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**Jumbee Picknee** » 2012-07-08 19:25

We recognize these as 'the willie lynch and strawman effects. Neargaritist/ni ggeritist. They feed you mental garbage, then you fall asleep mentally. Zombification without the white powder.

**tenman** » 2012-07-08 14:25

Jumbee pickney though I agree with you there is a rift, it exists on all islands. This atitude is a carry over from colonial days when the average man was seen as the enemy. I am still awaiting the day when I get a knock on my door or hear of a meeting where the police Stationed in my cummunity identify themselves and make it clear there are there to serve and protect and are ready to listen and act on cummunity concerns.

**Jumbee Picknee** » 2012-07-08 08:04

Believe it ot not, and this is not a Ripley tale, but the 'RIPPLE EFFECT' of the biggest, 'baddest', boldest, riches Force (gang) that controls our streets. Years ago, many Nationals, did not see the Force as viable means of employment. Low pay was one of the main reason. Therefore, many foreign Nationals who came to our shores saw the Force as a means to an end. Of course, since policing is a community service, many community's were been serviced by individuals whom either were not familar with the people habits, yes I know, we're all Caribbean Nationals but habits and norms change from island to island; certain riffs were develped, example between the police and Rastafarian Community and later the police and other developing street gangs. Rather than dealing with these issues in an amicable way, the force began to train and use gestapo tactics allow for abuse from infiltration by criminals to shakedown, kickbacks, protection etc. For some in the Force, the lines of morality got blurred and in a changing culture like ours where money, the root of all evil has become king, many will use the force/gang as their protection/back up.

**not nice** » 2012-07-08 00:48

they lucky is not me i would done reach da and spoil somebody. i doh have time for court and them margee there. spoil i spoiling people :-x

**SlyThatGuy** » 2012-07-07 21:26

Tenman,believe it or not, no policies exist that can be put in place which will help "prevent incidents of police corruption." They can only help to reduce it. It's impossible to prevent even if the commissioner tries to instill discipline into every officer. Every cop would have to willingly cooperate,which ,as you know,is not possible. Need I say more?

**Morris** » 2012-07-07 16:51

I think you missed my point. I never said proactive/preve ntive leadership should be disregarded, I said that tough punishment must accompany it. I know this from my years of military service.

**SlyThatGuy** » 2012-07-07 16:16

The Royal Police Force has done well in arresting the two officers responsible for the violent attack on Mr. Carmond,but it will not have done its job until both offenders are punished with prison sentences. Sending them to jail is especially creating incentives for improvement in the force.

**tenman** » 2012-07-07 14:43

Quote:

The more corrupt the republic, the more numerous the laws.

— Cornelius Tacitus, 55-117 AD, Roman historian

Morris penalties as a deterrent(thoug h important) are pointless if proactive policies are not in place to catch the perpetrator. Note in my prior comment I also listed things other than simply training.

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**Morris** » 2012-07-07 12:18

Though I agree with you that proactive/preve ntive leadership is very important, they have to also have very strict disciplinary measure in place to punish these rogue elements. I will tell you that training alone will not stop those bad cops from being bad cops, especially if they percieve that their punishment will be light. I can tell you that we experience the same thing in the military. Despite the frequent training requirements soldiers still commit crimes. However, the punishment which could include loss of all benefits and possible jail time is enough to make some think twice.

**Concern Antiguan** » 2012-07-07 12:09

Why are police serving such a small population committing if not most of the crimes so much of the crimes? Some thing is wrong with this picture. Are police protecting each other while committing the crimes?

**Jumbee Picknee** » 2012-07-07 11:59

These are two action verbs, however, since speeh is not a sense but thoughts put together to try and entice the senses to make sense, institutions such as law enforcement often says one thing and does another. Due to the clandestine nature of military organizations, there will always be those within who will use the cover provided to perpertrate and commit some of the most henious and sadistic acts...The force in our Nation has been in disarray for decades. This is evident from the fact that there seems to be no one who has the trust of all concerned to be the leader, which indicates again, there are factions within at war with each other and this sets the stage for the problems this institution faces to take root and grow

**tenman** » 2012-07-07 11:21

Eric being proactive saves money. The incident above will probably see tax payers moneys being used to compensate the victim of this attack. Awhile back a gas station was robbed (it involved a police man) and an attendant killed, that episode will cost us money (the added security costs, one less person paying taxes, the gas stations paying less taxes due to increased costs and demanding a higher markup from fuel sales). The police (tax payers) had to pay minister of helps $29,125.00 money due to excessive force. Lets not forget the legal fees for dealing with these cases of police abuse. A few years ago while passing government house during Carnival festivity, I observed that the police man on duty was drunk. Eric the Denfield “Tody” Thomas killing may have been avoided if we had these programs. Eric lack of these programs cost us and add to the crime problems we currently have. This means government also loses revenue unnecessarily due to tourists perceiving Antigua as unsafe

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**Eric** » 2012-07-07 09:51

Yes, I believe we all agree that we want a lot – we need a lot and we should have a lot – but are we willing to pay for a lot? Let us pay our taxes willingly.

**tenman** » 2012-07-07 07:26

Its one thing to say we will try to ensure a firetruck will be available to respond to all fires vs saying we will have public sessions where we will train persons on how to prevent fires. There is a dire need to put policies in place which will help prevent incidents of police corruption:
1.empower the public through an independent investigation agency similar to the Independent Commission of Investigations in Jamaica.
2.The police themselves need to have training programs which seek to keep the rights of civilians fresh in their minds eg. yearly use of force training.
3. Random drug screening.
4. Annual mental checkups.
5. a program has to be put in place where the public can grade the police (provide feedback) on how they respond to specific incidents.

There must be buy in at all levels for the police being accountable.
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**Skyewill** » 2012-07-07 03:17

Thank You Sir

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