police couldn't care less. In fact i found the car on my own a few blocks away. The police didn't dust for fingerprints and basically shrugged their shoulders and walked away. So i gather that the Oklahoma City police are co-operating with the car thieves in their city?
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@ bob

#16 New Yorker » 2012-08-12 12:34

American will not be destroyed by an explosion, it will be destroyed by an implosion.
America's biggest problem is not radicals from Asia, Africa, Latin America or the Caribbean. Its biggest problem its a system it has created that is spiraling out of control.
Your threat of mush room cloud does not mean a sh.. Like I said, there is a higher power than you.
The image you are making to the beast will come crashing down someday. And a mushroom cloud will make no difference.
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@Texan

#15 GoodJobBob » 2012-08-12 12:14

Maybe you need a math lesson: Holmes: 6 killed, Page, 12 killed, Hasan, 13 killed, Madoff, 0 killed (and the victims will get at least half their money back!) The other point you're missing is that all the examples you used were lone nuts. Antigua has plenty of those too (just look at the per capita murder rate!), but all the examples I cited were, in some way, directly connected with the GOAB, operating with their co-operation.

Now if you want to talk about American mass murderers, I would start with G. Dubya Bush! But that's another story!
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Huh Bob?

#14 Texan » 2012-08-12 11:57

Want to talk about warning signs? Here are a few names for you: James Holmes, Wade Michael Page, Bernie Madoff, Nidal Malik Hasan.....

These names all hail from the USA. Would you say that they are unable to police their population?
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such nonsense

#13 new yorker » 2012-08-12 11:50

ALLLLL a you antigua people are a bunch a fools, the man states he went to the popo numerous times, trying to get an audience with the minister on more than one occasion, where else should he go?????.I too will personally give antigua bad press on www, lets see you all eat, sh i t and eat it again, you are are a bunch.... most a are u.
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@New Yorker

#12 GoodJobBob » 2012-08-12 11:38

If you don't understand why someone from New York should be "so concerned over a few thousand stupid people" I would suggest you go downtown to the 9/11 memorial. While the attack was planned and financed by Saudis, using Afghanistan, which has a literacy rate and technological sophistication that makes Antigua look like the "Jetsons", played a critical role precisely BECAUSE of it's inability to police it's own population and territory.

The warning signs are there: Gerald B.u.l.l., John Allen Mohammad/Lee Malvo, Sir Allen Stanford.

As ** Cheney famously said: The next warning may be a mushroom cloud.
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At Antiguan Born

#11 New Yorker » 2012-08-11 20:49

Good for you that you left Antigua and are not stupid anymore. But like you said everything has a time and will come to an end. Everything includes the USA as well.
Whether or not tourist from the US comes to Antigua is going to be of small consequence in the final analysis, because there is a higher power than America that we all have to answer to.
I just wonder why you are so concerned over a few thousand stupid people, do you not have anything more important to do in your big country of so many smart people?
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#10 auddie » 2012-08-11 20:44

PS I recently visited CID head quarters to make an inquiry, the premises are squalid, no sign of improvements since I last visited the premises more than 15 years ago looks lehidike the place has gone to hell. The Officer who responded to my inquiry could barely fit behind his cluttered desk. How can they work?
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#9 auddie » 2012-08-11 20:42

I am sure most of us watch CSI on TV do you think our police officers have the investigative tools needed to solve crimes. Even if they get finger prints how are they going to check them, manually, if they left a hair behind can they check it against a data base of known felons ?
The training detectives may have may well be useless in light of the inadequacies of investigative tools they have.
Instead of spending money on useless projects the Government is at fault for not adequately preparing law enforcement officer for doing their jobs, it clearly is not a priority.
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@In the know

#8 Reality » 2012-08-11 00:59

You seem to have a problem understanding scale. In the US, someone elected by less than 100,00 people is called selectman, alderman or maybe mayor. Congressmen are elected by hundreds of thousands, Presidents, and their cabinets are elected by a population of over 300 million.

In the US, UK, Russia, or China Antgua's population would amount to a large town or small city. In economic terms it would barely be considered a village.

