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Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

Buggery LawAntigua St John's - “I don’t care what happens in Belize, there will be no change in the law on buggery in Antigua & Barbuda. At least not if I can help it. Being gay is morally wrong, and to be honest personally, I am still homophobic.

I know they are going to ask me this same question at the Human Rights United Nations meeting I am attending, and I will give them the same answer," Attorney General Justin Simon said.

“Besides, the churches and the public will cry murder if that would happen. I can tell you that," he added.

In 2005, Simon added an anti-corruption piece to the legislation in regard to fraud. When he defined partner, he included same sex partners. He clarified that he was only covering all the bases, and that in no way was he encouraging gay relationships. But still, according to the AG, the churches came to see the prime minister over the issue and the radio stations had a field day with it.

Simon was responding to the judicial review of the buggery law presently being mounted in Belize. The buggery law in Antigua falls under the sexual offences act of 1995, and states that a person who commits buggery is guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to imprisonment a) for life, if committed by an adult on a minor; b) for 15 years if committed by an adult on another adult; or c) for five years if committed by an minor.


"Buggery” means sexual intercourse per anum by a male person with a male person or by a male person with a female person.

Section b calls for revision on the grounds of human rights. “If the government tells me to change the law, I will of course, but now is not the time, perhaps later down the road," Simon said. "Antigua is still very much led by male and church influences.” According to Simon, the law doesn’t require attention, as Antiguans condone homosexuality on a basis of "if you don’t trouble me I don’t trouble you."

AIDS Programme Manager Delcora Williams agreed on one point with Simon - that the Antiguan society is quite tolerant of homosexuals, especially compared to other Caribbean countries like Jamaica, where people are beaten or killed over their sexual preference. According to Williams, the buggery law certainly does not interfere with her work at the AIDS Secretariat as far as homosexuals not coming forward for medical aid when they need it.

So far, human rights have not been violated when it comes to stipulation b. “The buggery law is not being implemented when it concerns consensual sex, but only in regard to a criminal case, like rape, as far as I know, so you could wonder why even bother taking it off the books?" Williams said. Right after that statement, however, she pointed out that if it is off the books, there is no longer room to use the law at a whim in regard to human rights.

Director of Public Prosecution (DPP) Anthony Armstrong admitted that in his four years in that position, he has had some cases in regards to buggery, but these were criminal cases and not consensual sex cases.

Person A, who is gay, would like the buggery law where it comes to stipulation b off the books. “It feels like an infringement on my rights as a human. The right to choose who I make love to and how," he said. Person B, who is also gay, shared that sentiment. They both agree that Antiguans are reasonably tolerant toward gays.

“We had a diva pageant last year, and I can walk the streets without harassment,” said person A, “but that does not go for all gays. At our support group meetings, we do share stories of discrimination and violence. You don’t hear about it in the news, because we don’t report it. A friend of mine did, and was chased out of the police station."

Person B added that the support group consists of gays from different Caribbean islands. When asked to give an estimate of the number of gays in Antigua, Person A said it would be in the hundreds. Person B explained that not all of them are a part of the support group. Some are actually still married and living a double life.


The support group for gays has been discussing the buggery law, and will do so again at its next meeting. “We are really not sure how to proceed, but we do need to find a way to get the law changed," Person A said.


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RE: NEAL

#62 SMH » 2011-10-09 20:56

WELL SAID!!
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Interested Party

#61 Neil » 2011-10-08 10:57

Hopefully I can write this without anger.

There are three main religious books that all speak of 'one God' (The Bible, The Koran, and The Torah). Supposedly, they speak of the same GOD. They all tell of the love we should have for each other other. There is no mention of HATE. They all claim to be the word of God, yet each was written by MAN, interpreted by MAN, used by MAN, and ABUSED by MAN. Using these three books, MAN had done more destruction to human life on this earth than all natural disasters combined.

Therefore, I have to conclude that anyone that uses one of these books to justify the persecution, enslavement, killing, or demeaning of another person has no claim to use the name Christian, Muslim, or Jew. I have a few choice names that can be used instead. (Try A__hole, Dip S__t, F__king Idiot, or fill in with one of your own.

