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**KJCH** » 2012-05-24 11:21

No! something is wrong he Mr Southwell said "No one came to me and sought my co-operation," he said. "The DCA is not involved in this matter. I met with the developers some weeks ago, in the presence of Minister Baptiste, and we all came to an agreement on the way forward." Now u know he a lie right they .......no one sought his cooperation but at the same time he was involve in meeting with the developer where they came to agreement. WOW that is amazing !!!!! I say well done to Hon. Codrington but at the same time the situration could have been handle better(Communic ation) between the ministers and Mr Southwell.

And Mr Southwell and Minister Baptist was out of order Hon Codrington is responiable for DCA .....so why is Minister Baptist in a meeting with DCA ACTING Chief and not as well the Minister with responibility for DCA.And Minister Baptist you are out of order to be making agreements (deals) the law cleanly states what should and shouldnot happen. You should be sent to jail for allegedly breaking the law of the land

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**OUTOFANTIGUA** » 2012-05-19 09:37

GLAD TO SEE U WAKE UP MISTER MINISTER ITS LONG OVER DUE. YOU ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AND MUST REMEMBER YOU ARE ELECTED AND NOT SELECTED LIKE THE DOCTOR.THE SITUATION IN OUR COUNTRY IS REACHING A BREAKING POINT, AND MR. CHANDLER REMOVING ILLEGALLY ERECTED GATES IS JUST ONE OF THE LITTLE THINGS TO FIX. LEAVE THE U.P.P PARTY NOW BEFORE U SINK WITH IT. NOW THAT YOU LOOSE THE **ERFLIES IN YOUR BELLY TIME TO CLOSE YOUR FIST,STARTING WITH THE NEXT CABINET MEETING. STAND UP FOR YOUR COUNTRY AND DO THE RIGHT THING.

**Hmmmmm** » 2012-05-19 08:05

You seem to be the expert on this beach topic. Please tell me where is the land based beach access for Mill Reef. Why are you side stepping this question. Is your bread **ered from those developers?

**BEEF** » 2012-05-19 00:19

I agree with you 1000%

**tenman** » 2012-05-18 23:36

"It is me" if you need official confirmation that this is a public road, listen to the audio clip on http://www.antiguaobserver.com/?p=75571 where the Acting Chief Town and Country Planner, Frederick Southwell, makes it clear near the end of the clip, this is indeed a public road

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**tenman** » 2012-05-18 19:28

It Is Me again, it is a public road.

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**Wadadli Blogger** » 2012-05-18 18:58

Chandlah did the right thing. And why does Brother B always look vex. He is in the cabinet of Antigua. He is a minister of government. He is making money while others are struggling to make ends meet. Yet he is always looking and sounding vex. How does someone so angry and clearly not a people person get elected? Who does he run against Satan?

**Nightman** » 2012-05-18 18:53

First they wanna lock down the night clubs at 12 midnight ... now they agree with a developer to close off a beach access at 7pm. Why don't they just lock down the whole country as soon as it gets dark.

Then when you go to ffries beach they have the bathroom facilities open from 8am till 3pm from Monday to Friday (closed on the weekends) ... now most Antiguans / locals go to the beach early morning (5am-7am) or evening time (5pm-7pm) and on the weekends. So who are they making those bathroom facilities for? Tourists only?

**It Is Me** » 2012-05-18 18:36

It is obvious some new legislation should be drafted regarding beach access immediately. It is too confusing right now. All beaches should have a road leading to it that shall not be blocked period. Who do these developers think they are. The obvious question here is was that gate erected on a private road or public road? if it is a private road in the middle of peoples property then it is their right and government must find and make a road leading to the beach for locals ... But if it is the only main road leading to the beach then the gate should of been pulled down the same day it went up. Why should beach goers have to leave their car 2 miles away only to come back and find their car stolen or broken into? And that sand mining excuse is a joke ... are we gonna have to put up gates 2 miles from everywhere sand is to stop sand mining ... what a joke!!!

**tenman** » 2012-05-18 17:29

Hmmmm logically it should allow reasonable access. Even if we were to accept your illogical argument, how does placing a gate there, which is locked at night, ensure public access at all times, which the law calls for?

Quote:

Section 50(5) Where a proposed development is likely to adversely affect the public's ability to access a beach from the landward side, any development permit shall require as a condition a landward public access through the development at all times free of charge.

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**tenman** » 2012-05-18 17:22

Wow I know of no beach in Cedar Valley. There is also a public road which provides access. If its in bad condition then demand government fix it. In addition where private land is concerned the Physical Planning Act 2003, where access to a beach is concerned, calls for the government to go the route of compulsory acquisition unless another agreement could be made.
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**PH.D** » 2012-05-18 16:54

I agree with Antiguan Woman!

**rupert j.** » 2012-05-18 15:40

What is this guy trying to prove that ego triumph over common sense if an agreement was already in place what was the purpose for this exhibition is it a show of stupidity.

**Hmmmm** » 2012-05-18 15:25

Where is the public access to Mill Reef? Public Access does not mean vehicle access. Get your stories straight.

