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MP Slams New APUA Policy

New APUA PolicyAntigua St John's - APUA Chairman Clarvis Joseph's announcement that the company will disconnect an entire household for one outstanding utility has sparked far-reaching criticism from the community and the opposition political party.

ALP politician Molwyn Joseph told Caribarena.com that the matter could be discussed at the party’s executive meeting on Friday.

He said he could not say with certainty that the move was illegal, but said he suspects it is.

Joseph said on Wednesday, “We’re going to discontinue services… If you owe me for water, you’re owing me for electricity.”


The move, which took immediate effect, reportedly aims to collect the EC$682 M owed to APUA. The government is said to owe $330 M, while statutory corporations owe about $19 M, and private businesses owe an estimated $50 M.

The MP believes the legality of the issue is secondary considering the moral and ethical angles that must be taken into account.

“Government has stated repeatedly that its failure to perform is directly linked to the global recession," Joseph said, "and the same government does not seem to recognise that the people are also suffering because of the recession in terms of their ability to meet their demand because of the heavy taxes put in place in recent years."

He added that Antigua & Barbuda has gone through three consecutive years of negative growth, which has affected jobs and livelihood, with even Social Security falling short in intake.

“If government is making that case, then the same government should give recognition to the fact that the people have equal or more severe difficulty in meeting their demand for same reasons,” the ALP MP said.

He labelled the move as “Draconian,” “heartless,” and “extremely insensitive,” noting that the Authority and the government are taking the option from the people to honour essential bills while still being able to feed themselves.

"This is an extremely vexing issue because it is creating more hardship for the people… I do not believe it is a sensible policy for government to disconnect the service of water because someone is delinquent on his or her electricity bill,” Joseph said.

Examining the issue from a management perspective, the former government minister said he does not see the logic in the decision that failure to pay one bill will deny other services because the people simply will not pay a bill for a service they no longer receive – especially if their other services are paid up.

He suggested that the company would have been better served  to encourage people who actually pay some of their bills to continue doing so.


"From a management point of view, I don't think this measure would improve this situation at all," Joseph said. "It is as foolish from a management point of view as it is from a humane one. I frown upon this decision. APUA will find it is not one that would be eagerly embraced by the people of Antigua & Barbuda.”

Update:

Coming out of the ALP Executive Meeting on Friday night, opposition leader Lester Bird had committed to meeting with Prime Minister Spencer and proposing that the new APUA policy be withdrawn.

The party had also agreed that should that approach fail, it will protest it publicly.

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Just one question for Mr Jarvis

#63 The Wadadli Blogger » 2012-03-27 20:40

I have watched Mr Jarvis at the Wadadli power plant "press conference" and I have heard him on radio speaking recently. He seems to want to blame others before him foe APUA's massive debt. He even went as far as to blame the past administration for buying old engines in the past so that's why they "talk about old engines now".

Mr Jarvis can you tell us what was APUA's debt just before you became chairman in 2006?

And I also heard Mr Jarvis say on radio "if you don't pay me" and "when you owe me." So I guess it's fair to say that he believes APUA is his and not the people of Antigua & Barbuda's ... maybe that explains why nobody can see "his accounts" for "his APUA" !!!
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@Mahela-your comment is quite foolish.

#62 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-03-25 18:08

Are you listening to yourself? Funny Apua was bankrupt since whenever,yet they had $13millon to purchase a building,gut it,then still spending to finish it.When i was a little girl we would play house,our moneys were any piece of broken china ware we could find,along with soda bottle corks.Was that the kind of money they used to purchase the bencorp building,contin ue paying staff,not to mention the additional ones? Because when someone is bankrupt they have no money, been bankrupt for more than ten yrs and still functioning seem questionable to me.
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@Slythatguy