I am sure that any name you can come up with applies to AG.
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Say What

#60 SMH » 2011-10-07 15:41

Why when it comes to religion, Christains NEVER can seem to be able or want to answer question that is pose by others with different ideas/ believes? How come all they do is throw the Bible at you (keep in mind that Bible is translated)? If you are so sure within youre faith please (Say what) answer the questions that was been asked of you?Maybe if we keep our minds open and be HONEST we can have a DISCUSSION!! MAYBE??!!!!
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RE:Iron

#59 SMH » 2011-10-07 15:34

Iron well said! Right on!
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MikeLM

#58 not important » 2011-10-07 12:37

You are not only a fool but a **gat,keep your dumb assertions to yourself. Bugger till you cant do it no more,no one cares,but r you nar get no right from agua law .you brilliant idiot.
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re- Brooklyn

#57 HC » 2011-10-07 09:24

Is Brooklyn that clsoe to hell?????
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resist the antichrist

#56 steve » 2011-10-06 20:40

antigua will not lie in bed with that
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#55 Brooklyn » 2011-10-06 17:57

Is Antigua really that backward?
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Am I the only one to see this irony?

#54 Iron » 2011-10-06 16:58

How can we continue quote from THE SAME scripture that was used by white men to enslave our brothers and sisters in Africa? It boggles the mind.
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Not God, but you

#53 MikeLM » 2011-10-05 20:12

Lets make one thing clear, God didn't say anything to any of you. Everything you claim, came from man, everything. You act as if your personal opinions, about what and who to listen to, are in some way equal to being a God. What a coincident, God happens to hate everything you hate, God loves everything you love and God understands YOUR sins, right?

None of you have any more clue to the meaning of life then anyone else, the fact that you would try to claim you do, says you actually know less than the average human, maybe a few primates.
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WOW,THATS ALL I CAN SAY.

#52 Donna Cha » 2011-10-05 10:41

Then we sit in awe and wonder whats happening to our tiny Paradise and to the world. No thumbs up expected or needed,i quote without fear of condemnation and no apology.

2ND CHRONICLES,(cha p13) If i shut up the heavens that there be no rain,or if i command the locusts to devour the land,or if i send pestilence among my people.
(chap 14) And if my people whom are called by name,shall HUMBLE themselves,and pray and Seek my face,turn from their wicked ways,then will i hear from heaven,and will forgive their sins and heal the land

Psalms 46(chap 10) Be STILL and KNOW that i am GOD,i will be EXALTED (lifted up) among the NATIONS,I will be exalted in the Earth.
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The Libertarian's prayer...

#51 marco polo » 2011-10-05 07:51

"Dear Lord, please save me from the zealotry of the Theocrats."
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Avid Reader(my last take on this,i see you are bordering on Atheism.

#50 Say What------- » 2011-10-04 14:57

Do you consider yourself having faith? If so do you know the meaning of faith? Who and what do you have faith in? Do you know who God is?I dont think you can answer yes to any of these questions,if you could you would not say its my way with no in between, for your info,there is one Creator,one truth,and one right way,his way. I am far from been perfect,but i dont try to twist anything to suit myself,i seek truth and accept it for what it is,with God there is no in between,you are either for him or against him and that will not change.
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@ Say What

#49 Avid Reader » 2011-10-04 14:14

There is a major difference between having faith and being a religious zealot, unfortunately you fall into the latter. With zealots there is no in between, it is my way or no way.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#48 SMH » 2011-10-04 12:24

Lets first start by defining GOD! Our faith base society is killing us.
If we are created in his own imagine then we need to ask this God what went wrong when he was molding "gays". Question this perfect being!!
Blows my mind that the AG of this nation would make such a statement and interject his "personal" beliefs on this nation.
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#47 Say What » 2011-10-04 09:31

It seem like you were there when the book of mary was written and omitted. It also seem like you were there when we were created so you know all the mistakes that the creator when he made us imperfect. Your thoughts are yours,that dont mean you are correct. As far as i am concerned this is not debatable.Two men cannot procreate,therf ore something must be deathly wrong with the union. You seem to have a problem with God,well sir/madam sorry to tell you,nobody can help you with that,except maybe Satan ,try him you might get some answers as to why we are so imperfect.
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@ Born Again Christain

#46 Avid Reader » 2011-10-04 01:17

Can you just imagine if this world was perfect?, what it would be like living in it. I brought up the Book of Mary because of that, one of the things she discussed in it, is that there is perfection in nature and also imperfection, they exist side by side and human beings are a part of nature.

The Book of Mary is never included in any of the writings because as told, Peter ranted about her recanting of how she knew Christ. He did not believe that she could have been as close to him as she claimed.