**Wow** » 2012-05-18 15:18

Here is the Minister responsible for DCA removing a gate from private property to allow people access to a simple beach when Mr Ryan can dig a trench across a public access road (which crosses his property) make it difficult for people and their vehicles getting to their homes where they live with their families. Where are our priorities?

**ANTIGUAN WOMAN** » 2012-05-18 15:10

What happen to law enforcement officers? If sand is been stolen,use the law and do something about it.That,s just another one of their excuses,we all know they are Pro,s in making excuses when they mess up,which is 99.9999% of time.

**ANTIGUAN WOMAN** » 2012-05-18 15:04

I,ve been hearing about this gate saga for a while now.Min Baptiste is now saying permission was given by him to erect the gate under conditions(acco rding to him) which i dont buy for one Second. If he knew he had discussions with the developers ,after hearing people been outraged it was his Moral duty to come to the public and explain what he,s now saying,This to me appears like another of this Govt,s disregard and lack of respect for us,I think someone needs to define the role of Govt to the Upp,it is clear that they do not understand.It is not everything that the public should be consulted on,but there are things which should always be bought to us first.Baptiste treated this matter as if it was his own personal space affected,When people go the beach they should stand behind the bars and wait for someones discretion to let them in.It is just time you,ll pack your bundles and move on,this attitude of Monarch of all I survey is not the role of a Govt.

**Jumbee Picknee** » 2012-05-18 14:13

I want an old fashion revolt, and I don't care from whence it came;
Since I want my children to be, as free as they really should be;
What Chandlah did, can be mistaken as a crying shame,
But, can we truely say, that he should be blamed.
Not everything he does is right,
Yet, somehow he understands our fight,
So what he did last night,
may not be politically correct, therefore I am taking bet's,
that he's at the crossroads, waiting there patiently,
for the donkey cart, full with Jumbee...the REVOLUTION ARMY...LET THE REVOLUTION CONTINUE...

aj » 2012-05-18 13:41

video shoot commess in town, pulling down gate commess, whats next I watching to see, because power hunger people always doing **!! What you all expect when you have a weak leader "everyday the bucket go ah well, one day the bottom ah go drop out" its leaking people, God nah see he people for much longer....hahah ahahahahaha....

**young analyst** » 2012-05-18 13:38

so minister Baptist made an agreement sometimes ago alongwith the chairman of dca concerning constructing this gate because of theives ect... I am not seeing why would he wait until the gate was removed to say something smh, r u kidding me and come on news and thing whilst days prior hon chandlar was venting about this gate. Come on people in managemnet better must be done. Well done though wait wait wait bruk it down, our beach them b for.

**wada** » 2012-05-18 13:10

A few issues, there should be absolutely no gate across any public road access to any beach, @J this is a public road not private land. On previous websites regarding this land, there was mention of "3 private beaches". I wrote the company (not Orange) at the time and pointed out clearly that no beach in Antigua is private, they responded and corrected the website. If there is sand mining, then setup a sting operation to catch them in the act, there is only one road to those beaches.

This is not the only beach with access issues, there are still a few to be sorted out, on one occasion I walked around to another beach from Half Moon Bay and was accosted by a security guard. I educated him as to the laws of this fair land and that I have access to every beach in Antigua by law. It must be made abundantly clear to developers the laws governing beach access.

**RAWLSTON POMPEY** » 2012-05-18 13:09

Those charged with the responsibility of conducting public affairs, they must know that other than "...OPENNESS," there may be "...no secret discussions, deals or private arrangements" without public participation, awareness and/or sensitization.

Invariably, these have been known to be fraught with difficulties, chaos and confusion and have led to official embar**ment and all kinds of problems-"...pe rsonal, official and administrative. "

There has to be unity of purpose, communication, cooperation, collaboration and consensus among all interested parties. When the "...tail begins to wag the dog," then the dog must shed its tail.

**AntiguanYouthman** » 2012-05-18 12:41

And another thing : the sidewalk that is apart my property that by law should be un-fenced is used at nights by some vagrants for trafficking stolen items from people's yards, Mr. Minister should I fence it around or call the police?

**AntiguanYouthman** » 2012-05-18 12:25

What about the individual that has to work for 8 in the morning and wants to use the beach at 5 am, is it that this person become disenfranchised because the Minister and T&C Planner made illegal arrangements to have an illegal gate open at 6 or 7 in the morning? Antigua and Barbuda is getting crazier and crazier everyday.

**Anon** » 2012-05-18 11:40

“We advised them to erect the gate, and to keep it locked at night," said Baptiste.
So one member of the government told them to build the gate and another one demolished it after they did. Communication at it's finest......, the sooner this bunch of incompetents are all gone the better.

**Dig It** » 2012-05-18 11:37

It seems that Minister Baptiste and Southwell "deliberately" or just don't care to consult with Chanlah on having the developers put up the gate to deny access to the beach at certain time of the day! And, why wasn't the villagers consulted before the gate was built? It doesn't matter what time of the day, public access to the beach shouldn't not be "compromised!" I agree with the Junior Minister's action in pulling down the damm gate! I am glad he shows some "backbone" on this matter! I hope the Junior Minister not only stand-up for the "injustice" to deny public access to the beach but to the people as a whole in this country!

