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Browne Needs Clarity on PM’s WPP Stance

PM say there is no justification for the request Antigua St John's - Chairman of the Antigua Labour Party Gaston Browne says he is yet to receive a response from Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer regarding his recently announced position that the requested inquiry into the controversial Wadadli Power Plant was deemed unnecessary and would therefore not go forward.

Browne was responding to questions from Caribarena.com following the Prime Minister’s statements on Tuesday on a local radio program.

The ALP Chairman said he was uncertain whether the PM was referring to the subject of a Commission of Inquiry or that of an Independent Investigation, since the question he responded to was posed on the grounds of the former.

“I do not understand if (the PM) is talking about an independent inquiry which is indeed expensive, but if he has become despotic about the matter then it is definitely a (cause) for concern,” Browne said.

The MP said he needed clarity on the matter as well as an insight into the proposed Cabinet meeting over the weekend.

“(Spencer) leaves everybody to speculate that he has something to hide and that there is indeed something wrong with the power plant,” Browne said.

He noted that the ALP position was for a Commission of Inquiry and not an independent investigation, which is what he (Browne) had asked for in his meeting of last week.

“I don't want to suggest that merely an investigation is acceptable to the ALP but it is not acceptable for the Prime Minister to flatly refuse to account,” Browne said, suggesting that such a refusal constitutes grounds for his (the PM’s) removal from office in the interest of transparency and accountability.

The plan of action in this regard could be the customary march through the streets of St. Johns, which Browne believes would undoubtedly generate more than enough support from the public.



In the meantime, Prime Minister Spencer had described the opposition’s request as a “waste of time and money that would better spent to ensure that we get from the power plant (what) we are supposed to get.”

He said there is no justification for the request since “all the facts are there”. The PM stressed that these are the same facts being requested by the opposition and other groups.

“I maintain that as far as I know and as far as the information that we have, these engines are manufactured. They were new engines when they left China. They were tested and examined not only by our technicians but by MAN – the German Company, under whose license the Chinese manufactured these engines,” Spencer said.

Spencer reiterated that the Power Plant engines are machines that fail from time to time like any others. He repeated his contrast between a power plant and a hotel lobby, stating that he is not at all surprised at what is occurring at the facility.

“This whole thing is being blown completely out of proportion… clearly when you look at some of the things that have been said and done on this issue anybody who wants to take a clear view of this would see that this thing is motivated by politics and certain types of interests…” the PM opined.

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Guns for South Africa???

#57 Vere C. Bird III » 2012-07-05 21:29

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RE: Browne Needs Clarity on PM’s WPP Stance

#56 Reality » 2012-07-05 00:38

I'm loath to quote ** Cheney, but if no adult supervision is imposed on this rogue state, "the next warning may be a mushroom cloud."
They're poor, desperate, corrupt and have a seat in the UN. Am I the only person who sees that we may someday look back at the Stanford International Bank fiasco and think "US$ 7 billion, is that all?" I know as someone who stood on his roof eleven years ago and watched almost three thousand people die before my eyes, and lived several years in Antigua, I would have to say, "yea, I saw that coming a decade away".
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RE: Browne Needs Clarity on PM’s WPP Stance

#55 Reality » 2012-07-05 00:38

Ha! This is going around the internets now about Antigua. I guess Fat Ol' Baldwin has bigger problems!
OK, maybe some good can come of this. Clearly, the investors had little knowledge of what kind of place Antigua is. This is a "Black" country who transshipped arms to the South African Apartheid government when virtually the entire world was observing an embargo. They allowed Gerald Bull to use their coast for a prototype of a ballistic cannon for Saddam Hussein capable of reaching Israel (the Mossad apparently took care of that by slipping a bullet into his cranium). They allowed John Allen Mohammad to sell genuine Antiguan passports to Allah only knows who while he was recruiting and training Lee Malvo for the DC sniper attacks. They were one of the pioneers of illegal internet gambling.
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Turbulent Weather Forecast as the Pressure Trendlines Spiral Down!

