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Governor General Takes Umbrage

Governor General Takes UmbrageAntigua St. John's - Governor General Dame Louise Lake-Tack has broken her silence on her exclusion from the inauguration of the OECS Assembly, stating she was disrespected.

The head of state also took issue with the removal of national items from the parliamentary chambers.

"What the devil is wrong with our national flag that it should be removed, the mace and the laws of Antigua & Barbuda, to accommodate any other Assembly?" Dame Louise said heatedly in an unscheduled call to Observer Radio's Big Issues programme on Sunday.



She quoted Section 27 of the Constitution of Antigua & Barbuda that states that Parliament should consist of Her Majesty, a Senate and a House of Representatives.

The Governor General labelled the matter serious and cited as an example the incident in 1999 when Willmoth Daniel lost his seat to Sherfield Bowen and contested it.

According to the governor general, the court ruled that Bowen was unlawfully served by the bailiff because he was given the summons in the parking lot of the Parliament building.

"When Ms. Isaac wrote her article and said no disrespect to the Governor General she was very, very far from the truth," she said.

The head of state also accused those in authority of trying to cover the faux pas by speaking, within days of the inauguration, about her absence from the meeting.

She was referring to comments made by Speaker of the House of Representatives D. Gisele Isaac-Arrindell, who was part of the committee that organised the August 10 Assembly meeting.

In response, the House Speaker said what the GG stated was absolutely true if she was speaking about a national Parliament, but as she noted, this was a regional meeting.

"Parliament can be anywhere that the members of Parliament designate. In Grenada, if I'm not mistaken, there's not even a Parliament building that is workable and so they meet in another place," she said.

"I'm not going to get into a war with the Governor General as to whether she thinks she was deliberately disrespected or not, because every argument that she brings up was brought up at the committee stage and we were willing to concede that in the interest of the regional body, if we are going to use this national building certain concessions will have to be made.

"If she wants to call me a liar on that account, and why she thinks I would want to disrespect her, is beyond me," the Speaker said.

Isaac-Arrindell used as an example, the suspension of opposition Member of Parliament Gaston Browne several months ago because it was deemed he had disrespected the Parliament in light of the presence of the mace and the Speaker.



At the same time, she noted, students from the Antigua State College utilised the same area because the mace was not present.

"We have done no damage at all to the Constitution, none," the House Speaker said firmly.

"If we have an earthquake tomorrow, God forbid, and the Parliament building is wrecked we will never have Parliament again until a new building is erected? Not likely. We will find a school room, a church hall a tamarind tree and we will say Parliament will be held here. We'll put the mace down, that would be Parliament," she said.

"We're making too much of the building, we're losing the big picture in the small details. And if regional unity is not a big picture then what is the point of the OECS this past 31 years?" the House Speaker added.

Just last week, she and opposition member Molwyn Joseph were at odds over the arrangements for the regional assembly meeting.

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Cat-fight

#43 Chinie-boi » 2012-08-25 09:53

The entire Caribbean is watching us self destruct with political powered madness of prominent women of our government, the children are listening and are angry at this cat fight for power,this is deep and must not continue an early resolution My Prime MInister, please solve this crisis or we are going to pay dear at the elections.WE can't have this.
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#42 VNL » 2012-08-21 18:55

The first thing that needs to be answered is what exactly is Parliament. Is it a body of people who are elected to help govern the country or is it a building? I believe it is the former and every definition of the word supports my case and if such is the case then Lawyer Dame Lake-Tack has absolutely no case.
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@Jackie Spence

#41 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-08-21 09:40

Be careful about what ANTIGUAN WOMAN wishes for...like Lester Bird to remain Leader of the ALP into the next elections!)

FYI,i wish for nothing more ,nothing less than for the removal of the UPP.Whether you choose to believe or not,i have no perference as to who leads the ALP,i have already made myself clear ,it does not matter to me who leads/runs on an ALP TICKET,i will vote for them in order to get rid of this cancer thats eating A,gua away. I defend LB at times,because i think he is been disrespected from some bloggers,i also think that too much emphasis is been placed on him,when the real problem is the UPP,moreso the PM BS.I root for no one,except for my country,and against the destructive forces of the incompetent UPP which at times seem to be forgotton as soon as LB,S name comes up. So understand my focus is on the removal of the Cancer(upp) and not on the ALP leaders,if they regain power and mess up,rest assured you will hear from me again,but for now we have a more pressing problem than LB.
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@ naiomi

#40 Jackie Spense » 2012-08-20 22:26

Be careful about what ANTIGUAN WOMAN wishes for...like Lester Bird to remain Leader of the ALP into the next elections!

