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‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

Antigua-new-Chinese-Power-PlantAntigua St John's - Seven years ago, Ambassador David Shoul approached the prime minister and proposed an alternative to solve Antigua & Barbuda's energy generation problems.

Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer gave Shoul the green light to proceed with negotiations with the Chinese. In December 2005, the Chinese minister of construction, while visiting Antigua & Barbuda, was a victim of the recurrent power outages.

Ambassador Shoul seized the opportunity, and requested assistance from the Chinese government via this minister. Sometime after that, a presidential order was issued in China, with instructions to assist Antigua & Barbuda with the construction of a 30 MW power plant. Shoul would later say, during the handover of the plant, "The project was conceived keeping in mind the best and long term interests of the people."

Fast track to present day, and the picture has changed dramatically. The Chinese power plant has been completed, and Antigua & Barbuda has signed the concessionary loan, but the plant faces myriad speculation and mystery.

From the legitimacy of the agreements to the technological level of the power plant, the answers are elusive. Some light has been shed on the concessionary loan and its implications, but the true value of the power plant, and whether it will become a benefit or a burden, remains unknown.


As many of our readers may remember, there was a very similar East Timor Project which included engines supplied by the same Chinese company, Xi'an Marine Equipment Engineering Research Academy (XMEA). It turns out that the engines that were installed in East Timor had been manufactured over 20 years before, were second-hand, and hazardous to the environment (http://www.theage.com.au/world/east-timor-hit-over-dirty-power-plants-20090403-9qqc.html).

The company contracted by the East Timor government, the Chinese Nuclear Industry 22nd Construction Company, installed the generator sets that were purchased from the XMEA.

In Antigua's case, Beijing Construction Engineering Group Co Ltd purchased the generator sets from the same XMEA. The following web page is a release issued by XMEA regarding the Antigua & Barbuda project, as well as the East Timor project: http://www.csic-xmea.com/english/xwzx-xx.asp?id=60 . Meanwhile, the East Timor people were not aware that the engines were used. It was only when the media studied the environmental hazards that the true nature of the generator sets was revealed.Antigua Chinese new power plant

In 2008-9, the World Bank urged the government of East Timor to “cancel the contract, absorb the penalty, and re-tender the project.” In 2010, the East Timor government cancelled its contract with the Chinese 22nd Construction Company, and hired an Indonesian company called Puri Akraya Engineering Ltd, which purchased new ‪Wärtsilä‬ engines to finish project. For further reading, check:

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/e-timor-counts-costs-of-chinese-power-plants-20101214-18wx8.html
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http://www.wartsila.com/en/press-releases/wartsila-receives-major-power-plant-order-from-timor-leste

When the Chinese 22nd Construction company submitted its proposal to the East Timor government in June 2008, it offered two routes. The East Timor government could choose 19 used engines at US$4,500,000, or 19  new engines at US$88,000,000. The government purchased the new engines. If you remember the XMEA article on East Timor, XMEA stated the project was valued at 540 million RMB.


That deal was made on July 1, 2009, a year after the submitted proposal to the East Timor government. If you convert US$88 M to RMB, today, it is equivalent to $556 million RMB. This difference in price could be attributed to the appreciation of the Yuan Chinese dollar. Does this mean the East Timor government paid for new engines, and received used engines from 1987?

But how is this relevant to Antigua? Do the same circumstances apply here as they did in East Timor? We are in a very similar situation with the same company. In order to protect the interest of the people of Antigua & Barbuda, the government should try to remove the veil that clouds its vision. Not everyone who speaks out against the project is a “naysayer,” and there may be existing issues which the government did not foresee and engineers could not diagnose.

Unlike East Timor, Antigua is not rich in oil, and will not be able to purchase a new ‪Wärtsilä‬ power plant because the Chinese power plant didn't work out as expected. Additional measures, possibly even an international investigation, should be launched to make sure we will not be locked into a concessional loan for a power plant that isn't worth the cost.


*Note to Reader: The first two images in this slideshow are NOT from the new 30 MW Chinese Power Plant. The first image is of an identical engine model to the ones installed in the Chinese Power Plant. It was manufactured in 2007, and can run on HFO (Heavy Fuel) and Gas, as opposed to the Chinese Power Plant, which requires HFO fuel. The second image is of a  new MAN B&W D48/60, the top-of-the-line state-of-the-art engine.

“What you hear about may be false, but what you see is true.” - David Shoul quoting a Chinese proverb during the handover of the 30 MW power plant.

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...china = south africa...