#54 John French II » 2012-07-05 00:03

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. This is directed to the Management & Engineers at APUA.
The Hon Min of Public Works has been the first to walk the Distance Road.
The Good Hon Dr. PM with Responsibility has knowingly, as power outages is the norm, questions the management of dirty power being transmitted. As the Vendor at the market says: "Pay Attention!" MBS! Quote:
These Guidelines provide concrete suggestions on how ... dilemmas can be solved. ... they suggest that the state should exercise its ownership functions through a centralised ownership entity, ..., which should act independently and in accordance with a publicly disclosed ownership policy. ... also suggest the strict separation of the state's ownership and regulatory functions. If properly implemented, these and the other recommended reforms would go a long way to ensure that state ownership is exercised in a professional and accountable manner, ...The result would be healthier, more competitive and more transparent enterprises.
Direct you to Relations with Stakeholders, Transparency & Disclosure.www.oecd.org/dataoecd/46/51/34803211.pdf
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@ John French II

#53 Jumbee Picknee » 2012-07-04 23:53

THE WESTMINSTER STYLE GOVERNMENT IS A PRIVATE CORPORATION WHICH HAS BEEN ROBBING HUMANITY BLIND FOR CENTURIES
...said Corporation has many subsidiaries (Independent Governments, Territories, etc which have to abide by that Corporation Laws, by-laws
Fool me once, I am a donkey, fool me twice, I am now a hybrid/a mule, fool me three times, I am a clone/ostrich, you know the symbolic meaning of each one of those animals
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@ John French II

#52 Jumbee Picknee » 2012-07-04 23:34

You are correct, the people(sharehol ders) elects a board of trustees(parlia ment) to run their(Nation of Antigua, Barbuda& Redonda) affairs as they the trustees see fit, and since our Nation is a subsidiary of the House of Lords/the United Kingdom Corporation Ltd and Ministry of justice/Dun & Bradstreet 22-549-8526, all Corporations, private entities which operates for profit at the cost of the shareholder/tax payer/citizen, so that the Ceo(Spencer) and the other officers(tamo, gaston, lester, wilmouth, etc) can and will get paid before the taxpayers/citiz en/shareholder does. This is the Westminister style of governing. As a matter of fact, the president is the GG, this is why only that position can initiate one of the Corporation by-laws i.e. COMMION OF INQUIRY.
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@Naiomi

#51 Vere C. Bird III » 2012-07-04 22:16

No harm intended no harm done. But we have reached a point in Antigua & Barbudan politics where our politicians do not have the answer which the people are asking. What NEXT!!! I'll be out there in the sun wailing on Baldwin and some Chinese official until we get the answers that we are asking for. The key is to organise and mobilise. DO NOT WAIT ON POLITICIANS, they are a disappointing lot. I know a few :lol:
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Investigation

#50 Jumbee Picknee » 2012-07-04 22:11

Here's where the investigation should start. "The strawman", Pompey, being knowledgeable of this Corporation's by-law, can help by providing the necessary avenues to get to the heart of the beast. . Or, is he sworn to his grave to keep their secrets
Vere Bird III should also be aware just like all other barrister(arres ter), lawyer(liaz), magistrate(cast rator) or judge(grudge)
If they read their oath in legalese and not English.

THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES...
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@Naiomi

#49 Vere C. Bird III » 2012-07-04 22:07

People need to take to the streets and organise more protests. The court room is no substitute for a political solution. The politicians need to be forced to do their jobs and start to protest(one-off marches don't count). I don't think many judges's will risk their careers over the disclosure of documents which is a preliminary stage to trial and not a substantive case. If the matter is taken to court they will drag it out till past March, 2014 and all the way to the privy council.

I was never a big fan of the Election Petitions either although I helped out on that one more than most. It is time for the Antiguans and Babudans to stand up and be counted.

I feel your same amount of anguish over the matter. I am registering the Lone Wolf Protesters as a Friendly Society and appoint trustees and executives and we will run Baldwin and the chinese connection out of town with or without the assistance of the opposition politicians. Please feel free to join us Ill let you know when its finished being registered contact be by email or cell: , 775-7201.

Long Live Antigua & Barbuda!!
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"No Means No!" PT2

#48 John French II » 2012-07-04 20:45

Notes From A Native Son Of the Rock. Antigua & Barbuda proudly, happily and constitutionall y practice the Westminister Style of Democracy where the First Past The Post system of elected Parliamentarian s is enjoyed by all. This is not a democracy of masquerading carnival dances and demonstrations. The democracy is founded on the rule of law and orderly passing of the reins of Government. If the People chose to elect Badly, they must be prepared to suffer the heat from the fires of Hell for the elected term. As sure as the sun will shine, they will be afforded the opportunity to change the party and seek a more perfect union of Antigua & Barbuda for peace order & good governance if they so desire. Those who tout the Arab Spring are misguided. Those Countries had no Westminister Style Democratic traditions.
The Reds should be engaging in educating and mobilising the electorate for the coming election which is less than two years away. The electorate must be under no illusions that the Good Fortunes of the Nation will turn around in their first term during which time they will have every opportunity to Catch the Guilty.
Heaven help The Nation Of Antigua & Barbuda.
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.....in full effect....