It is also worth noting that women are more bashing on their own? If an "ordinary" man had called the GG a "liar" the whole UPP would be up in arms! That's POWA for ya!
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Girl Power!!!

#39 Wadadli Blogger » 2012-08-20 20:15

These females Baldwin put in place are gonna set back womans movements and progress in Antigua. They are way too political. And way too self serving. They tow Baldwin's line all the time. It's almost as if they think that they should "beg" for their jobs. But then Jacqui, Joanne and Malaika are just the same also so I guess it's a UPP thing!!! And they are all so-called educated people but yet they have the "fellows" carying them down a road of xxxxxxx ... or are they themselves interested in the xxxxxxx business?
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Of All Things!!!

#38 It Is Me » 2012-08-20 19:50

Of all things for the GG to take "umbrage" to this is it!!!

The fences scandal, or the Wadadli power plant fiasco can't get a whisper of concern out either the GG or the speakers mouth.

But ever since Maulwyn talk about this "Parliamentary disrespect" the speaker was on all the radio stations dem and now the GG adds her 2 cents on live air. This must of vexxed the GG bad because people were practically cursing her name and calling for her resignation when she was holding on to the electoral commision report and you didn't hear a peep from her then. But now because she didn't get to go and exercise her pomps and pride she vex!!!

What ever happened to letters and phone calls? Why does the GG and speaker have official letterheads on papers if they nah use dem? What next are they gonna do? Start a Twitter and facebook war? ...LOL...

They are both messing up and embarrasing the whole OECS vibes over SELLFISH feelings ... next time ya'll have problems write each other a letter and make each other run for dictionaries to disect all the BIG words ya'll learned during all that schooling ya'll supposedly went through!!!
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#37 my way of helping » 2012-08-20 19:37

it is about being shallow. It is the way of Antigua and Barbuda, look on the outside and not on the inside, the heart and intention. The little picture they look at, not the big one.
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#36 The Neighbours » 2012-08-20 19:21

Dear Farmer B.S. I write to complain that your hens are making an awful noise, we are all concerned about how badly youmanage your farm,you need to keep your poultry in check they are disturbing our peace. I would suggest that you geve them some more corn to keep their mouths occupied, I would recommend some salted fungee myself. Perhaps you should find them some roosters to chase them around the yard, if they are too old invest in a pressure cooker I am sure they will make a good soup. :sigh:
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Look for disrespect and you find it!!!

#35 Observer Overseas » 2012-08-20 18:17

First, let me make it clear that I am not defending anyone or supporting mediocrity. However, when one considers that the recently held OECS assemble was the first of its kind in A&B, with no prior experience, no script or example to follow , it would be a miracle if there were no errors, mis-steps, breach of protocol etc . Its the nature of doing things for the firs time. Interpreting mis-steps as disrespect is a totally different matter, which says more about the "disrespected person" than the act itself. I honestly think that no one has done more harm to the office of the Governor General of Antigua & Barbuda than Ms. Lake Tack herself. By challenging another public official publicly via talk radio, Ms. Lake-tack has shown herself to be unfit to hold the office of GG.
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@ Val

#34 naiomi » 2012-08-20 17:58

Antiguan Woman is the only one on here that have the guts to say it as it is and not being politically correct. I believe she is going to get the desire of her heart because she is so passionate for her country. ANTIGUAN WOMAN KEEP YOUR HEAD HOLD HIGH AND DON'T LOOK DOWN.
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#33 Morris » 2012-08-20 17:00

I have asked numerous times in the past, who is responsible for protocol; is there an office? I am pretty sure if such an office existed that this spat would not have even surfaced.