#61 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-03-25 18:01

Who do you want me to blame?? I think some of you just make comments without taking the time to comprehend what you,re saying.Your own words were i quote again "" RECESSION OR RECESSION NOT,WE SHOULD BE PREPARED TO MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS"" Fyi I do agree with you because no one is letting us off the hook. My point,just like we,re expected to meet our obligations with or without recession,same way when we elect a Govt to lead us,we expect them to function with some measure of competence,with or without recession,stran ge that we must meet our obligations to all and sundry,but the Govt has been excused for their non-functioning in the name of recession.Who and where did i cast blame wrongfully?? Clarvis Joseph is chairman of the APUA board,which answers to the cabinet,he happens to be the one who made this all public,meaning its a cabinet Decision,who should i blame ALP?
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claification & SlythatGuy

#60 tenman » 2012-03-25 14:11

Clavis Joseph stated today via Observer radio's Big issues, that the problem with arrears has nothing to do with Residential customers. He says residential people do pay. He says the problem mainly lies with the commercial sector and the way government is paying. SlyThatGuy, in case you missed it, he clearly stated that the people you are attacking (residential customers) are not the issue. SlyThatGuy, its not my fault that you are not familiar enough with pricing to understand how companies price their products/ services in regards to bad debts. Jeseph, also stated the new policy is not geared towards residential clients. His statement also leads me to conclude that his 680 million figure does not add up.
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@ Tenman

#59 SlyThatGuy » 2012-03-25 13:19

No,Tenman,I did not miss that part. But did you expect that the company would deal with the government and the public on the same plane? Absolutely not! It has different methods for dealing with them. In any case, I do not believe you that APUA is overcharging the public for service because of money the government and its affiliates owe the company.You and yours are entitled to your views but it's not a certainty.Stran ge it is that when the government used the global recession to explain the country's poor economy the people did not want to hear it,but they are using it today to justify their inability to pay their bills.Clever,is n't it?
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Elder state's woman

#58 Jane » 2012-03-25 13:05

A version of what
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what we deserve

#57 dirt » 2012-03-25 11:44

i love it cut off everything. They told us lower utility bills and they tricked us. :D
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young analyst

#56 tenman » 2012-03-25 09:55

young analyst the suggestions seems to be residential users. As stated in an earlier post (2012-03-24 19:06), that would make no sense since I can't see how that category would be so much higher than business users (5 times more). It then makes me think that we need to see the figures on their audited financial statement because based whats going on, in the rest of the region, the figures make no sense. I have heard Robin Yearwood say in parliament that APUA has not presented audited financial statements since before 2004. I am yet to hear the PM or someone on the UPP side refute this.


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Some figures are missing

#55 young analyst » 2012-03-25 09:08

"The move, which took immediate effect, reportedly aims to collect the EC$682 M owed to APUA. The government is said to owe $330 M, while statutory corporations owe about $19 M, and private businesses owe an estimated $50 M"

Total Owed EC$682M-EC399M= EC$283 who owes this amount?

Gov owe EC$330M+
Stat owe EC$19M+
Pri Busi owe EC50M+
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EC$399M
I guess his statement is unfinished, looking forward to hear who owes this amount!!!!
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what?

#54 Mavis » 2012-03-25 08:26

Baldwin is a.... I am sorry. I forget i cant say Bozo the clown or else I might have to apologize so I just say its the other name for donkey.
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RE: MP Slams New APUA Policy

#53 john d » 2012-03-25 05:53

current on and off all night i wonder if clarvis going pay for my appliances
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Mahela

#52 nevil » 2012-03-24 23:40

You a typical supporter of UPP. you blame ALP for everything. The last APUA accounts tabled in the house in 2003 showed that APUA made 28M profit. The vegetable market and abatoir were paid from toll revenue and not operating revenue. check your facts before you talk. UPP has not only bankrupted APUA but the whole country. Why dont you and clarvis comment upon the wadadli power plant for 300RMB that should have costed 147 RMB. The lastest 36MW turn key plant from MAN is quoted at 29M euros or 37M US. This is a state of the art environmentally friendly plant dor 1M US per MW at 70% the cost of the old rusty oil and fuel leaking plant with some of the engines now de-rated to 4MW after not even 6months of operation. Go and study that. the UPP too dam thief!
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RE: MP Slams New APUA Policy

#51 Mahela » 2012-03-24 22:44

Who bankrupt APUA? The same people who want to return to power. Are our memories so short that we've forgotten that APUA is still servicing loans for the West Busstation Terminal, the Vegetable Market and the Abatoir?
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SlyThatGuy - get real

#50 tenman » 2012-03-24 22:33

SlyThatGuy did you miss the part of the article where it quotes the chairman as basically stating that government + stat corps owe APUA at least 7 times (349 million vs 50 million) more than local businesses? The tale being told by the Chairman figures, if correct, is that government and its affiliates are basically living off of APUA like parasites. Part of the reason why the public is being overcharged for APUA services must be due to this. In future pricing decisions calculated losses due to bad debts are included.