#47 Jumbee Picknee » 2012-07-04 20:34

Greetings to all, what has happened, is happening and will continue to happen to our Nation, if we do not eradicate it like 'burg**' (bermuda g**) are THE WILLIE LYNCH and THE STRAW MAN SYNDROMES.L, and they have permeated every nerve, meridian, capillary, of our being's and culture. OUR NATION IS IN NEED OF A SEVEN TIMES 7, hell fire burning to cleanse its conscience. Just like a farmer burns 'burg**, then turns the soil/soul of the earth over, spread dung over the newly turned soil to allow the heat to elliminate the rest of the burg**
Jah let brimstone and fire rain down on these wicked souls to purge our Nation for your future generation
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naiomi

#46 tenman » 2012-07-04 20:32

naiomi, I will join you and not only via comments but with hard cash. John French also made a point I have heard echoed by Gaston Browne: More persons need to step up and not only put their hand out, but offer moneys.

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"No Means No!"

#45 John French II » 2012-07-04 20:17

Notes From A native Son Of The Rock. What Part of No does the Nation not Understand? Why fulminate and tie yourselves in knots? Beware of Hypertension, Strokes and Heart Attacks. From PEST to SLEPT to PESTLE to STEEPLE, **ressed by many a News article and comments form far and wide it is self-evident that the Nation holds this Truth: No means No is Not Part of the Culture. Read all of today's News Portal articles & comments. Can you come to another conclusion. Quote:
Foul deeds will rise, Though all the earth o'erwhelm them, to men's eyes. - Hamlet: Shakespeare.
The belief in divine justice - this being a Nation steeped in European & Judeo Christianity - should direct many to the People of the Book to the Ten Plagues and The Exodus or to use their Intellectual Gifts to seek the truth legally as recommended by one who speaks truth to power and exhorts the Nation "Let's fix the little things with RWE before we attempt to fix the big things."
I applaud the sentiment and suggested direction. "E nar hah pan!". The REDS will not spend their own money and the People will not Contribute. How many legal suits have they shouted out from Mount Grenville?
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@ fnpsr

#44 naiomi » 2012-07-04 19:46

I totally agree with you so I am going to start an investigation on my own as an private Antiguan citizen. I am going to follow exactly what you said and put all politicians to shame and also the citizens of Antigua that is living there. You cannot always trust politicians to do the right thing. So thank you my brother Antiguan

Read more: http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/news/latest/100976-browne-needs-clarity-on-pm-s-wpp-stance.html#addcomments#ixzz1zhUoTrbq
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@ Vere Bird III

#43 naiomi » 2012-07-04 19:43

As a private citizen, I neet to hire you to get the information about the Waddalli Power Plant through the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. If the government refuse the information I want you to take it to court. Let me know if you can do it and how much it will cost. This is for real because enough is enough. Too much garbage is going on in Antigua and nothing is being done. Anyone who is country first and want to join me is free to do so.

Read more: http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/news/latest/100976-browne-needs-clarity-on-pm-s-wpp-stance.html#addcomments#ixzz1zhUQCMcH
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@ Vere Bird III and @ fspnr

#42 naiomi » 2012-07-04 19:42

i am truly sorry about those two blogs I was the one who wrote them and put your name in my name. I am truly sorry.
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re: vere bird III re sarcasm

#41 fnpsr » 2012-07-04 18:43

Vere Bird III, I do not know who you are, but from what I have read here on CA, I understand you are a “lawyer”. Therefore you do not need to hire anyone to champion your cause. Man up and take the baton and lead the charge. I have given you a sample of what is required; so let’s see what you are made of. Instead of being sarcastic, you should be researching and writing briefs to attempt to ascertain the truth regarding the WPP.

