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**Lester Baldwin** » 2012-03-21 13:50

I am surprised the Chinese didn't offer the APUA technicians some female escorts as well ... It reminds me after reading that report that you can be university smart but street dumb / fooly. Any street hustler could of spot that the Chinese were trying to hustle them (and did in fact hustle them). I would of not accepted those engines untill I got a full running test of all of them!!!

**Dijon** » 2012-03-21 01:06

Like Jesu Cristo said _You can't put new oil in old engine or something like that. Both oil and engine will perish.
"D ingin will brock dung and aile will mess up d floor"
This saying is ture in Chinese,English or Antiguan and regardless of your political or religious affilation.
" Too bad UPP no read dat part a de Bible"

**galileo** » 2012-03-20 23:34

if indeed these generators are new then is a good deal but if they are used then that is the best deal of the century...yeah it doesnt makes sense,of course it never made sense ,it will only make sense if China ever produce any quality stuff.sense out of nonsense, none of these chinese projects are really beneficial to us both quantitatively and qualitatively unless is for free period,no short term benefits all materials and labour coming from china when unemployment has skyrocketted in Antigua. no long term benefits with cheap inferior materials with short life span only leads to high maintenance cost and high energy consumption.sta dium,power plant,airport same shizzle chupz!

**harry** » 2012-03-20 20:39

According to the document that is attached DG#2 and #5 are de-rated 4MW. That to me is very serious, and you said that they are new. That is 67% efficiency. somebody joking. something needs to be done about this whole ordeal. This is blantant!

**harry** » 2012-03-20 20:34

The whole acceptance and verification process for this transaction was flawed from the beginning. The APUA team as trained or qualified as they may be, do not have requisite training and experience to undertake this assignment. This process requires specialist trained. When the board tried to hire such a firm, i understand that the cabinet turned down the request. If apua wanted to be in that business then it would require specialist training and technicians understudying experienced professionals. I dont think any experienced would have accepted those engines and generators under those conditions. It is also interested to note that they only saw one engine. what about the others?

**Cool Ruler** » 2012-03-20 20:06

See what your talking about Tenman, why oh why that add would be on the page with articles about the **ed ALP I don't know, don't want the madam to be upset with you just ignore it. Lest I be accused of pulling a red herring across the trail, I was showing that people like molwin have no credibility to be casting aspersians at anyone. Mr.hessey did express an opinion but lets say that you had gone to the port on a Sunday and hoist your car over the port fence without permission and not paying the taxes and fees, would hessey have come to the same conclusion? Or would the police be called and you were arrested. Not to mention the speculation about what was hidden in it that could not wait.

**JackieS** » 2012-03-20 19:18

Somebody please tell David and PM BS that this is causing much embar**ment to the UPP party and the Government!

I am ashamed for them and want to warn them that this could result in jail for them if they don't come straight with this.

**Dig It** » 2012-03-20 18:32

It seems that the APUA team was given some "foolie" green tea and left-over roastesd pork, while in China! It amazes me that they would signed-off on the engine and generator, knowing that they had serious communication and planning problems with the Chinese! What was the purpose of the engineers going to China, if they didn't make sure we weren't getting a six-for-a-nine? ? Or, were they given some "bamboos" under the table to turn a blind-eye? We are talking about 47 million dollars of tax payers money, and, we are getting a whole bunch crap from these APUA engineers, who should be ALL "fired!" In all this, why they didn't have a "Chinese Interpreter" with them, if they didn't have one? Why the "Great Negotiator" wasn't there with them, since he speaks Chinese, and, responswible for this deal? What a shame, what a shame?

**Microwave Chef** » 2012-03-20 18:13

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JP Farnsworth » let's set it up so you can choose if you want Chinese electricity or Hadeed electricity. I think competition in the market is good. See who blows up your appliances first.