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Remember Cable & Wireless

#49 TimeWillTell » 2012-03-24 22:29

Remember when Cable & Wireless was a monopoly? Where are they today? APUA in on that same path. When they get some serious competition they will want the same little man and woman they are looking down upon. I've made up my mind to get an ice-box, and a florescent lamp and I will just view my disconnections as 'hurricane season' for we just experieced Hurricane APUA.

Call de elections now!!!!!!! :-x
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@ Antiguan Woman

#48 SlyThatGuy » 2012-03-24 22:15

Antiguan Woman,I think it's shameful the way you and others go about blaming this government for every thing. Stop making these sorry excuses! If you received a service,it's your obligation to make on-time payment. It's curious how some people can find money to frequent dances and parties every weekend but bawl when the bills are due.
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APUA IS A GOVT TORTURE TOOL

#47 galileo » 2012-03-24 22:02

clarvis is such an idiot for the mere fact that he is getting free utilities,he doesnt realize that we can choose to stay in the dark and he will be out of job and since APUA will be out of business .APUA is like a parasite and the time has come to end APUA's monopoly.it is such a backward society to have the majority of ppl suffering spending more than 30% of income to pay utilities not including even ac units or heaters in those households...th is is criminal . The technology is available to power a whole community with renewable energy using solar panels,wind turbines,biofue ls etc.time to end that **ed monopoly.
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so sorry

#46 purcell » 2012-03-24 21:33

what i realize its only 2 person that goes against the grain of comments ,maybe they are paid.
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Who Clarvis Joseph think he is?

#45 Justice » 2012-03-24 21:09

Who does this man think he is? He think APUA is his Caribseas company? I dare him to do it.....and he will see how fast he is removed from that chairperson seat.....He should resign for that crazy statement. Now we know why APUA is so mismanaged, we can only imagine the nonsensical decisions that are being made internally. I really cannot believe this man actually said something like that......sicke ning :-x
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@SLYTHATGUY

#44 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-03-24 20:50

You made such an important point,i quote(Recession or recession not,we are expected to meet our obligations)So recession or recession not,we need a govt who can help us meet those obligations,all the more reasons why the united progresssive party govt should take us back to the polls,because we cannot meet our obligations under their captaincy.
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RE: MP Slams New APUA Policy

#43 SlyThatGuy » 2012-03-24 20:39

This is to clarify my earlier post: I agree that the company should discontinue service in an attempt to collect its money,but only the service for which the bill is outstanding.Thu s, if the water bill is overdue,the customer should not lose electricity service,because that's not where the problem lies.
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APUA's audited financial statements

#42 tenman » 2012-03-24 20:28

Obtained from section 17 of THE PUBLIC UTILITIES ACT
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(2) The Authority shall keep proper accounts and other records in respect of its operations, and shall cause to be prepared a statement in respect of each financial year. (3) The accounts of the Authority shall be audited by auditors to be appointed annually by the Authority. (4) The Authority shall, before the commencement of each financial year, submit to the Minister for the information of the Parliament a copy of its income and expenditure budget, in relation to such year. The Minister shall cause copies of such budgets to be laid on the table of each Chamber of the Legislature. (5) After the end of each financial year, the Authority shall, as soon as the accounts of the Authority have been audited, cause a copy of the statement of accounts to be transmitted to the Minister, together with a copy of any report made by the auditors on that statement or on the accounts of the Authority. The Minister shall cause a copy of every statement and report to be laid on the table of each Chamber of the Legislature.
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HC

#41 tenman » 2012-03-24 20:12

HC I suspect time will prove you correct. The figures do not add up. How can any company exist, meeting monthly payroll with the kind of arrears, the chairman alleges. The figures have to be inflated. Now if the public were given access to audited financial statements, for an entity they own, we would not have to ask these questions. These documents we are legally entitled to see. I cannot beleive numbers from a company which refuses to be transparent.