“Let’s fix the little things with RWE before we attempt to fix the real things.
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@ Maco

#40 Skyewill » 2012-07-04 15:34

the biggest robbery, yep, new vs used, I don't know and I believe it's the wrong angle.
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Browne Needs Clarity On Pm's WPP Stance

#39 Anu » 2012-07-04 14:23

The way that PM Spencer choose to handle this whole WPP issue, clearly shows that he has no intention in calling any investigation. Mr Spencer continue to accuse members of the ALP & Private citizens of giving false information to the nation. He stands by his word that the engines are new, however he never turned over the complete documentation on the power plant for inspection. The more he maintain his stance on this matter, the more the WPP continue to experience mechanical failure. Mr Spencer, your words are not the Bible. Until you turn over the burden of proof for the WPP, your word means nothing to us. While you continue with your defence, the nation is plagued with enormous electricity bills due to high fuel variation cost from a power plant which you said will be fuel efficient. I am urging you to make the sacrifice and commence with a commission of inquiry because by your action, the nation cannot trust you to launch an investigation to investigate yourself. If you ever had love for your country and people, i humble beg of you to do the honourable thing and call a COMMISSION OF INQUIRY. The more you ignores the peoples wish, the more you expose your deceptive ways.
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@ Dr Dredd

#38 Jackie Spence » 2012-07-04 14:09

I note your post: "He used Gaston to add some credibility to the discussion."

I note also that Vere 3rd says "ditto" to your post! I therefore think that it seems clear that you both agree that Gaston Brown must be seen as "credible" (to use your own words).

If nothing else you guys have both sought to "Big Up" Mr Brown - even if the opposite was really your intention! :-* :-* :-* ;-)

Read more: http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/news/latest/100976-browne-needs-clarity-on-pm-s-wpp-stance.html#ixzz1zg7AYl5c
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@ fnpsr

#37 Morris » 2012-07-04 13:15

I am sure that a change in approach could yield some very valuable information on this entire fiasco. Rather than pushing against an administration that is hell bent on rebuffing every attempt be honest and accountable to the public, perhaps the opposition could form their own delegation to embark on their own fact finding mission through diplomatic means. They can engage all the foreign entities involved and inquire about processes from start to finish etc. I know the response(s) will be lack of funds, but I am sure they can organize some fund raisers to support the effort. "A little knowledge that acts is worth infinitely more than much knowledge that is idle".

It is
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We need to know we got value for the money!

#36 Dig It » 2012-07-04 13:04

It is really sad that "integrity" is no way to be found among our "leaders!" They have no love of "country" as much as they "professed" it to the people! They are only concern with their own political "ambitions" and how good they look with the "media houses," and, not the "sweat of their brow!" The "electrorates" are tired of hearing all "talks" and "no action" to get to the "truth" by those who "promised" to be "transparent" and those who are supposed to "fight-their-ca use!" Whether it is a inquiry or investigation, the bottom line is the people should know they got "value for the money!" No one is "pressuring" the PM, so, he thinks he could sit and ride out the scandal behind WPP!
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re: morris

#35 fnpsr » 2012-07-04 12:38

Morris, here is more argument for the motion: See tenman’s post at » 2012-07-04 11:14

The “Techs” who went to China to oversee the manufacturing and testing of the engines, observed problems with the testing of the sampled engines, reported such and recommended a second visit to determine if the problems were remedied. The powers that be failed to ensure that the “techs” return to china to ensure that the problems previously identified were corrected and that the engines were fully functional. Because the powers that be failed to ensure that the engines were fully functional before acceptance, accepted defective engines. These defective engines are unable to perform according to specifications, leaking oil, rusting prematurely, browning out on a regular basis, requiring significant maintenance, resulting in significant downtime and have resulted in additional expense to the taxpayers, which were not anticipated. All of this could have been avoided had they simply followed the recommendation of the “techs” to return to China for another visit.

Let’s fix the little things with RWE before we attempt to fix the big things.”
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RE: Browne Needs Clarity on PM’s WPP Stance

#34 VERE BIRD III » 2012-07-04 12:25

As a private citizen, I neet to hire you to get the information about the Waddalli Power Plant through the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. If the government refuse the information I want you to take it to court. Let me know if you can do it and how much it will cost. This is for real because enough is enough. Too much garbage is going on in Antigua and nothing is being done. Anyone who is country first and want to join me is free to do so.
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RE: Browne Needs Clarity on PM’s WPP Stance

#33 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-07-04 12:21

They were new when they left China,however they are old now.We dont want them,send them back.New or old why would you go and purchase those outdated gas guzzlers to kill us with fuel variation rates.SEND THEM BACK A CHINA OR ELSE WE WILL SABOTAGE APUA BY STOP PAYING ALL BILLS.
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RE: Browne Needs Clarity on PM’s WPP Stance