If she was, it would have put to rest the theory that women had no power and that there place was below men, talk about chauvenism. Just pay attention to the religious right in the US and the laws they are passing against women.

If we are created in God's image, with so much wrong with us as human beings then we need to start questioning what has he done to us and not question the man who has tolerance for his fellow man.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#45 well well well » 2011-10-03 22:59

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggl5ZGaJFFM. Who would have thought it.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#44 born again christian » 2011-10-03 22:31

As of today i can safely say,Antigua is not a Christian society,I hear some sentiments expressed that hurts me to the core,blasphemou s and downright clueless of God. (following bloggers)Say what, Lionman.A,guan woman,Hc,antigu an youth, please do not continue on this debate.It is senseless arguing with some people, they will learn from their own follies.
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Marco polo

#43 Say What------- » 2011-10-03 21:48

Who a trouble ru? certainly not me.All i say is that no legal rights should be given,keep ru worthlessness to ru self,no one wants to know.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#42 HC » 2011-10-03 19:12

Well for once,i am backing PLM 101%.When it comes to political matters we are never on the same page,but this time,I have to say Could not have said it better myself.@ BUZZBOMB,no one can be concerned about what happens in someone else,s bedroom,because in reality you cant see through walls,The topic here was not what happen in the bedroom,but if the act itself should be considered legal if done in public,soon it will be okay also if they decide to go in front of a minister and say Who God join together let no one put asunder,i guess that would be their right do.
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Simon needs to be removed.

#41 Avid Reader » 2011-10-03 18:29

I don't know if Simon has ever heard of the Book of Mary that was not included in the bible. His vision like a lot of Christians is that of a utopianism and perfection, carrying out this vision unfortunately gives him illegitimate power in the name of God.

If nature was created equal, we would not have inequality at every turn. I for one thinks, God played a miserable joke on us, he wanted to know if we could be tolerant of the bending of nature and as human beings we are failing miserably at it.

Antiguans & Barbudans need to tell these people that are guiding what happens in our society enough is enough, there are more things to worry about. I doubt if every gay person is going up to him and telling him "I want to xaxk you".

Apparently his job is not that important to him and therefore it is time to remove him. This is a man who has nothing to do, education was not that important to him, what a joke.
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skyewill

#40 tenman » 2011-10-03 18:15

skyewill well said. I watch the Ghanian and Nigerian movies and I have to agree that there is no one more beautiful and sexy than our ladies of African decent. Now if only we can get some (not all but too many) of the local (Antiguan) ones to get that bitter look off their faces, life would even be even sweeter.

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Ladies depend on Skyewill

#39 skyewill » 2011-10-03 17:15

Antigua woman me 100 with you baby. imagine me 6 ft 4, 260 and one man can look pan me? once you go skye. you end up in a wheel chair!...me can't tap laugh! lord! don't tell me and I won't ask. I am taking this to my grave. Do you see how gorgious our beatifull Antiguan women are? I am in Africa and you warn fo know this is the land of the original black woman ** and as a king well....Praise the Lord ( in my deepest male voice) hey Bob, honey are you home? til a crack-up boss.
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Last two cents

#38 Buzzbomb » 2011-10-03 17:08

Tenman, my hat is off to you. You found a couple of quotes from hundreds of thousands in the bible.
I'm no authority, but I know you can find quotes about jihad in the Quran and many calls to spurn Gentiles in the Torah.
I just don't think it's healthy for a global society in the 21st Century to be so obssessed with old theocratic text over basic reality in the world.
Note: there were almost a thousand people who followed Jim Jones to Guyana.
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@ Say What

#37 marco polo » 2011-10-03 17:02

Then leave it to God and tell man to keep his nose out of other people's business....
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@ Good blow Bob

#36 skyewill » 2011-10-03 16:52

me nar tap lub how de gal dem flex and by the way I love Amsterdam.
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Think(Liberated ???)