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RE: MP Slams New APUA Policy

#40 HC » 2012-03-24 19:51

Gross lie,I dont believe apua is owed that kind of money.They have drained the company with the purchase of the bencorp building,and bursting at the seams with political appointed employees.Why the hell should we be the ones to suffer. Time long past to see the back of this govt,them just really to wicked man.
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@GET IT

#39 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-03-24 19:43

If i could vote for your comment a thousand times i would,i have been echoing those sentiments from way back ,it should not take this for us to say Enough,the rates alone should have been enough for us to all decide this wont do. As i said before how can we be soo silent at a time like this when this same Govt promised to lower the electricity bills? It is time we decide to make some sacrifices in order to get what we deserve,they cannot disconnect 80% of the population, lets just stop paying them,they are arrogant and should be thought a lesson.Apua provides essential services and should be within reach of the poorest man,when you saddle people with these ridiculous bills how do they expect us to be current with payments,especi ally when most persons salaries remain stagnated for yrs now.This as an outrage.
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TIME FOR THE UPP TO GO.

#38 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-03-24 19:27

Clarvis and others who came up with this plan is heartless and should be ashamed and the people of Antigua/Bar should be outraged at this.Lets start the protest now,we do not have to wait on politicians.APU A has been bleeding us dry for too long now,instead of easing the squueze,they are tighten it a little more.Hearing this from the chairmans mouth,tells me one thing this is a decision made by the wicked cabinet,had it been just from the apua management who runs the day to day business of the authority,it would have come from other areas.This Govt seem to take pleasure in our suffering.
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Perplexed

#37 tenman » 2012-03-24 19:06

Perplexed agreed that people are having problems paying. However 680 million dollars in arrears reflect more than problems with domestic customers. Are you suggesting that people in the other islands have more disposable income than Antiguan's & Barbudan's? Why is it that LUCELEC has a AR which represent something like 10% of what exists in Antigua? I also have an issue with the amounts presented in this and the Observer article because no one has stated specifically that the remaining 283 million represents arrears for domestic users. I would find this difficult to beleive when the arrears for businesses are only 50 million yet they more easily have access to generators. In addition by dealing with some of the waste which currently exist, APUA will be able to make the service less expensive.

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MP Slams New APUA Policy

#36 SlyThatGuy » 2012-03-24 18:57

I agree with the measure APUA is about to attempt in collecting its money.Why should the company continue to provide service to customers with long-standing debt,allowing the debt to get even bigger? Some customers can pay now;they choose to hold out as long as the company would allow them. But recession or no recession,we should be prepared to meet our obligations.
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C. Joseph has to pay for Bancorp!

#35 Yankee » 2012-03-24 18:41

Molin! How do you expect Clavis to pay to service them old Chinese engines? Plus 32 million for bencorp?
Oh and he needs More revenu to buy spare parts from his xxxxx xxxx /xxxxt !
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@TENMAN

#34 Perplexed » 2012-03-24 18:34

the people dem no hab no money for pay all dem bills at once. Many people are having to juggle, pay electricity this month in full, pay water bill next month etc...... so while your suggestions are good, dem can offer discounts from now til eternity and people still will have problems paying until the economy gets better and people are back at work. Oh and the cost of these utilities go down.
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Rate too high