#32 @Fnpsr » 2012-07-04 12:18

I totally agree with you so I am going to start this my own investigation as an Antiguan citizen. I am going to follow exactly what you said and put all politicians to shame and also the citizens of Antigua that is living there. You cannot always trust politicians to do the right thing. So thank you my brother Antiguan.
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When they left China

#31 It Is Me » 2012-07-04 11:55

The PM said ... "they were new engines when they left China" ... I suppose based on his statement that he David Shoul and the APUA engineers was at the warf in China inspecting them before the engines left China.
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re morris

#30 fnpsr » 2012-07-04 11:41

Morris, I also agree with you. I would like to add Vere Bird III and Sir Gerald Watts.

However, the problem is that everybody is part of the problem. They are probably afraid because they don't want to be known for suing the government because they don't want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. Translated, self first and island and anything else second. Notice the silence even among the bloggers, except for you and a few others.

"Let's fix the little things with RWE before we attempt to fix the big things."
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Microwave Chef

#29 tenman » 2012-07-04 11:14

Microwave Chef, well said. In addition, the techs who went to China recommended another visit (which never happened) due to the problems they observed with the testing of the sampled engines.

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RE: Browne Needs Clarity on PM’s WPP Stance

#28 Ian Best » 2012-07-04 11:08

PM call the inquiry now ! Call the inquiry now ! Gaston, you used your genuineness to expose Spencer as someone who cannot be trusted who is involved in a xxxxr xp. People like me trust you implicitly and in due course people will understand who the real Gaston Browne is. History will absolve you from all of the lies and innuendos. Stay strong.
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Skyewill

#27 Maco » 2012-07-04 11:05

Tell me you are joking whwn you said that the PM has but the newor used issue to rest. The PM is shaking in his boots and wishing this thing will go away. He and his counterpart are having sleepless nights trying to get this issue to die and that cant do the quickest and easiet thing and that is to reproduce the documentation for the plant. They would love to but they cant as they know the truth will burty them. This is the most barefaced robbery in our history.
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What do you expect?

#26 Maco » 2012-07-04 10:51

I am not surprised of the answer. The PM and DS cannot survive any investigation into WPP and so will not willingly sanction one. After all what do you expect? This is major allegations of corruptionof which they have drank the wine and may cause blood to flow.
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RE: Browne Needs Clarity on PM’s WPP Stance

#25 Smoke n Mirrors » 2012-07-04 10:43

I was talking to a young person just the other day and asked them if they were going to vote. They told me point blank that they would not even register to vote. Reason being that there is no one worth voting for. I've heard of the "lesser of 2 evils" but what if there isn't a lesser one?

Politicians on both sides jus sick me tummock deez days. :-x
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@ fnpsr

#24 Morris » 2012-07-04 10:24

I completely agree with you. It bafles me that the country is overrun with lawyers, yet none of them sees the need to say enough is enough. Perhaps they can get people like Max Hurst, Lester Bird, and Cutie Benjamin to consider such a move.
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@Dr Dredd

#23 Vere C. Bird III » 2012-07-04 10:02

Ditto!!!
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and the band plays on - part 2 & final

#22 fnpsr » 2012-07-04 09:39

In the article, “A Case for a Commission of Inquiry” by Everton Barnes, CA, July 3, 2012, it appears to me, inter alia, to be a good outline for the motion. Anything less than a lawsuit will only have this back and forth discussion without accomplishing anything.

If you don’t dare to fight you do not deserve to win.

“Let’s fix the little things with RWE before we attempt to fix the big things.”
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E NEW

#21 Skyewill » 2012-07-04 09:38

E new, the PM say as far as he know, it is new, he did the checks, he sent people over to make sure everything was everything so he's happy with that. I don't agree that all the break downs should be expected but as for the issue of USED or NEW is settled for the PM. Now the PM can go onto getting the economy on track and creating new jobs and lowering food prices, energy cost and taxes a chicken in every pot!
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and the band plays on - part 1

#20 fnpsr » 2012-07-04 09:38

“And the band plays on!” I have previously outlined three scenarios under which the information could be gotten to ascertain the truth of the matter pertaining to the WPP. I will repeat them here. There are (1) FOIA, (2) independent investigation or Commission of Inquiry (COI) and (3) a lawsuit.