#52 Jumbee Picknee » 2012-02-05 16:14

free the Dalai Lama, free tibet...free the Dalai Lama, won't you FREE TIBET...FRee the Dalai Lama, we say, FREE TIBET...CHINA the NEW SOUTH AFRICA...
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truth

#51 catholic » 2012-02-03 12:00

thank you Carib Arena for your very fearless reporting. can you try and interview either David, the PM, or Clarvis about this issue?

it seems that the more time p** the more confusing this gets.
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RE: ‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

#50 ludemon » 2012-01-15 08:32

The units certainly look well used with far too many oil leaks. There is nothing wrong with refurbished engines as long as all the wearing parts are replaced and the injection/combu stion system is updated to the latest technology to minimise emissions and improve efficiency.
Transparency and honesty about how the contract was originally agreed on would probably have avoided some of the current criticisms. However this is a failing of many governments on this planet not just Antigua's.
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Units

#49 bls » 2012-01-06 14:47

Can the government PLEASE post some current pictures of the plant. Can Caribarena reconfirm that these are pictures on the units in Antigua? If so under what conditions were they taken and who was present when they were take. This is a serious issue that cannot just be left like that.
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Where art thou

#48 Sir Sir » 2012-01-06 09:37

Sir David, where are you? Please come to the defense of your PM. He is in a state of shock that his blue eyed boy could do this to him. Sir David, where are you?
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My ohh my

#47 Rubbin alcohol » 2012-01-04 22:12

Wait those engines don't look new at all. Lord have mercy we are gonna pay 47 million us dollars for that
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RE: ‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

#46 Honestly » 2012-01-04 21:06

The government in Dili has been criticised for buying the 20-year-old plants from China, which commits the gas-rich country to three decades of importing expensive heavy oil and using outdated technology that is banned in many countries.

Environmental groups say the plants will create acid rain, water pollution, toxic solid waste, particulate air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions


All I can say is that this is an environmental HAZARD!!
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marine engineer(ret.)

#45 fred » 2012-01-04 19:53

A engine that has been manufactured by a company whether marine,stationa ry,construction or even auto will be indentified with a number which can be referenced as to the exact time and day/year this engine came out of the assembly plant.So if you got a snow job it's the jokers who purchased it. :zzz
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An independent investigation is needed

#44 Garrat » 2012-01-04 14:33

I want to ignore most of the blogging here and make a public call to the Leader of Her Majesty Loyal Opposition. Sir, as an elected Member of the House of Representatives you have an obligation to at least 43per cent of the voters in this country whom themselves are tax payers. The Government and it's Ambassador David Shoul will never agree to investigate this vexing matter and serve the concerns of our people. I suggest you write to the Commonweath Secretariat in London and ask them to help us determine whether or not these engines are new or otherwise. They have a mirad of experts all over the Commonwealth. And it could cost us nothing for this exercise. Let us cut thru the chase and get the facts. In the end, when Spencer and Shoul are gone, where ever they may end up, we the people must pay the bill. Let the Caribbean uprising begin
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RE: ‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

#43 HTH Peppersauce » 2012-01-04 11:25

Anybody who looks closely at the pictures, will come to the conclusion that we have bought antiques. Once again, Antiguan's get sold 6's, but told they are 9's.

The paint brush strokes on the ID plates? If that shows the level of attention to detail by the group in charge of making them new again, I can only imagine what surprises are on the inside.
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Where are the choir singers!

#42 wadada » 2012-01-04 10:31

People like beef/plm /lmr only follow the LEADER. No matter what logic is placed in front there eyes they belive the LEADER. All the PM has to do now is clean up the Engines and shine them up with a fresh coat of paint and BAM they are now NEW BRAND!
Others are blinded by hate and bad mind that they rather destroy the economy than allow people than can perform to contribute...So lets paydoulble price for fuel on there chines gas gusslers as long as our blue eye boy gets his way... :oops:
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Where is APUA?

#41 Wow » 2012-01-04 09:16

My question are:

1. Where were APUA technicians while this was being built?

2. Why do I see pieces of wire and cloth holding together components of the generator when a simple tie wrap or hose clamp would be more suitable?

3. Why is there paint over the engine ID plates as if someone hap hazardly decided at the last minute decided to paint the engines?