#33 nevil » 2012-03-24 18:03

APUA needs to review its tariff as it is too high. APUA purchases power from APC for $.173, use $.43 in fuel and approx $.20 (est) for distribution. The current unit domestic rate is $.40 + $.79=$1.19. The gross profit per unit is at least $.387. for 30,000,000 unit per month for a gross profit of $11.61M. I must say here that I have no information about what proportion of the 30,000,000 is actually billable or what proportion the Govt or businesses consume but I know that the commercial rate is much higher than $1.19 domestic rate. If government pays at leat the cost of $.80 then APUA can lower its tariff to both businesses and households. the high commercial tariff affects businesses negatively. Lower rates will make electricity more affordable and reduce AR level as well as increase business opportunities which can stimilate demand and the economy as a whole. Other conservation measures and alternative energy sources shold be pursues eg. solar powered street lights.
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RE: MP Slams New APUA Policy

#32 UNITED STATES » 2012-03-24 17:53

Apua can do this because they have the monopoly over their customers.Here in Massachusetts all of my utilities are offered by different companies.That is why the rates are competitive and you have choices.The city runs the water and sewer,electric, gas,cable and telephone are all private enterprises.
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some suggestions part 2 of 2

#31 tenman » 2012-03-24 17:08

8. Its time for APUA to rationalize its staff, over 800 employees is far to much, there should be at least a 50% cut. Yes times are hard but at least a plan must be put in place for this move, for when things get better. Employees should be alerted early if and when they will be affected so they can start looking now for jobs and retraining could start.
9. Time to follow though on having sales staff motivated with commissions selling APUA products
10. Time for APUA's information systems applications to be updated, so that the mostly manual data management process will end: One aspect of this would be to allow customers to pay their bills online. Another would be to provide an automated service where customers can check their bill online and via phone.
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some suggestions part 1 of 2

#30 tenman » 2012-03-24 17:00

Let me offer some suggestions to APUA.
1. Work our a policy with employees eg(in Billing and Control) that they will be given a percentage based on how many of the long standing AR they are able to collect.
.2 Introduce a policy where delinquent customers who are unable to pay, will get access to a prepaid type service, similar to what exists in DR
3. Improve your credit control systems to ensure there is no repeat of this mess
4. Extend the discount offered to customers who pay their electricity early, also to customers who pay their telephone early.
5. Ensure that the staff who deal with credit control and properly trained and equipped to do their jobs.
6. Present financial reports to the general public who its claimed have shares in APUA, so that they can start to feel as if they really own this entity.
7. The effect of doing the above may help APUA in controlling waste, where customers/owner s will report attempts to rob APUA
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MaeStro - fire the management

#29 tenman » 2012-03-24 15:03

MaeStro, the added question is will they crazily try to collect a reconnection fee for all services disconnected due to one being in arrears?

My added question is how could a company allow 2.17 years (they make around 26 million in revenue monthly) of its revenue to be in the accounts receivable category? This gives the company a accounts receivable turnover (ART) which is less than 1. I decided to take a quick look at Saint Lucia and see what obtains there. For 2010 their (LUCELEC) AR was $59,782,912 while revenue was $276,270,465 which gives them a ART of almost 5 . The high AR figure from APUA is bloated and indicates much of this figure will need to be written off. Apua's ART being less than 1 and the situation is not mirrored in the region, clearly indicates that this company's management is inefficient.
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RE: MP Slams New APUA Policy

#28 DadliMan » 2012-03-24 14:48

Yet another well thought-out policy by this brain-dead administration. Clarvis must not have been enjoying one of his rare sober moments. So tell me Clarvis, when someone owes for water and you disconnect their electicity, telephone and Internet services, how does that help APUA? Will that poor consumer be required to pay the re-connection fee on all of the utilities?

This administration has decimated the poor and middle cl** with excessive taxes. Where do they expect people to get money from? Most people in A&B have to juggle the payment of their bills these days - thanks to the UPP. These guys need to wake up and smell the bush tea.
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The Kings Palace

#27 MaeStro » 2012-03-24 14:11

Could King Chairman also while he is in a talking mood tell us the what his Glass Palace at the top of High Street has cost us to date and I would prefer the real numbers. I believe in fact I know I hear the Palace will be ready by the end of June or there abouts so they should have a pretty good idea of cost to date including the purchase price.

On another note while on building readiness the other King of Revenue reform said Inland Revenue would have been in thir palace at Woods by mid December 2011 we are at the end of March 2012 and no movement Hmmmm.
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List incomplete plus what is the PLAN?

