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**John French II** » 2012-03-06 01:29

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Tenman, Thanks. All have read this Financing Agreement through the courtesy of Caribarena. There must be an EPC document between APUA & BCEG. If That was all that was signed for this project, then the APUA Engineers should be made to walk the plank at either Redcliffe or Heritage Quay. Contract Documents for projects of this complexity and magnitude run to several hundreds of pages. I shall not question your research. Let me end on this note, if that is all the GOAB or APUA have, WE HAVE BEEN HAD! NO! NO! Nuff Said! For the last twenty years, This mere "voice in the wilderness" has been begging Blues & Reds, various Ambassadors and Counsel Generals to develop a Registry of Human Resources and Capacity in the Diaspora. I have gone from PM's to party hacks. Unheeded Call. While the powers that be go from one bungle to another disaster, there are nationals with the skills around the globe who would readily assist to avoid these pitfalls. There is so much talent as fnpsr would say "with worldwide experience available to assist". Instead we see Party Faithful and Sinecures with Multiple and No-show jobs,
Respect.

**tenman** » 2012-03-05 23:56

John French the contract can be found here http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/component/attachments/download/130.html. I have already provided a url for the finance and admin act. The PM assumes that parliament will simply accept the agreement, since his side has the majority. The problem is, it would have been wiser to have had parliament approve it, before hand. The longer he takes to get the agreement to parliament, the bigger the risk of it not being approved, especially with the current unanswered questions. Until the agreement is approved by parliament, it is not binding. No one or two government minister, even a PM, has the power to bind us to any loan agreement of this type, without parliamentary approval.

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**John French II** » 2012-03-05 22:07

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Finally the issue of the sub-station which this "mere voice in the wilderness" asked be raised was finally answered by the Good Hon. Dr. PM who has confirmed that it is an additional cost to the 300,000,000 Million Yuan.
In design, it is referred to as a "costly after-thought". It is included as a "Change Order" which will have a cost atleast 25% to 50% higher than if it was included in the original design. Hopefully, the issue of the High Voltage Transmission Lines will be addressed before there is a costly, catastrophic, disastrous and deadly accident. Those lines and support systems are atleast 20 years old and have not received the best Preventive Maintenance.
When I see Vines growing on the supports, It tells what time of day it is. Again bear in mind, the electrical loads, they were deigned to transmit. Just a cautionary note as in the sub-station which again was an elementary omission for which APUA is paying a high price to learn simple design lessons. Heaven Help APUA, GOAB & The Nation Of Antigua & Barbuda including Redonda. Go Well! Respect.

**Dig It** » 2012-03-05 19:37

In our young nation's history, one thing we have failed to do as a country is learned from past mistakes! Making promises on the election gravy train is one thing, keeping them is another! The electrorates have put those in power, with the intention, to fulfill their promises, uphold and respect the laws of the country! Yet, our laws are more "broken" than followed! As we have seen, our wheels-and-deal s in the "darkness" have blinded our government's judgment and abiity to be transparent! And, the sad part is skilled nationals can't see any slice of the pie in these negotiations with the Chinese! Elijah, Tenman, Steadyj and others, future generations will be left with a very big price-tag in paying for our leaders' mistakes! And, these are youths that will be left with the task of pulling this ship from "unchartered" waters, safely to our shores! What legacy are we leaving for them?

**John French II** » 2012-03-05 18:55

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Your comment that the Quote:

PM is wrong in thinking that the contract is binding.

may or may not be valid. I believe that The Good Hon. Dr. PM stated to Parliament that the Contract with BCEG did not provide APUA or the GOAB with the Ability to Decide and Approve the Sub-contractors . Recognizing that GOAB & APUA may be the only Nationals of A&B to have PERUSED the Contract Document, I shall defer to him. However, I part company. Turnkey Contracts, Private Public Partneships, Design Build, Engineering Design, Construction, Project Management, Construction Management and Commissioning Boiler Plate Contracts contain provisions that the Contractor will not engage Subcontractors without the Agreement of the Owner. If that provision was not included, and I have every reason to accept the Good Hon. Dr. PM's statement. The GOAB was not well served by APUA Engineers, The Ministry of Finance, The legal Affairs Department and The Foreign Office. That was truly an elementary error. "Only in A&B". In the EPC Industry, The Responsible Person - usually the Owner's Project Engineer/Manage r - would be Summarily Fired. Respect.

**tenman** » 2012-03-05 16:25

Elijah the law in question is the finance and admin. act (see laws.gov.ag/acts/2006/a2006-23.pdf). Yes it was broken based on what is stated in section 47 - 49). The question is what penalty can be exacted? Reading the act, it seems as if only the voters can exact punishment and that the PM is wrong in thinking that the contract is binding.

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**Steadyj** » 2012-03-05 12:10

My question is, what could have MP Joseph done in his capacity as an elected MP to force the PM to bring this whole issue before parliament before all the paper where signed?

**YOUTH ELIJAH** » 2012-03-05 11:36

Hon MP Mr. Joseph, Caribarena and the other media outlets are doing what they are tasked to do in safe guarding democracy in Antigua and Barbuda with free press information on such matters going to the public etc

I am curoius though as to what is the procedure for committing the tax payers of Antigua & Barbuda et al the Government, when it comes to contracts or agreements of such a nature???

The PM admitted at the "press conference" that he didn't take the generator agreement to Parliament as he should have yet work etc has already been done without Parliament's prior approval...

Did the PM break the law in doing so and if so what or can any of the other MPs not take him to court on this matter?? Knowing fully well that we have to pay this money back... Can anyone help me on this?

**Dig It** » 2012-03-05 10:47

Wouldn't it have been much better that the new power plant had gone to Parliament in the first place? That, I believe would have "salvage" any issues relating to our government's "transparency" and "accountability " in acting on the best interest of the people! Afterall, the Chinese wouldn't have given their people six-for-a-nine in any negotiation! They know the "backlash" of such bad negotiations, which is why they have some of the "Great Negotiator" in the world! Let's hope that our own "negotiator" learned from the Chinese, in the GOABs attempt to make him the "greatest of all time." Yep, as we have seen, in that "dressed-up" interview, his "intimidation" and "gas-face" scared off a lot of reporters and, even broke my TV set. At least, he wouldn't be in Parliament to help the Chief Servant!

**Habdeed** » 2012-03-05 10:32

Is Molwyn the author of 'Will Antigua Win- I Don't Think so' under the pen name Jane.

**Antiguan** » 2012-03-05 10:16

Justice you are an IDIOT!!! Twice dunce for that matter. Read the laws relating to this matter you fool!!!

**Justice** » 2012-03-05 09:51

Mr Joseph,

Can you ask the PM the following questions please.

WHY HASN"T SPENCER SIGNED LEROY KINGS EXTRADITION PAPERS?

DOES HE EVER INTEND TO SIGN THE PAPERS?

THE PM REFUSED TO RELEASE THE REPORT INTO THE FSRC AND NOW xx xxxxx BLOCKING KING"S EXTRADTITION BY ALLEGEDLY NOT SIGNING THE EXTRADITION PAPERS. JUST WHAT IS SPENCER HIDING?

Letter of questions Hilson Baptiste.doc	56 Kb	106 Downloads
Letter of questions Prime Minister B. Spencer.doc	58 Kb	115 Downloads

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