4. Can't someone buy some degreaser and a simple power wash and clean up this mes?

5. Where is David Shoul and what does he have to say about this? He is an upstanding man of Religion, knighted by the Catholic Church for his contributions to society. This must pain him somewhat to see the Legacy he leaves behind for Antiguan Children to deal with.
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are they new

#40 tam » 2012-01-04 08:17

Simple questions whichs needs to be answered.
1. Are the pictures in this story of the units in Antigua?
2.Are the generating units new, used or reconditioned?
3. Did we pay for new Generators or a new plant with used/reconditio ned units?
4. Have the pictures been modified?
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We have the brains

#39 Anu Life » 2012-01-04 02:30

what is the governments outlook and perspective on our talent base when they're so app towards outsourcing all major projects. Are we that desperately lacking technological initiative, logistics and a competent labor force? If we do who's responsibility is it to address these deficiencies, and cultivate our talent so were capable of handling such projects. Outsourcing doesn't help us create collective wealth as a nation, it robs us of it. When looking at the global stage, positioning is key. Countries such as china are geared towards facilitating their needs not ours. We are crippling ourselves with our reliance on what amounts to hand me downs. Lets create, develop and structure an environment of innovation and comparable performance.
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UPPies come out to see what we have for you

#38 Ronda » 2012-01-04 02:11

By the way where are you? Eric, InterestedD, PLM, cool ruler and the rest of the choir??
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Re: Justin

#37 Ronda » 2012-01-04 02:08

caribarena have put more than 100 photos, maybe they need to put 300 photos so Beef will be able to believe what he sees, lol
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@ HTH Peppersauce

#36 woods » 2012-01-04 01:42

This is an issue that requires all of us to look at the options available to us and I guess that your next question will be "Who pays for this?", right?

Well we do my friend, just like how we are now required to pay the Chinese. And while you are paying your monthly APUA bills with the ridiculous fuel variation surcharge with no obvious returns but a possible higher bill next time. Just reflect on what it would have been like if you actually owned dividends in the company, you know 'shares'? Poor people and rich alike that use the services of a Credit Union would understand. The politicians and their cronies continue to rape us and people just keep holding out their hands for more grease to help them along the way. Ridiculous!
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@ HTH Peppersauce

#35 woods » 2012-01-04 01:34

What pipeline are you talking about? Why is it that when politicians speak their words are gospel? The pipeline idea was floated by a Trinidadian politician who was seeking to monopolize the energy requirements of the Eastern Caribbean. How does the Propane gas get to us here in Antigua? Our gasoline and diesel for cars, trucks and yes power generation? How does the heavy fuel for the Chinese plant get here? It all comes by ships my friend, do you remember those things that float on the sea? LNG is transported by special ships just the way our Liquid Propane Gas (LPG) is transported by special ships, it is much cheaper as it requires less refining than LPG which is a by product of crude oil.
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Re: beef

#34 Justin » 2012-01-04 01:29

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IF THE GENERATOR SETS ARE NEW OR USED?

Are you blind???
How can you look at those photos and ask this question??????? ??
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Anybody knows or we are just to speculate

#33 BEEF » 2012-01-04 00:38

"Do the same circumstances apply here as they did in East Timor"? THIS IS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION. With all the investigative skills at Caribarena, all the bloggers who know the facts, A.P.U.A. workers, not to mention Cabinet members; CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IF THE GENERATOR SETS ARE NEW OR USED? Simple as that. I suspect that "somebody" is attempting to stir up the water because they did not drink this trip, but then again, that is just my thought.
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this is crazy

#32 kim john dead » 2012-01-03 21:20

wow is this for real ,what is new
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Keep on Digging Caribarena

#31 Anna » 2012-01-03 20:52

keep on digging into this matter caribarena. Everytime you expose this rotten deal ABS release some information about IHI. You have touched a nerve and the PM and his cronies are trembling. no red herring about IHI will derail us.
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Re: Woods

#30 HTH Peppersauce » 2012-01-03 20:29

Only one question.

Where's the natural gas going to come from? Is there a pipeline through the Caribbean that I don't know about? A generator like this is only viable where there is a piped network of abundant Natural Gas.

Here on our precious island gem, until alternative energies become more cost efficient, our only option is diesel. Maybe a wind farm in the future?

Let's all hope the geniuses at APUA never get the idea to have the Chinese build us a nuclear plant. Heaven help us all!
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...pbs documentaries.. .

#29 Jumbee Picknee » 2012-01-03 20:20

PBS, the Public Broadcasting Network in the USA, has done some very informative documentaries on the Nation of China from the inside. They will help to enlighten us as to the nature of the Chinese concepts of business which it seems like our leaders are either not knowledgeable in or are just plain negligent in doing the proper research before they sign these deals. Yes we need investors, but we also have to be prudent with our decisionn making.
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St philips North.

#28 L.Walters » 2012-01-03 20:00

You where victimized by the party you supported for specking truth to power. There are many good Antiguan engineers who dare not speck for fear . That is what c.Joseph was sent to Apua to do put fear in the workers and cover up the china man deal.
All this to enrich the blue eye boy,as Antigua gets poorer and poorer.
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Where the Beef!