#26 MaeStro » 2012-03-24 13:54

I believe Clarvis forgot to add Inet and IMobile services. Oops maybe I should not have reminded him. Sorry folks look out for an amended list from King Chairman on Monday.

Another important bit of detail King Chaiman for to inform his peasants about is exactly how is his ILL-conceived plan is expected to work. Is it when a disconnection notice is generated for say water they will ask the electricity crew to go along with them? And how are they going to accurately identify the phone for the said client given people with the same name live in the same village?

Or is the anger and hostility I hear from King Chairman really directed at the business community for which all services are easily identifiable?
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Clue me in pt2

#25 Colin » 2012-03-24 13:22

Let me see, now ...
APUA has 682m on the street ...
Government alone - the chief abuser of APUA - owes 33om ...
The amounts owed by Statutory corporations and businesses combined (a mere 69m) - if paid in full immediately - would barely dent the total outstanding ...
APUA conducts regular disconnection programs to minimise delinquency ...
So ... you mean to tell me that APUA will continue to give a free ride to the chief abuser ... and put the hammer on households?
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Reaction needed.

#24 jeb » 2012-03-24 12:53

A complete overhaul is needed…not least of all the freebies for the numerous civil service and cronies of same. Credible word has said for years now that as soon as freebs are obtained the electric luxuries move in instantly. Air con in EACH room, dryers, state of the art movie equipment, gas stove replaced by state of the art electric, dish washer, high end refrigerator/s, wine cooler, swimming pool, fancy lighting and TV in every room and so the list goes on. APUA and we, the average public, are paying for this and it is abusive nonsense that needs to be stopped NOW. @get it is right. We need to unite; it cannot work by being a case of the few who care going out to protest for the majority who just sit and complain behind closed doors about the deplorable state of affairs affecting every aspect of average life at this time. It cannot be a case of waiting for the ALP to ‘wave a magic wand’ and solve the problems…Becaus e of the way the system is set up the people have to get out there and protest before the suppression becomes totally dictatorial aided and abetted by Chinese money…if life is bad now it will be a hellhole under that situation.
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The Abuse of APUA

#23 Avid Reader » 2012-03-24 12:22

What C. Jopseph says is silly, but the problem with APUA is the abuse of APUA that needs to be addressed by every Antiguan. When a politician can call up APUA for one of their friends or constituients who owes money and don't want to pay, and have APUA cancel a disconnect, that is outrageous.

These people never bring their bills up to date and they are usually the ones with money. The politicians in Antigua are currently the cause of what is wrong with APUA, Molwyn Joseph needs to address these problems.
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power to the people

#22 Get it » 2012-03-24 12:12

Can you imagine what we can do if we were united?
Can you imagine what APUA can do if we the people decide no more?
Can you imagine if we all decided we are not paying at all . we are marching in front of APUA until not only the government kick this ridiculous decision but until government lower all utilities prices?
Can u imagine?
I guess u can't.
Pity we can't unit for ourselves.
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Stop giving free utilities to the selected elite!

#21 Morris » 2012-03-24 12:05

This should serve as both a teachable moment for our leaders, and as a reason to reconsider the privileges extended to the selected elite. Now that the dust has settled and revealed that the current financial situation in ANU is very dire and prevents many from meeting their monthly obligations, how much longer does the gov't expect the already struggling citizens to shoulder the burden of paying the utilities of the selected elite? If this isn't reason enough to reconsider removing that yoke from the necks of the poor citizens, then I don't know what else will promt them to change that ridiculous practice.
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RE: MP Slams New APUA Policy

#20 HTH Peppersauce » 2012-03-24 11:39

Counting Statutory corporations, the government accounts for over 50% of your A/R. Wouldn't that be the best place to start? Does that mean the high court will be in total darkness Monday AM? Does that mean the police stations won't be able to run their televisions, and the Ministry of Finance is going to have the Air conditioning turned off Tuesday? Not likely.