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hello that award goes to APUA, they have been the leader in blowing up Chef's appliances ( and lying about it claiming the "shaggy" defense) for over 25 years, and that's a record that's hard if not impossible to beat.. But The Brand new Chinese made German designed state of the art 1940 diesel engines are a good start in working your way up to claim the price ... just ask David Shoulin he bought these generators and or the UPP with our tax money. :-*

**tenman** » 2012-03-20 18:00

Cool Ruler, honestly click on the link next to the article you highlighted and you should see what I speak of. By the way where Molwyn Joseph is concerned did the then and current solicitor general Lebrecht Hesse, not give a legal opinion that Joseph did nothing illegal? As I recall it stated "Joseph had not abused his ministerial authority" (see THE FAILINGS OF GOVERNANCE IN ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA THE ELECTIONS OF 1999 by Douglas W. Payne, June 1, 1999, page 22 csis.org/files/media/csis/pubs/ppa&b99elections%5B1%5D.pdf. **Ruler, I can promise you that link will show no porn. Can we admit the same thing cannot be said for the actions of the PM since he broke the very financial and admin act, that his government passed in 2006? Ruler, Lester Bird removed Molwyn from the ministry of finance for his at least unethical actions, who will punish BS for breaking the law?
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**Microwave Chef** » 2012-03-20 17:56

Ahhh thank you , you actually think Chef is funny? great because this worthless generator rip off is actually not funny.
Mind you playing the fool is not that hard a point well proven by PM.BS. the great negotiator Shoulin ,all of the UPP government and hardcore supporters
you guys are better clowns than chef can ever dream to be, yet with all that said the joke is on all of us who will have to pay for the jokes BM.PS makes while marching my beloved Antigua of the cliff. And nobody is laughing over that one( almost every one that is) except maybe once up on a time wanna be PM.. Dr Cort.

**QUEEN** » 2012-03-20 17:46

PEOPLE OF ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA....YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BEND OVER AGAIN FOR THE AIRPORT....GET READY AND HAVE SOME VASELINE READY....AIRPOR T IS GOING TO HURT EVEN MORE.
BUT IT SERVES US RIGHT...WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN WHEN YOU PUT POOR DUNCE PEOPLE TO RUN A COUNTRY..???

**Cool Ruler** » 2012-03-20 17:25

Temnan come on don't try to take away microwave chef job of trying to be the house clown lol . I know your more serious. Anyway using my phone I just click on the same link and don't see what you saw, just scowl down you will see what the say about lester and the rest of them

**tenman** » 2012-03-20 16:56

Cool Ruler what kind of link is that? come better than that. I clicked on it and now I have some porn adds saying things like crazy girls in tight dresses. You now have my wife looking at me with a strange look. Please try and use some credible links with proper sources
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**Peter Josiah** » 2012-03-20 15:19

ALP did it so what if UPP does it too. That's how Coor ruler and many others think. They have completely thrown out the window their leader BS saying "what is wrong will be made right." When we only see things through blue lenses that is what happens.

**Cool Ruler** » 2012-03-20 15:01

Jeb

Is this the same man that was accused of allegedly taking the Rolls Royce over the fence one carnival Sunday while everyone was heading to the calypso show you are asking to keep an eye on the airport terminal? What a joke. This is the same man that was alleged to have acquired some government estate house for next to nothing. Sounds like your asking for ratta to watch the cheese.
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During his tenure as a Government Minister and Prime Minister, Lester Bird along with his brothers Vere Bird Jr and Ivor Bird and compatriots like Molwyn Joseph have driven the name of Antigua into the ground.

zomobo.net/Vere-Bird

**Cool Ruler** » 2012-03-20 14:40

Tenman
I from day one said that I was disappointed in that aspect of this scenario in that the matter never went to parliament. I will not defend that but knowing how things have been working for years since the days of the ALP, the custom was always to do things then go to parliament and retroactively take care of it, after all the ayes have it. Not saying it right in this case but perhaps that’s the thinking. As for the item purchased being of no value well, the jury is still out on that. I concur with the sentiments expressed with Sir Viv on this matter recently.

**JP Farnsworth** » 2012-03-20 14:01

let's set it up so you can choose if you want Chinese electricity or Hadeed electricity. I think competition in the market is good.
See who blows up your appliances first.

**jeb** » 2012-03-20 13:54

The thought comes to mind that aside from any possible monies passed, the engineers (the honest ones) are in a foreign country that does not practice freedom of speech and also (the possibly honest ones) work for a government led and controlled by people who are hell bent on protecting the Chinese no matter what. Would (the conscientious ones that is) engineers be allowed without retribution to publically broadcast what they really saw and experienced in China. The power plant is a disaster ongoing…I really hope that MP Joseph keeps an eye on the new airport. If the terminal is to be constructed by unqualified people from the usual sub standard Chinese products could this not present a possible scenario of risking people’s lives from a collapse of some sort…cracking, sinking and possible sub standard walkways to the aircraft? Examine the external (this is all we are allowed to see) construction of the power plant, maybe I am missing something but I cannot think of any reason why this terminal will be any different. If this terminal does not meet westernized quality and safety codes then the results will be internationally devastating and crushing to Antigua.