We know the problems inherent under the FOIA. You are not going to get the information. The PM is not going to investigate himself. The GG is not going to authorize a COI. The PM basically says that nothing is wrong – end of story!

The only option, in my mind is a robust lawsuit. While many have said that this is expensive and time consuming, it is the only way to get through discovery what you couldn’t get through the FOIA or the investigation or the COI. There are many attorneys in Antigua and for the good of the country, they could offer their services “pro bono”.
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@ morris

#19 Skyewill » 2012-07-04 09:26

A Stratavarius is not a fiddle - The name "Stradivarius" has become a superlative often associated with excellence; to be called "the Stradivari" of any field is to be deemed the finest there is.
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GAME OVER

#18 Skyewill » 2012-07-04 09:18

A brilliant move by the PM, he distroyed the new/used agrument and now have the power to use that theory in his favor. As far as he know they new and that's that. and that people out there maybe getting paid to say it's used, ask Gaston, now kneel down and kiss the Godfather's ring. LMAO
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You lie!!!!

#17 Microwave Chef » 2012-07-04 09:02

Quote:
They were new engines when they left China. They were tested and examined not only by our technicians but by MAN – the German Company, under whose license the Chinese manufactured these engines,” Spencer said.
YOU Lie , unless these engines left China in 1980 and where used to propel the ship they came, on a real slow boat from China taking about 25 years to reach Antigua.
MAN has nothing to do with these engines the are made under licensee in china from an old German design for these engines that they sold to china.
MAN Germany has nothing to do with these physical engines according to MAN that's why there was no representative from MAN Germany at the Pressed conference, or maybe chef is the liar and the engines are brand new Chef can proof that Man has nothing to do with these engines can D2.PMBS say the same???
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re: Slythatguy

#16 fnpsr » 2012-07-04 09:01

Slythatguy, I know that you mightthink that I would be the last person to give you a complement or agree with you, but I am sure by now you know that I call a spade a spade, a ball a ball and a strike a strike, without deference to color of party; but I have to say your post was well thought out. "Well said!!".

"Let's fix the little things with RWE before we attempt to fix the big things."
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RE: Browne Needs Clarity on PM’s WPP Stance

#15 Sea Greene » 2012-07-04 09:00

Dadliman, it doesn't matter where Gaston join's the fight. He is in the fight and everyone should now be singing from the same page to force an investigation. You can have your fight for chairmanship afterwards.
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RE: Browne Needs Clarity on PM’s WPP Stance

#14 DadliMan » 2012-07-04 08:48

At this point Gaston has turned off everyone with his ridiculous antics. After months of pouring cold water on every fire that the few working members of the ALP have attempted to start, he is now trying to take the lead on as issue that has long passed him by. While everyone has been calling for a public inquiry for months, he has been in the Snake Pit accusing his colleagues of taking money to say that the engines are old. The only thing that has changed in the last week is that Gaston now realises that he has become totally irrelevant. I seriously doubt that Gaston can retain the chairmanship of the party if a convention were held today. Gaston’s threat of protests may be a guarantee that the effort will be doomed to failure.

For the life of me, I cannot see why Gaston would need clarification on this matter. Baldwin has been very clear from the beginning. He has consistently refused to investigate this or any other matter of impropriety with his administration.
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Gaston is a political baby

#13 Dr. Dredd » 2012-07-04 08:44

Dr. Dr. BS has just shown how much more politically savvy he is than Gaston. There will be no inquiry, no investigation. Nothing. He used Gaston to add some credibility to the discussion. And that is all.
BS has to protect xx, who is his puppetmaster. Do you think xx dines and wines him and takes him to Mayo Clinic for nothing?
When xx says jump, BS just jumps.
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#12 Fred » 2012-07-04 08:26

Tenman, you are so right, an independent investigation would expose the Government and is better than no investigation. It is unreasonable to expect the Prime Minister in such a difficult time to spend over three million on an inquiry. I think Browne's strategy was the right one. The Labour Party should accept an independent investigation if offered. Gaston said to me, that as far he is concerned, the Prime Minister has conceded defeat in defense of WPP by not calling an investigation and is a resounding loser.
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#11 Hmm » 2012-07-04 08:16