It looks like you have taken a page from Inland Revenue. The ones who have been paying all along, are the easy targets to squeeze even more out of, while the big guys who have paid NOTHING, continue to pay nothing. That's right Clarvis, make some poor senior citizen sit in darkness because she ran short on the water bill, while the Ministry of Finance keeps the A/C cold enough you could store meat products in the hallways.
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@ tenman

#19 Morris » 2012-03-24 11:34

From the example you gave regarding your family member, it is strange that APUA was quick to point out that a credit could not be made to the account because they are separate services. Yet, Mr. Joseph is claiming that a delinquency in one is considered a delinquency in the others.

From what is revealed in this article, the gov't owes more than 51% ($330M + $19M) of the debt and claims global recession as an excuse for not paying and get away with it. However, the struggling citizens who are more severely impacted by the said global recession are not given any sympathy.
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APUA - Breach Of Contract?

#18 John French II » 2012-03-24 11:13

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. It is Isuues such as these when good women and men should test the limits of APUA, the Public Utilities Act and agitate for a proper Public Utilities Board to regulate this Monopoly.
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"What a band of loathsome vipers has this Nation nursed in its bosom who will let their fellow residents who have fallen on hard times be insulted by this low-born Director!"
"What miserable drones and traitors have the Residents nourished and brought up into their households, who let their patrimony & humanity be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born Chairman?"
"Who shall rid the Residents of this troublesome and vexatious Chairman?"
"L'etat Cest Moi!" "Apres Moi Le Deluge!" He is Now APUA! APUA Is Now He!
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Joseph said on Wednesday, “We’re going to discontinue services… If you owe me for water, you’re owing me for electricity.”
What Hogwash? It can be argued that there are more than one Contract. APUA Structure, Systems and Processes make this clear. The application documents which constitute the Contract leave no doubt.
Any Legal Beagles Here? Heaven Help The Nation Of Antigua & Barbuda.
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De Real Observer

#17 Osbert R. Frederick » 2012-03-24 11:09

Government owes almost 50% of the total amount owed to APUA. Will all of government's services be cut? In addition, I wonder wqhen was the last time Clarvis payed any. This man thinks he is monarch of all he surveys. Clarvis, remember Nebuchadnezar felt the same way and he ended up eating g**. Be carfel.
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RE: MP Slams New APUA Policy

#16 my way of helping » 2012-03-24 11:08

They are the Government you choose, enjoy everyone.
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arrogance

#15 nevil » 2012-03-24 09:52

do you notice that as soon as some people are given authority to act all powerful and mighty without feeling and empathy for the m**. Listen to the tone of the executive director of education and chairman of APUA. Pure arrogance.
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People First or Last?

#14 Poor Issy » 2012-03-24 09:45

Is this a cabinet decicion or a Board decision? Clearly when this decision was taken the campaign slogan "People First " was not taken into consideration. Will someone please explain to me if with this new policy, if the public is still expected to subside politicians utilities bills, this sounds like "People Last"
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Sen me a Pan wid Flambo

#13 Barry » 2012-03-24 09:33

Makes me wonder if policy is made by a board or by individuals! This one sounds as if it was made without any thought or advice (legal or otherwise).
As for cutting services, start with your your biggest debtors and then work your way down to your smallest. That's if you have the law on your side.
Cash flow problems?? Cut your losses and get rid of that gray and blue elephant on the corner of High and East streets. :-*
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RE: MP Slams New APUA Policy

#12 H.N.I.C. » 2012-03-24 09:23

:eek:
I guess its time again to Gird your loins and light your candles.
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Mr Joseph

#11 Mr Sabruski » 2012-03-24 08:56

It looks like the government owes the most money. Are you going to cut off their utilities? If they owe as much as is reported that they owe. How can you as a 'manager' allow them to rack up such a huge bill and do nothing, yet, when a poor man owes you fifty dollars you fly down to their house and start cutting them off. I hope you have the testicular fortitude to cut off the government before you start chasing down the the poor people of this country.If you make a deal with them, you will have to offer the same deal to us.
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Joseph v Joseph