**Smoke n Mirrors** » 2012-05-18 11:03

Last time I saw MP Baptiste's pic on Caribarena, he had an un**oned shirt with a big gold chain around his neck exposing his hairy chest. Now that there is a photo of him properly attired, his face look like it "gone ah gwassa"
Is it stress? I agree with Chanlah. The beaches belong so the PEOPLE of ANTIGUA!! Any developer wishing to undertake any projects should be told this upfront, plain & simple, in bold capital underline flashing lights type emphasis. Thank you.

**tenman** » 2012-05-18 10:11

j my understanding is this is government land.The observer article hints at this by the following:
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Government minister with responsibility for the DCA, Chanlah Codrington, last night, supervised the dismantling of the gate located on the road to the beach.

j isn't this a public road? Are you aware that by placing the gate there, that it broke the law (Physical Planning Act 2003 section 10 subsection 1)?
Quote:

50. (1) There shall be at least one public landward access to and right of way every beach in Antigua and Barbuda.

J clearly the gate being there was illegal.
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**St. Philip North** » 2012-05-18 09:47

Did DCA go to Long Bay when V.C. want up there to remove the fence from Long Bay so the people of Wilikies could use it. or Jolly beach fence.

j » 2012-05-18 09:13

So the MP went on private land and remove a gate. I wonder how many of you who own land and you fenced it would like for people to remove the fence so they can walk through your property. The owners of the land where not stopping anyone from going to the beach, they where protecting the environment from thieves who under the cover of darkness would go and removed the sand from the beach. only when the beach is destroyed will the locals say some thing just like what happened in Barbuda. Antiguan's still want everything for free, well nothing in this world is free, we also need to take responsibility for our environment whether its litter along the roads, destroying the mangroves or removing sand from the beaches.

**ABC** » 2012-05-18 08:44

I applaud Chanlah, I wonder if the other two got their palms greased.
Valley Church should be next.
Come on Baptiste and Southwell tell us the truth.

**AntiguanYouthman** » 2012-05-18 08:27

thank you MP Chanlah Codrington, these beaches belong to us. You should be the PM. Look for the rest.

**tenman** » 2012-05-18 08:08

How can it be acceptable to have a gate, which does not allow vehicles, some 2 miles from a beech? The presence of the gate is illegal, kudos to those who moved it.

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**Slapping Hand** » 2012-05-18 07:52

Tell me this is not a joke! Maybe if Dr. Dr. PM BS spent more time in Antigua this type of BS would not occur?

I am convinced - TIME FOR UPP TO GO! IT MAY SOON BE TOO LATE TO RECOVER OUR COUNTRY! PLEASE GOD LET THE VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE BE SUCCESSFUL!

**Osbert R. Frederick** » 2012-05-18 07:40

This is the same government who wants us to believe that all is well within their ranks. The truth is that "two man crab (Baptiste and Codrinton) can't live in the same hole". What utter confusion? Again, them make us the laughing stock.

**AntiguanYouthman** » 2012-05-18 07:26

Thank you MP Chanlah Codrington, these beaches belong to us. If there is illegal activities taking place there then call the police, don't build a fence and gate.

**Princessa** » 2012-05-18 07:04

Wait you give a man responsibility over something and then take it away.........Ye s Chanlah you exercise your authority to remove the gate. However it appears to me that Mr. Southwell has no respect for you in terms of you being the minister over DCA, this would mean that he would had have to written you a letter or minute to inform you of the arrangements with Orange Ltd. The real person that should take the BLAME is MR. SOUTHWELL. Sir the other day you removed plants on the sidewalk, Mr. Chanlah was only looking out for the interest of the locals wanting to use the beach.......... ....MR. SOUTHWELL the minister in charge of DCA is Mr. Chanlah so please inform him. GIVE The man the RESPECT MAN.

**eli** » 2012-05-18 07:02

Where was he when they stole the sand over and over? I've seen it with my own eyes.

**R. Berry** » 2012-05-18 06:55

It seems like Chanlah Codrington jump the gun...i just love how well this Government communicates with each other.

**RASTA T** » 2012-05-18 06:46

Brother B i love the look on your face CROSS ANGRY and MISERABLE ready to eat chanlah alive you go guys

**RASTA T** » 2012-05-18 06:43

Come on chanlah you are taking too much on your head right now power has gone to you all brain but all things will come to an end soon

**Robinhood** » 2012-05-18 05:57

Are you a Barbudan, good job sir. Better to be poor
and have your dignity than to live in you own country
and have no control of your own destiny - once again,
good job Mr Codrington. I am not a UPP well wisher but
the truth must be spoken.

JW » 2012-05-18 03:14

Go over to Valley Church beach and remove the gate/chain barrier restricting access to that beach when the restaurant is closed. Thank you very much.

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