I also support an inquiry to clear the air once and for all. However I agree with at least one thing the Spencer said no matter what evidence is made available by him, some people will still not accept. I dont believe any money was passed and no one here in Antigua benefited from this deal. If anything we were probably given sub standard equipment by the Chineese. I do also accept the fact that engines alone do not make up a Power Plant so we do need a break down of all the cost involved for the building, and other equipment. What people must also realize, the engines being down does not necessarily mean that they have problems. With the salt air/water and usage regular maintenance needs to be conducted to ensure that these engines last.
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#10 Anonymous » 2012-07-04 08:07

Baldwin played himself. Gaston had nothing to lose. If Baldwin had followed through and have an investigation it would have been better for him. Gaston met with him in good faith and Baldwin responded in bad faith undermining public confidence in himself. Its good to see that Gaston has held the moral high ground and did not respond in kind. Now is the time for ALP to go for the jugular instead of fighting each other ( or stop fighting down Gaston since I do not get the impression that he is fighting but merely standing his ground.)
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RE: Browne Needs Clarity on PM's WPP Stance

#9 SlyThatGuy » 2012-07-04 08:05

Looking at the situation closely,one might be able to judge why leaders of the Antigua Labor Party (ALP) are having so much difficulty in their fight against the Government. One thing that has been proven about them in this long,hard battle is that they don't have any real power to force the Prime Minister to reveal or turn over documents related to the Wadadli Power Plant,nor do they have any real power to force him to call a commission of inquiry to investigate issues related to the power plant and the sporting fences. This lack of real power has cause these leaders to become completely incapable - after nearly eight months of arduous toil,they have accomplished nothing! Not one of them can boast being successful in investigating any of these cases to at least get the evidence they're seeking so as to make it possible to go after the Prime Minister. Just say that this group of leaders is more disappointing in what it fails to do than helpful in what it does,because when they had the legal opportunity to bring a vote of "no confidence"in the Prime Minister,what did they do? They didn't do it.
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#8 Jackie Spence » 2012-07-04 08:04

Just suppose the PM calls an investigation.. .then will you guys be praising Brown? In any case that's a mute point now since "Senior" ALP members have blocked the Investigation Route! It seems PM BS has played the said "Senior" members of the ALP like spoilt children - all because of their own selfish egos!

If i was being paid to peddle information I wouldn't want the Gravy Train to be interrupted either - unless I was prepared to put country first!

In addition Lester has his own agenda! This is all so confusing that even I would want an Inquiry to have some of them ALP "Senior" members on the stand to answer questions. However, don't hold your breath.
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independent investigation

#7 tenman » 2012-07-04 07:48

I am for an independent investigation, no matter the form. With the exception of the Don Mitchell, APUA investigation, the government keeps showing it fears independent investigations into its conduct. I happen to think that if the Don Mitchell recommendations had been followed we would not be in the mess we currently are with the WPP. Government actions show that its at least an aider of corruption since it shuns transparency and accountability which an independent investigation would bring. Perhaps the fear of an investigation comes from the Don Mitchell report which basically faulted not only APUA but Cabinet showing that they did not follow proper procedure.


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Investigation

#6 Baldwyn S » 2012-07-04 07:42

Me nar call no inquiry or investigation.. .a fu me decision! Me know them other UPP Ministers ah whisper behind me back. Let them go ahead me sure me can win fu me seat. Even dangerous Lovel are shake in he boots. All the roads he put na seem to be helping he.

Me hab de church men an dem with me so me na kay! Mek dem continue to push me!
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#5 Hmmm » 2012-07-04 07:18

The double D PM is way out of his league with this. Whosoever is feeding him his information needs to be locked up.
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Pure "BS"

#4 young analyst » 2012-07-04 07:17

i cant believe what is just read pure 'BS' waste of time and money, all the facts are there, they were new engines when they left china. I say inquiry publicly because if everything was as he say then there wont be any fracas about the engines end of story. PUBLIC INQUIRY me say!!!
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@ Gaston Browne

#3 Common sense » 2012-07-04 06:58

HA HA HA GASTON !. With all your intelligence you made the man who cannot count to a million make a mockery of you. Remember country first not personal agenda.
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RE: Browne Needs Clarity on PM’s WPP Stance

#2 Morris » 2012-07-04 06:27

Gaston, why act surprised that you have not received a response, isn't that the norm? The truth is, you set yourself up and the PM played you like a fiddle.
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#1 Wowie » 2012-07-04 06:08

Baldwin has been badly advised on this one. He should have called he investigation to kill all the speculation. Then again the engines may well be old or money passed.
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