#27 L.Walters » 2012-01-03 19:29

Come on my friend defend the Pm and his cronies. I guess you might follow the leader and say the photos where doctored!
That's the new choir song....
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I wonder

#26 Anna » 2012-01-03 19:25

Will these people get away with this? a new engine leaking oil with a pan to collect it? 300,000,000 RMB liability for that? If these people get away with this, we are finished? may god help us all.
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DS should pay for this!

#25 jeb » 2012-01-03 18:34

This rip-off is just one more to add to the growing list…makes one really wonder what the story will be with the new airport that we do not need and cannot afford. Shoul’s store is full of overpriced Chinese made crap junk. Not exactly known for charm, charity and/or intellectual capacity…I have wondered for years why on earth, beyond pocket lining, this individual would be allowed to negotiate anything of substance for the Antiguan people, far less be an ambassador…just unbelievable. I truly hope that these people who have taken “we the people” for yet another ride will be made to face legal consequences in the not too distant future. At the very least Shoul should be forced to pay back in full (he can afford it) for this latest used piece of Chinese junk which equates to pollution and even more hardship/debt on the Antiguan people..
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Liquid Natural Gas is the way to go.

#24 woods » 2012-01-03 17:29

This is much better:

http://www.energy.siemens.com/hq/en/power-generation/gas-turbines/sgt-750.htm
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RE: ‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

#23 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-01-03 15:32

This is the brain child of the brilliant Hon Dr Baldwin Spencer and his Chinese Ambassador.Gues s we like it so,added to all else this should be the end of this Administration. What are we waiting for? For them to give us g** to eat and tell us its Lettuce?????
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RE: ‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

#22 uncle stan » 2012-01-03 15:31

good job bob, (martin freeman) the CD's may work better than your websites. :D :D :D
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Advantage never done!

#21 wadada » 2012-01-03 14:54

Are we going take it so,; because the PM blue eye boy involved. Where is the Observer group? Are they they now defending wrong and doing SPIN???
This Chinese deal is worst than the IHI,BENCORP,Fen ces combined.. Where are the NGO'S, Chamber of Commerces. Patrick ,and Pedro came out defending the Chinese deal at the Opening..Wa happen now the truth is out? Somebody get cheeze!!!!!!
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heigher heights

#20 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-01-03 14:49

You gave me a good laugh.But its true,SUM TING WONG.And two wongs cant make a wight.This Govt needs to really set us free,they need to go now.They have too much wongs on they record.
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true

#19 @King Solomon » 2012-01-03 13:27

What you say about may be false, but what you see is true
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I would like to say to the PM resign immediately

#18 sent » 2012-01-03 13:20

I would like to say to the PM resign immediately :-x :-x :-x :-x
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price of incompetence, wickedness and dunceness.

#17 pedro » 2012-01-03 12:05

There is more in the mortar than the pestle. This is what happens when managers are intimidated and become insecure, with a board comprises party hacks and stooges, with a chairman who cares less and who knows it all.
It is sad to say but we are paying and will continue to pay the price of incompetence, wickedness and dunceness, until we get the courage to put UPP out to pasture. TIME FOR ACTION.
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RE: ‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

#16 GoodJobBob » 2012-01-03 12:05

Maybe Antigua should pay back the loan with SIB CDs!! :D
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Engineer got fired

#15 St philips North » 2012-01-03 11:30

the government did not foresee and engineers could not diagnose.

there was an Antiguan engineer who question the Chinese Power Plant and told the government that the APC plants are far better than these, what happen to the engineer today, he is no longer working as a engineer, the PM did not renew his contract for questioning.
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Who is to be blamed

#14 The OnLooker » 2012-01-03 11:30

Alot of questions need to be ask and answered.
1. Who was the proposal approved by?
2. What environment implication study was done before the proposal was approved?
3. Which government division(s) were involved?

We will never get the answers that we are looking for because:
1. The Incompetence of Antiguans goes a long way.
2. Antiguans only understand cost and not value.
3. We are own demise.