If Mr. Spencer wants to keep that precarious position as a village, he had better tend to this issue soon. After all, the Ponzi scheme business is up, the illegal internet gambling business is gone, and arms trading with rogue nations has been exposed by the internet.

Other than gullible ex-pats where will Antigua find money to beg from the international community?
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commonsence

#7 antiguan born » 2012-08-11 00:53

all you antiguans living in antigua are so stupid and then you wonder why tourist going to other countries and bypass you all .from the prime minister to police and citizen of antigua are way behind in time and technology on how to run the country and create a good working and living condition. in my opinion i think everyone is so selfish its all the them and thats it dont care about anyone else,but everything has an ending.it wont be pretty.you all better start thinking and stop being selfish.
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RE: English Harbour Break-in Victim At Wits' End

#6 UNITED STATES » 2012-08-10 12:27

This family whose privacy was invaded can bad mouth Antigua.Their home was broken into and their inner privacy was invaded. If those were not bad enough,the unprofessional police men in Dockyard did not give the people the time of day.I am fully aware the police are humans.However, you have sworn to serve and protect all persons and country.In an age of electronic media they can do damage to Antigua's reputation in regards to tourism.In my humble opinion and for what it is worth.Mr Adams meet with these people and listen to their plight.Please listen,I mean listen.Give them some good tangible feedback.They want to go to the Prime Minister.You and the police have the capabilities to prevent that.The leader of the country,should not be dealing with such an issue.Good luck to all of you down there.
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MP- continue to shoot ourselves

#5 tenman » 2012-08-10 11:10

The MP represents both the citizens and residents of that community. Namba's inability to meet with these people is not good and can be deemed a dereliction of sworn duty. His constituency is more dependent on tourism than any other. We constantly like to blame our reduced tourism revenue on external things but refuse to see the part we play. Though I doubt this visitor can directly have any real impact on visitors coming here, our inaction in properly dealing with this matter can.

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#4 Ah Me Man » 2012-08-10 10:50

SMH! Antiguan mentality ah go kill we!!! Listen here, the people were robbed and went to the police who didn't do anything about it. You expect them to just sit and take it?? @ In the Know, unlike the US, our politicians are more accessible. You nah see Namba ah jump up wit Myst??? So, why can't he schedule a meeting with persons who have made their matter so public that it has reached the WWW for allllllllll to see? Oh, sorry he foot mussa fail he! Chupppsssss! Look! Antigua RELIES on outside support! So, until we are able to provide for ourselves and not rely on outside visitors to help fuel our economy - hush ya mout' and mek the ppl an dem feel good enough to want to return! SMH!!!
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To "Hmmmm" and "In the Know"

#3 ML » 2012-08-10 09:29

You guys don't get it. This couple has tried to have the matter addressed with the police authorities with no results. After that, he takes the matter to the next level. Don't you realize you are still a tourist economy(sand and sun) nothing more. To simplify, if you don't have the tourist coming to your shores, you can't put food on your table to feed you children. Stop bashing the victims. All they are asking for is some level of response from the authorities who are being paid to serve and protect.
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#2 Hmmmm » 2012-08-10 08:10

It is unfortunate that this person has been robbed, but so have I and many persons that I know living in Antigua and overseas. However, the case is usually handled by the Police and not by a Parlimentary Representative or Prime Minsiter and what gives this person the right to more justice than is meted out to anyone other victim in Antigua?? Is it because he is an American expat who is willing and threating to shine a negative light on the Country he now calls home and dis courage persons from coming here?? Hmmm. If there is grieveance with the policemen in the area then take it to the person incharge of the Dockyard station, then to the Commissioner of Police, then to the Minister in charge of the Police.
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Who the Hell He Thinks He Is?

#1 In the Know » 2012-08-10 07:55

Who the hell this alien think he is that he can demand meetings with the Parliamentary representative and the Prime Minister. He is out of order! Can any of us go to the USA and demand to meet with a member of Cabinet or the President? Many times you have difficulty meeting with your Congressman. I know that from experience. This is a Police matter, not a political issue.

If, as suggested, he is not happy being here my advice is "PACK YOU BUNDLE AND GO!" The sooner the better. I am sick of him and his threats.
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