Anyway, it is laughable how our officials are always quick to fight for "their respect," while the hard working law abiding citizens of ANU are continually disrespected in more ways than one. Who is looking out for their interest to ensure they get the respect they deserve?
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#32 Val » 2012-08-20 16:33

Antiguan woman u a kill me wid laugh!!
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RE: Governor General Takes Umbrage ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-08-20 15:02 The GG needs voice/speech therapy.The Speaker needs estrogen replacement.One sounded like a cackling hen,the other like a thin skinned teenage boy.Antigua is indeed in deep SSSSHHH.Has been since march 2004. 40 ANTIGUAN WOMAN Read more: http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/news/latest/101362-governor-general-takes-umbrage.html#ixzz247Wygl5D
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Breeding disrespect thru ignorance

#31 Wisdom » 2012-08-20 16:17

1. The Constitution of Antigua and Barbuda, Section 59(1) reads: "Each Session of Parliament shall be held at such place within Antigua and Barbuda ...as the Governor General shall by Proclamation appoint." The GG relied on the wrong section of the Constitution, and the wrong reasoning to arrive at her wrong conclusions. 2. Her Excellency was justly excluded from the OECS Assembly; an inflated ego prevents her from understanding that her presence would complicate the Assembly. Her Excellency cannot be included in every event and ceremony in Antigua and Barbuda. 3. The Parliament should have passed a resolution, following PM Spencer's offer, agreeing to make the building on Queen Elizabeth Highway the venue for the OECS Assembly. PM Spencer failed again. 4. The GG showed bad form and bad class, calling the Observer Radio. Would GG Carlisle ever have done such a thing...NO. It is customary for Her Majesty ELizabeth to use a substitute to get the message out. The pretender to the voice ought to have done the same. 5. PM Spencer's leadership is on test here. Let us see if the procrastinator calls his two appointees together and fix this. His leadership is on test.
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Disrespect

#30 ethical » 2012-08-20 16:16

The head of state make it her business to disrespect people all the time. Who remembers what happened at varandah, Wasn't that disrespect to our country? Who remembers what she did to the staff at the Boys Home? Wasn't that disrespect? Seems the word has different meaning depending on your class or status.
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#29 Guirguis » 2012-08-20 15:27

Seems like we have some talented politicians in the "vocals" department. Let's not forget about the one and only Hilson Baptiste and his "special voice". Anyway, the GG is just reaping what she sowed. :P
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#28 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-08-20 15:02

The GG needs voice/speech therapy.The Speaker needs estrogen replacement.One sounded like a cackling hen,the other like a thin skinned teenage boy.Antigua is indeed in deep SSSSHHH.Has been since march 2004.
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#27 Truth Be Told » 2012-08-20 14:08

As much as I think the GG is doing a terrible job, I just cannot picture Gisele Isaac-Arindale as the future GG jack. Please don't give me an upset stomach with that visual. I need my lunch to stay down today ...can't afford to pay a doctor right now in this "global economic crisis" :-?
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The G.G. has a point

#26 Daughter of Klaas » 2012-08-20 13:37

Not surprisingly Antigua has found itself embroiled in yet another comedy of errors. The Parliament of Antigua and Barbuda (building and all) is sacrosanct, a SYMBOL of our sovereignity. Gisele, as ignorant and arrogant as ever, refuses to accept the simple reality that the committee of which she was a part goofed big time in their planning of this so called important event that has created more questions than answers. Maybe having served her (ammended by the UPP) eight years and therefore elligible for a pension, Gisele sees herself as the soon-to-be Governor-Genera l Her Excellecy Dame Gisele Isaac.
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#25 Alexis » 2012-08-20 13:32

This governor general does not know her place and she is a constant embar**ment to Antigua and Barbuda. I am at a loss as to why the Prime Minister has not asked her to zip it. After **orical occasion this woman is seeking to make us the laughing stock of the Caribbean. Shame on you Ms Lake -Tack!
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Mockery of our Constitution!

#24 Dig It » 2012-08-20 12:23

Sadly, our constitution has been made a "mockery" for years, so it is just a "downright-sham e" that some public officials would even use it to make a valid argument! You just can't point to the constitution, well after the "damage" is done (wrong is wrong, right is right)! The Constitution shouldn't be a place to site our agruments, if we can't follow the lands of the land, or even see to it that it is not "trampled" upon by those in government! If GG thinks she was "disrespected" by the House Speaker, why not kill two-birds with one stone by "resigning" her post and call on her colleague to do the same?" After all, you have one "out-of-oder" and the other a "full-laced-par tisan!" They are no "innocents" here, plain and simple!
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@ Tenman - The Fallacy of Critical Thinking!

#23 John French II » 2012-08-20 11:25

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Living in a Land of Make Belief - A "Bewildered & Bemused Electorate" - where "Ethical Badmindedness" prevails and arguments tend to be about Personalities..
It is absolutely clear that the Planning for this event, which , mind you was postponed, was sadly wanting. Whether the GG's argument is flawed should be the debate. Whether the Speaker's argument is legal should be the debate. The Speaker, like most folks, could not focus on the merits of a healthy debate when the issue was raised by a Red Parliamentarian . This was a dangerous . When you sow the wind, be prepared to reap a whirlwind.