I say no more as this is not a surprise. Wakeup Antiguans.
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#13 UNDP » 2012-01-03 11:29

Why are you shooting the Media,just go to the Plant and see for yourself"". Its' people like you who have helped a bunch of cronies bring this Country to its knees .
$250,000,000 for a useless stadium.. $200,000,000.fo r an empty car park,bencorp! I guess PLM and Beef will say its in Defence of the Nation!!!!!!!
POOR ANTIGUA... :oops:
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Racketeering

#12 Harry » 2012-01-03 11:17

This is a serious racket that needs to be exposed. The Government should resign immediately.
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RE: ‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

#11 King Solomon » 2012-01-03 11:11

Wonderful guys. I would like to know how much the contributor of this article recieved to write such an uninformed and slanderous article? You know now how we are trillions of years behind genuine infrastructure development? Journalism does not end in circulating a doubt in the minds of people by juxtopposing some "ancient pictures" and relating totally unrelated East Timor story. Does the writer has any idea of East Timor's socio-political realities? Have some regard and appreciation to the intelligence of our Engineers who oversaw the testing installation process. Caribarena should spellout its priorities. Is it going to bat for Antiguan People or bat for something else? Do we respect and love ourselves? By your lopsided understanding of the case, please do not deliver Antiguan people to butchers.... Please
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Photos: A Thousand Words

#10 Higher Heights » 2012-01-03 10:58

Having read this piece and viewed the slide show, I have only one comment: sum ting wong! Wait, did I just speak Chinese? (-_-)
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RE: ‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

#9 Oh My! » 2012-01-03 10:51

I hope this is a joke and those pictures are from some old Generating Station in another country. Can they be "photoshopped"? ??
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Thanks Sir David Shoul

#8 WOW » 2012-01-03 10:44

Thanks Sir David. We really appreciate the "mess" (pun meant) we are in now.

Can you imagine how this will look when APUA takes control? We are not known for preventive maintenance so look out.
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RE: ‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

#7 HTH Peppersauce » 2012-01-03 10:15

Why is anybody surprised? When you buy a toy from the "Chinee Store", do you expect it will be an heirloom handed down from generation to generation? When you buy a Chinese built refrigerator, do you really expect it to be running an functional 10 years later? If you buy a Chinese built lawn mower, does anybody ever expect to be cutting their g** with it 15 years from now?

Of Course not. We all know that the Chinese will cut corners, and use the cheapest possible garbage in their manufacturing, in the interest of making it cheap.

And we can forget about telling the Chinese that we were duped, and that we're not going to pay for their antiquated Gensets. That would jeopardize our airport, and whatever else we've begged from the Chinese. Too many UPP pockets getting lined with Yuan, for us to ever take a stand against this.
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Re:WAWA

#6 Justin » 2012-01-03 10:10

WAWA I believe the answer to your first question:

(1) Are you saying that the engines Antigua got were used?

is look at the photos.
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Thank GOD for APC....

#5 Jrtw Man » 2012-01-03 10:06

In the great United States there are Thousands of Private Power Plant Providers... I Don't why know some People in Antigua see it as a big Problem for Hadeed's APC power Plant to provide Power to Antigua.... Well I say Thank GOD for Hadeed & Fam... Because if the Chinese Power Plant Breaks Down... APC is there to supply power to Antigua... The Stone That the Builder rejects will always become the corner stone..... :-|
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RE: ‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

#4 Chomsky » 2012-01-03 09:51

We have been taken for a Ride...
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@ Sand Surfer

#3 Skyewill » 2012-01-03 09:42

Yes we will know the truth. It won't be long either. It is an old used plant it will work like an old plant and the truth will expose itself just like it always does. I don't even understand the logic to purchase it from the Chinese. The Chinese have a reputation for using short cuts in manufacuring. The have always used inferior materials in their exporting and East Timor is not the first. We all know it is old technology so what's next should not be surprising. Personally I believe this will be a major scandal and the sword that will finish those that are involved @ wawa your point is suspect. I believe the reason APUA is not working their is to cover up the facts. We can Add one more to the GO TO JAIL LIST.
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A few questions for caribarena.com and the bloggers who know all

#2 WAWA » 2012-01-03 06:57

(1) Are you saying that the engines Antigua got were used? (2) Do you believe that the Antiguans technicians who were involved with this project was not aware of the type of fuel and the amount of fuel the plant would use and if they did do you believe they did not pass on the information? COMMENT: It seems to me as if somebody is doing some work for "you know who" (I'll let you fill in the blank space). Why are "some persons" so eagar to keep power generation AWAY FROM A.P.U.A.? I say, A.P.U.A. should generate the MAJORITY OF POWER FOR THIS COUNTRY. If businesses could make a mint from producing power to our country, I say let A.P.U.A. do it.
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RE: ‪Chinese Power Plant or Antigua's White Elephant‬

#1 Sand Surfer » 2012-01-03 06:54

Do you think we will ever know the truth, I mean come on this government promised transparency when they were elected but the reality has been cover ups misinformation and down right lies.

The only way we will find the truth is to kick these incompetent idiots out of power and then hold Spencer, Cort, Lovell and Simons accountable for the alleged corruption of UPP party.
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