#35 Say What » 2011-10-03 15:21

You can say you are anything.I would not know.I have always treated people how i want to be treated,pray tell me what does this have to do with the issue at hand. if i go and steal from someone,the law will take care of me right? Well if you are in the act of certain immorral activities that the creator condem, he will take care of you also,so what right are you telling me about.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#34 think!!!!! » 2011-10-03 15:05

Sorry "say what " I am female and happily heterosexual. I just try to live my life by the golden rule - do unto others as you would have them do unto to you..aka - treat others as you would wish to be treated. Try it, it's quite liberating. :lol:
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ALL GAYS& SUPPORTERS OF SUCH

#33 born again christian » 2011-10-03 14:56

Please go on your knees and ask the Lord to cleanse your mind and hearts,this is absolutely outrageous the way people are trying to justify this immoral act. God destroyed cities for these atrocities. Please lord,hold back your anger for the sake of us few who knows truth from fiction and Gods laws of nature from Satans Evil lust.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#32 D » 2011-10-03 14:51

that's right lionman. the operative phrase here in infringing dirty ways in society......
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ALL WHOM I OFFENDED

#31 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2011-10-03 14:51

As if i care about the thumbs down! Keep doing what you all are doing,according to a comment,You all are not only twisted but perverted.I did not make the laws God did,and since me know he never change,just keep up the good works,maybe he may decide to rewrite creation to fit your sick evil filthy perverted life style.
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buzzbomb

#30 tenman » 2011-10-03 14:43

Buzzbomb though I agree with you that what persons do in the privacy of their homes is between them and God, I must point you to scriptural (new testament) references on this issue and state that the bible is very clear on this issue:

Romans 1:26–27

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

1 Corinthians 6:9

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

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@THINK

#29 SAY WHAT-- » 2011-10-03 14:34

STOP BUGGERING. IT IS WRITTEN ALL OVER YOUR POST. STOP IT.
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#28 SAY WHAT-------- » 2011-10-03 14:32

What can be Bigotry in someone saying E WRANG? You all are twisted.No wonder Antigua have it so,plenty ** YA,notice how quick they are to response. Get real buzzbomb,becaus e Jesus never say anything about same sex,that mean it is okay?? You are really twisted.
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Mokum

#27 The Punisher » 2011-10-03 14:21

Antigua's legal department sent an average Antiguan representative to Amsterdam to see if we really can learn something. The following report was filed:

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krudM4kHZt4&feature=related*
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Show me the scripture

#26 Buzzbomb » 2011-10-03 13:56

Lots of talk about religion on this issue I see. Unfortunately Jesus says nothing about same-sex behaviour and the Jewish prophets are silent about homosexuality.
But then again there always seems to be a way to twist a verse or two to support bigotry. So show me the scripture. Bet you can't.
Afterall, in the past the bible has been used to justify slavery, bloody crusades, apartheid, condemn interracial marriage, execute women as witches, support the Klan, and persecute Jews.
Shakespeare said it this way: "Even the devil can cite Scripture for his purpose."
This is just bigotry on display and I couldn't care less what two consenting adults do in their home.
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True Leadership....

#25 marco polo » 2011-10-03 13:49

With all due respect, the AG needs to grow a pair....Man up (so to speak)!! Leadership is not cowering in fear of what the popular reaction will (may?) be...
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@Morris

#24 Proud ANU Queen » 2011-10-03 13:44

Morris, I couldn"t have said it better. Many of us have skeletons in our closests, yet we point a finger at others. God and God alone will judge all. The very Bible in question also says : "Judge not...lest ye be judged."
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@ Antiguan Woman

#23 Morris » 2011-10-03 13:33

I mentioned the Bible, because the AG said, “Besides, the churches and the public will cry murder if that would happen. I can tell you that."

Also, I never said they adjusted the laws to make the other evils right, they just pick and choose when, and on whom, to enforce them.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#22 Antiguan Woman » 2011-10-03 13:08

Keep thumbing me down.It will not change the truth. God will not accept your excuses of been born that way.
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@ Morris

#21 Antiguan Woman » 2011-10-03 12:12

No one is using the bible to convict anyone,the Bible has already done that by itself, you either believe or you dont. And agreed,all the other ills you mentioned are also condemed in the Bible,cant remember ever hearing anyone trying to adjust to make them seem right.Why then should allowances be made for this most disgusting and unnatural of all. When God created Humans and Animals he made them both Male& Female,anything else is not the norm.When the lord commanded Thou shall not kill,do we say its okay to kill because its your modern right? For the benefit of those who like to use the term All sin a sin,please read 1ST JOHN,CHAPTER 5,VERSE 16.
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Half Right

#20 dadlison » 2011-10-03 11:38

I wish the AG had not used the word 'homophobic' to defend his stance. This word is simply used by those in the gay community, and supporters thereof, to undermine any opinion to the contrary of their lifestyles. By using it, we just give it credit. I am not homophobic, I neither fear nor hate homosexuals, however I do not simply believe in allowing the epidemic to continue unchecked.