As you have rightfully noted, the Committee should have been advised by a Legal Beagle. Where has been the AG? In most jurisdictions with Parliaments of some form, there are usually Learned Women/Men of Distinction skilled in Constitutional Law and Parliamentary History, Norms, Customs & Vision whose advise both sides of the aisle call upon to render good counsel. Speakers knowledgeable seek their advice.
Anyway, "Duh u see eny ting fi smile fa" about an Assembly of Parliamentarian s when Model Parliaments are held there? Respect.
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#22 Have Mercy! » 2012-08-20 10:49

wow! Two UPP women at odds with each other? Now this is interesting. What next? The pulling out of weaves and finger nail scratching? :sigh:
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#21 proud antiguan » 2012-08-20 10:28

The GG is an emba**ment and should either resign or be dismissed. The first mistake was to bring her here when there are so many other persons who would have brought dignity to the office.
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Truth

#20 tenman » 2012-08-20 10:22

Truth, before decisions like these are made. don't you think is most prudent to seek a legal opinion? I find your attitude fraught with danger. The speaker used a youth meeting there as justification but just because I drove the wrong way down a one way lane with no repercussions, does that now make it legal?

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do it properly

#19 tenman » 2012-08-20 10:14

Though I see the office of GG as a useless vestige of colonialism, we need to follow proper procedures. The speaker may choose to follow her own logic but at at the end of the day the law should be adhered to. Matters like these should have had the benefit of an opinion from a legal scholar, specifically one in constitutional law. If the building is unimportant as Isaac thinks, why would we have laws on the books (eg public order act) which give the police power to disperse marches specifically near the Parliament Building (whether or not parliament is in session)? The GG also sited the Bowen vs Daniel ruling which also seems to point to the importance of the parliament building. Perhaps the counter argument will be that the court ruled this way because parliament was in session
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#18 Antiguan Abroad » 2012-08-20 09:26

DR. Dredd, Thanks for your response. My point was that WHEN there is an existing and official edifice, and barring an extraordinary circumstance, there should be no discussion regarding alternate locations that can be classified as "Parliament". I believe her quoted statement that the parliamentary members can "designate" Parliament be held anywhere, is incorrect and even a bit ludicrous. I believe circumstances would have to be so chaotic and unusual that it would force the members to convene elsewhere as an emergency measure....
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#17 Smashing » 2012-08-20 09:15

What goes around comes around. What goes up must come down. "You tink you do me, but you do yourself"

My, my, how the tables have turned on the horse-voice woman :D
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Important stuff

#16 JP Farnsworth » 2012-08-20 09:15

I guess we really don't have any important issues to worry about, so we bicker about a building and who used it for what?
I want to see them swat each other with their purses at least that would make for some good video on that You Tube thing.
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#15 Dr. Dredd » 2012-08-20 09:02

You are incorrect. The Speaker is correct. I never thought I would live to defend the arrogant, know-it-all Speaker, but Giselle is correct. The Parliament is just a building until the Mace is there.
For example, students hold mock parliaments and have debates in this same Parliament building. Some time ago, when the buildings that host Parliament were being repaired in St. Lucia and Guyana, Parliament with the Mace, were held in alternative buildings. In St. Lucia, it was in an Insurance building and in Guyana at a Conference Facility in a hotel on the East Coast. When the Parliament building was damaged here in 1974, parliament was held at the then PE Hall. Anyone remember?
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#14 Antiguan Abroad » 2012-08-20 08:37

What now, Madame Governor General? Will you send a missive to England and request that your “boss” Queen Elizabeth II sanction these "disrespectful" officials in Antigua? Will you ask that she declare war on her former colony...or even better, close down the governor's mansion and recall you to London because of this travesty? Who pays your salary anyway? It's time for this charade to end...time to get rid of the "mace" and the GG and all other emblems of an era of past British sovereignty.