#10 Cool Ruler » 2012-03-24 08:34

when i first saw this in the daily observer, my first thought is can they do this? Molwin is correct is saying this new policy is draconian especially when customers were not given time to prepare for this implemation. Usually customers are told this will be our new policy starting by this date. after I saw this article yesterday I went to look at my Con-Edison bill and I noticed that both gas and electricity is broken down individual with an overall total for both. This means that the monthly bill for both is combined and failure to pay any portion of that bill could result in both services being disconnected.( a quick call to con-ed confirmed this)
in Antigua that is not the case, each service has a separate bill, this has given customer customers the discretion to choose the bill more important to them to pay. The question is, does the APUA act gives the board the power to implement this? It may be a good thing if they start combining all the services on one bill like is done in NY
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really APUA??????????

#9 chuupsssssssssss » 2012-03-24 08:04

I am working n barely surviVing " BARELY" sometimes when I finish paying my bills at the end of month I can hardly eat soooooooo I guess I wouldn't be able to eat at all now ............... ...these big gut ministers don't have to pay ** for they bills but we the poor people have to suffer that shouldn't be
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Is this legal?

#8 MaeStro » 2012-03-24 08:01

If I owe LIME for my cell phone can they turn off my internet even if it’s up to date?
The first person with money that this policy affect will take them to court and I am certain they will win. I apply to APUA for telephone service you cannot bundle all the other services simply because you are the supplier that is both ridiculous and asinine and crazy. Who is the legal advisor for APUA? Did Joseph seek legal advice on this before going public? Was this an IMF suggestion?
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i hate this

#7 purcell » 2012-03-24 07:49

this guy looks and sound like someone that drinks alot ,,dont use emotions to make rash moves son.we ask about engines and u get vex ,the engines are not new and u know that .hope u dont take my companies light
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time for him to go

#6 winston » 2012-03-24 07:42

i am just waiting for that to happen to me because ,what a day that will be ..lawyer get ready.
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time for him to go

#5 winston » 2012-03-24 07:40

this man was on something,how does some one like this gets in on our top position.i was going to purchased a apua cell phone not again,next thing they block my calls because i march about the old ,old ,old,old engines.stop drinking
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strange turn

#4 tenman » 2012-03-24 06:55

A few weeks ago, APUA disconnected the light bill for a elderly family member. In looking at their bills I realized that though the person owed APUA some 180.00 for light, they (apua) owed the person some a hundred and fifty dollars for water, because of a past overcharge. I then asked the question, why did they not simply apply the balance from the water to the electricity. I was informed since these are separate services, its not done. I would have to request in writing it be done. They then informed me that the process could take as much as 3 months. They (includes the Supervisor of Customer Services) added the persons whose name was on the bills would have to do the transfer or would have to provide me power of attorney if I were to initiate the transfer.


APUA plays a dangerous game when they disconnect essential services like Water or electricity for a over due telephone bill. They are a monopoly and therefore should not have powers to do such. In addition the format of the telephone bill provides no transparency (numbers called are not listed). Its is time Antigua had a separate utilities authority to oversee companies like APUA.

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All or nothing

#3 JW » 2012-03-24 06:45

Remember when you cut all for one then i will pay none on all. When you cut all my utility services you cut all my cash flow to you. I am not going to die without services for a few months but imagine what less and less cash will do you APUA over time. Cook's pan water here we come!
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Disconnect Joseph

#2 JP Farnsworth » 2012-03-24 06:26

Lets disconnect Joseph from his job clearly he is confused on who APUA works for. Last time I checked this was the peoples power company.
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What a irresposible Statement

#1 Nine » 2012-03-24 05:30

What a irresponsible and arrogant statement by Mr. Clarvis Joseph

“We’re going to discontinue services… If you owe me for water, you’re owing me for electricity.” Not if you owe APUA, Not if you owe
the Authority. But if you owe ME.

Each utility required a separate contract. The services were never sold as a bundle, yet one man, who OWNS APUA, now decides HE will bundle all utilities. In any developed country that statement would be is sad legacy. He has embar**ed himself and the government.

While we are at it, here's a question to ponder. Isn't it a very poor reflection on ANY govt when one govt agency has to cut a service from another govt agency such as was the case with Port & APUA?
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