I do also believe that homosexuality, in some cases, is just the way you were born, and we should not discriminate, however not every state into which we were born is natural. OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) is not necessarily deadly and went undiagnosed for most of human history, but now is recognised as a disorder and treated, I maintain that homosexuality should be viewed in the same light. As a disorder and not a lifestyle. But the West has decided it is the latter, and so we must all step in line or be seen as violating human rights. Ah life...
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Integrity

#19 Lionman » 2011-10-03 11:04

As a social worker I am aware that we should let people live their lives but as a human being who realize that it takes a man and woman to procreate I have to fully agree with the attorney general. People want to be so tolerant of homosexuality and push that it is natural when it is not. The day two man or two women can conceive a youth is when it is natural. I am a man who believe what homosexuals do is their own business but when you try to infringe your dirty ways on society and express it in public giving children a wrong perception on life and marriage and sexuality then I have a big problem. There are many television shows that push this nonsense and it is not needed more in our country. What two man and two woman want to do behind closed doors is their business. This is also addressing same sex marriages, which will be another issue in Antigua and Barbuda as people would do anything to gain revenue into the country. Antigua is not one of these places to have an influx of antyman and lesbians to run a mock and deface the image of the country we have enough of that with the ignorant crimes anc **ed politicians.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#18 Morris » 2011-10-03 11:04

There is an adage that says, "The same stick that beat the wild goat is the same stick that will beat the tame one." Well, the same Bible that we are using to convict these individuals because of their behaviors, will be the very same Bible that will convict many of us of our behaviors. How about we pick these motes out of our eyes first before we clean their's:
* stop hating our fellowmen and start loving our neighbors as ourselves.
* stop the fornication, adulteries and prostitution.
* stop bearing false witness against one another.
* stop the greed, envy, and thievery.
I guess we will not stop any of the aforementioned immoral/evil acts, because we delight in them; yet we, who are just as guilty of sin, are always ready to cast the first stone. Let the individuals be, and let God deal with them the same way he will deal with us.
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@ Remember & Think!!!!!!

#17 Morris » 2011-10-03 10:43

You are both in the ball park, there is a distinct difference between transsexuals and homosexuals.
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@ANTIGUAN ABROAD

#16 Antiguan Woman » 2011-10-03 10:40

Should one really care what words are acceptable to the US, God is the creator of all,he is still in charge.What should the world do,compromise to suit the US,it will only be a matter of time before the US understands that Gods will and Laws are supreme and not theirs.
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DONT CARE WHO THINK I AM HOMOPHOBIC

#15 Antiguan Woman » 2011-10-03 10:21

What you do in the privacy of your home is indeed your Business,howeve r when a country p** law to make homosexuals think they have a right to continue Buggery,you are infact opening the door for the wrath of the Almighty.The Bible says It is an Abomination in his eyes,no amount of Science,Modern Biology or else can make it right. Yes we should be tolerant of all human,they do have a right to life,but no way should we sit by and allow laws to be passed to make the union of two Men correct,it is unnatural,and condemend by God,who are we in the name of Human rights to try to change Gods plan.Now or never,leave the laws on the books.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#14 PFKAR » 2011-10-03 10:18

"Antigua is still very much led by male and church influences.”

This is the best that the nation's attorney general could do to justify his "reasoning"?

Mr. AG, the role of the law in a democratic society is precisely to prevent the tyrannous abuse of human rights by those who would oppress others based on such childish and boorish "reasons".

The church needs to grow up and stop using their silly book of mythology to selectively decide what constitutes evil.

"(Shellfish) shall be an abomination to you; you shall not eat their flesh, but you shall regard their carc** as an abomination." (Leviticus 11:11)

"Whatever in the water does not have fins or scales; that shall be an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:12)

"...and the swine, though it divides the hoof, having cloven hooves, yet does not chew the cud, is unclean to you." (Leviticus 11:7)
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#13 Antiguan Abroad » 2011-10-03 10:14

PLM - The so-called "Christian" country that was established since 1632 used our forebears as human chattel (slaves) for 200 years. That's a rather poor foundational argument on which to base your support for homophobia.
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For God and country

#12 PLM » 2011-10-03 09:38

This is a Christian country, and has been since 1632, so by definition we are a homophobic country. The AG is 100% right; Antigua people want no part of this foreign degenerate culture. Anti-Christians are not welcomed
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#11 Remember » 2011-10-03 09:34

Remember Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboim and Bela. Bewary of were you came from to know were you are going.