As for the Speaker of the House, she's not that bright either, in my opinion. Her arguments to justify her actions put credulity to the test, to say the least. Not that I disagree with her for not inviting the pompous over-bloated GG to the OECS party....but to state that Parliament can be convened anywhere, when there is an existing structure landmarked for that purpose, is foolish. It's like saying Buckingham Palace, the US Senate and White House can be convened anywhere. No, Madame Speaker, the Antiguan Parliament can only be convened at the official structure that was erected and designated for that purpose.
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Disgraceful

#13 Dr. Dredd » 2012-08-20 08:25

This GG is a disgrace to this nation. She was a political appointment and daily she proves it. Imagine the Head of State, who in any case, is just a rubber stamp, calling in to a Talk Show to buse.
Can you imagine Her Majesty, the Queen, calling in to a Talk Show in the UK? I await some action from the PM.
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#12 Wadadlian » 2012-08-20 08:24

The Illminati fighting for the Monarchy System continued existence
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#11 Truth » 2012-08-20 08:22

Please tell us which law or regulation says that it required an act of Parliament for the OECS Assembly to use the Antiguan Parliament building. Until this is proven, the speaker is right.
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@ Lake Tac

#10 Jackie Spense » 2012-08-20 08:09

This woman has disgraced the Office of Governor General - once again! She meet her match this time though! Go Giselle!

They say she bad talking the UPP every day now!
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no disrespect, just INTROSPECT...

#9 Jumbee Picknee » 2012-08-20 08:00

One Aim, One Truth, One Destiny, so, governor general, your exclusion from this Inaugural meeting of the OECS Assembly/Parlia ment is NOT disrespectful. It is a clear and precise message which MUST be sent to the Head which sits atop the Mace. It is no longer the Power that WE the PEOPLE of this Region wants as our Figure Head.
The position which you holds as a Representative of Her Majesty of the British Throne is no longer relevant to US in this dispensation. We MUST sever these ties which binds US to a System that has abused US in the past, and said System still allows Our pseudo Leaders to do the same to US today.
As you leave Freetown on your way to St. John's or in your travels around Our Nation, or as you stay abreast of the workings of Our Parliament, tell US that you do not recognize these abuses? Your position is a relic whose rightfull place is in the Halls of our Museums & history pages.
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@ Lake Tac

#8 Jimmy » 2012-08-20 08:00

Bring back Sir James Carlsile please!
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#7 GARRAT » 2012-08-20 07:58

The Assembly is not a Parliament. It is an additional body created by the revised OECS Treaty. The Mace of Antigua and Barbuda has no presence there as our Mace represents Her Majesty in Parliament. Upon the opening of a new session of Parliament Her Majesty, Through the GG makes a Proclamation naming the time and place where Parliament will be held. The problem with this Lady is that she is a National embar**ment. She is so colonial in her thinking that she fails to understand that the children of maids and street sweepers in her fathers life time of oppression on the sydnicate estates are her interlectual superiors. Lady, get a life!
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the belly of a bone cruncher

#6 Wadadlian » 2012-08-20 07:28

How the Governor General didn't feel when she(GG) disrespected Hon. Lester Bird, when in 2009, she appointed him as Opposition Leader by mail. Antigua leaders are really strange people.
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#5 Steve » 2012-08-20 07:13

So let me get this straight. Only the presence of the Mace makes a building a parliament? Is Giselle for real?
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OH MY

#4 OO7 » 2012-08-20 06:40

I HEARD THE G.G YESTERDAY ON THE BIG ISSUES ON OBSERVER RADIO...... AND I AM SO ASHAME, THE LADY HIT AN ALL TIME LOW. ANTIGUA IS IN DEEEEEP SSSSHHHHIIIIII. ...........T
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Just get to hell off the scene

#3 Steve » 2012-08-20 06:12

From a past interview Giselle never spoke to the concerns that was raised by Mr. Molywn Joseph. She went into her paragon of virtue about people only objecting "after the fact". It is reasonable to believe that our Governor General did not wait until "after the fact". Giselle and this U.P.P. government is a disgrace and should just leave. THEY ARE SICKENING NOW.
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#2 hmmmmmmmmm » 2012-08-20 06:08

I guess the good speaker just cannot admit that she is WRONG.
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Nonsense

#1 Watcher » 2012-08-20 03:15

What a thing. Power has gotten to the head of the head of state. I was in shock when I heard her calling in. What next? What next ivor sword? As a matter of fact she was wrong on both her arguments about the parliament and Sheffield Bowen was served outside the parliament during a sitting of the parliament. That was why the decision was handed down in his favour. All it is about is that this head of state believes that she must be the head of everything. Nonsense.
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