@ Think...did this individual showed evidence of wanting to have sex with the same gender or did they show evidence of being "born" as a wrong gender? I ask this because one of the questions leads to that person being a homosexual and the other leads to the person probable having gender issues on a physical, mental and spiritual level especially if this person showed traits of it very early in life like before puberty. If, it leans to the latter this person may need phsycological help.

But, still for both....GOD help us!!
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#10 hmm » 2011-10-03 09:33

Like we should care what two consenting adults do in private. As long as they pay their taxes like everyone else they are entitled to the same rights and protections under the law. Don't we have more important things to worry about? :-? Provide more jobs in Antigua, Get our CXC math and science grades up, get our economy moving north instead of south are a few that come to mind.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#9 Antiguan Abroad » 2011-10-03 09:05

As appears to be the case in a lot of the laws on the books in Antigua, the "buggery" statute is archaic and confusing. The law quoted here states that a person commits buggery if they engage in anal intercourse.... whether male on male, or male-female. There does not appear to be an exclusion for consensual sexual acts. Therefore, a straight married couple (and more particularly, a homosexual couple) can potentially be charged with a crime if they engage in this "unnatural" act in the comfort of their home. The fact that such prosecutions do not presently occur does not mean that it cannot, since the laws are there to support it. There have been several similar cases in some southern US states that have been based on similar out of date laws...and this has served as a lightning rod for many gay rights groups.

As for Mr. Simon's open declaration that he is "homophobic", I certainly hope he does not make a similar pronouncement in an international setting. The word has extremely negative connotations, especially here in the US, that I am not sure he fully appreciates.
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@Skyewill

#8 Good Job Bob » 2011-10-03 08:58

"This is not Amsterdam"

Damned straight (pun intended)!

Amsterdam has Universities, Libraries, Museums, social stability, competent government, rich history and a thriving economy.
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Good Job Bob

Never have so many been concerned....

#7 marco polo » 2011-10-03 08:34

with what others do in the privacy of their own bedrooms. The man is a homophobic (his words) moron (mine). Those who deny to others the rights that they enjoy (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) always - without exception - wind up on the wrong side of history (See Bull Connor, George Wallace, Lord Mountbatten, etc.) Simply fighting against the tide... Good luck with that....
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Agreed.

#6 Antiguan Youth » 2011-10-03 07:42

hanks AG Justin Simon.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#5 W.T.F » 2011-10-03 07:08

Does this mean that most of our previous gov't, current gov't, police force, and maxisxraxes are guitly of this crime?

Most citizens would agree that we have all felt buggered by the aforementioned at one time or another.
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Boom Bye Bye

#4 skyewill » 2011-10-03 06:57

Two man dog in the street locked and I could not believe it. I agree not to change the law. It is not natural. However if a man and a man consent and they don't tell, I won't ask. If they get caught in public, lock them up. just be careful of which police or politician you send. This is not Amsterdam.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#3 Morris » 2011-10-03 06:34

"Being gay is morally wrong." So is thieving, fraud, political corruption and nepotism, but politicians get away with these all the time. Can you then change the law to address these infractions?

"Antigu a is still very much led by male and church influences.” Good luck with that dumb chauvinistic sexist rationale as the basis for your case before the UN Human Rights meeting.

I agree that we should protect minors and victims of criminal acts, but let those consenting adults choose their own partners and let God be their judge at the appointed time. You have much more important tasks ahead of you to bring ANU back from the brink of collapse.
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#2 Think!!!!!! » 2011-10-03 05:48

Don't be so hasty Mr. Simon. Its not as if homosexuals can do anything about their orientation. Targeting them is like targeting someone because of the color of their skin. You would be justifiably outraged if someone did that to you.You can't do anything about your genes. I am aware of one individual who has family members several of whom exhibit homosexual characteristics to varying degrees. They were simply more concentrated in him. No matter how many beatings he got he did not /could not change. Why should he be condemmed to a life of no love because of something that he can do nothing about. Your public remarks do nothing to help the at risk youth coming of age in a homophobic society. Please think before you open your mouth (at least in a public forum)
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RE: Antigua's Buggery Law Unlikely To Change

#1 BeenThereDoneThat » 2011-10-03 03:54

Massive financial fraud is ignored at best, protected, cultivated and encouraged at worst, but buggery is a concern?

Seriously?
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