**tenman** » 2012-03-20 13:40

Cool Ruler if I were to take your money without permission and buy something for you that turns out to be of no value, am I not in the wrong? The PM broke at least one law of this country, the finance and admin act, by not first having the loan approved by parliament. Ruler, PM BS has admitted he did not follow the law but seems to think that the ends justifies the means (a Machiavelli' idea). Problem is the ends are also showing a bad result. Perhaps if he had followed procedure, we would not have the mess we have now. This whole mess points to a problem with ethics.

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HC » 2012-03-20 13:33

Your lights are on right, well mine is still coming off ,it came off twice in a one day sometime last wk and the wk before to, Lucky you.Say thanks and shut your dam stupid mouth.

**Professional** » 2012-03-20 13:22

I do not have a problem with the politicians who are trying their best to spin things. That's the nature of politics. But the engineers that are hired simply because of their qualification should not have let us down. They are the ones entrusted to safeguard quality in the execution of their profession. That is why the Judge in the MBS case sentence the accountants to jail. One should not compremize their profession for cheap politics. Integrety of your profession should always be your hallmark.

**GENTLES** » 2012-03-20 12:46

Found your comments often well reasoned. Some people may not see further than their nose. They are a threat to good reasoning. Attempting to bend a fully grown mahogany tree is like attempting to get a cow climb a ladder to eat g** from a house roof.

Clearly, if those who desired answers, like the Winston Derricks and Molwyn Josephs or even most commentators on this website, had all the information, it would have been shared for public consumption.

There seemed to be two critical issues- whether or not the plants were new and the other, whether the nation got value for money. The lack of information seemed to be the greatest difficulty.

Some contended that they were not new due to their apparent rapid deteriorating conditions, leaks etc. That being perceived were they worth the cost? Why was the Minister of Finance not heard?

**Tobi** » 2012-03-20 12:28

I see Maulwind doing alot of research pon Chinee. I guess no Chinee cheque to show pon TV. If he did his research pon Stanford instead of taking the cheque pon TV he might have spotted the Ponzi.

**Cool Ruler** » 2012-03-20 12:24

I am still waiting for the smoking gun in this never ending crusade to discredited the UPP government still implying that some how there is some form of corruption here, the kind that the ALP bandits are known for. Maybe I missed it but I do not see the name of shoul or Dr. Spencer's name amongst the list of persons inspecting any generators. So you all can keep using the disparaging term Dr BS because for all the years lester has been in politics no university on this earth will associate themselves with him to confer an honary doctorate on him and I know that galls you ALP fanatics.

**Kevin Terry** » 2012-03-20 12:19

A smart man here in ANU once told me, in reference to dealing with China.

"Due to their rapid growth, they have essentially turned farmers into businessmen. People with no degrees, or qualifications, were put into positions they were not ready for, just in the interest in keeping up with the economic boom. The guy running the aluminum extrusion plant you are considering dealing with, may have been ploughing fields by hand as early as a couple of years ago"

So this company we bought from. When did they open? How many happy generator customers did we check with for references? Warranty terms?Members of any professional, industry specific, trade organizations?

Or were they tilling the fields 24 months ago, and they are still trying to learn what they are doing, at our expense? Did we research the company we bought them from?

**Help** » 2012-03-20 12:19

If Bryan got a Car from a local dealer and it spring oil after 2months in use, would he say that is normal? If so , is guess that speak @#$% of the type of engineers we have in AUPA.

**ANTIGUAN WOMAN** » 2012-03-20 12:17

And we should be nationalistic,a nd keep our black mouths shut.

**Kevin Terry** » 2012-03-20 12:11

Is anybody really surprised by this? When you buy a product from a country that has perfected the art of 'cheapening' a product, regardless of the impact on quality, finish, or reliability, what do you expect.

When you buy a power tool for 1/3 the price of a quality Dewalt, are you surprised that the bearings are shot after 2 times using it? So you go an buy another one for the same 1/3 price of the Dewalt. And a month later, the bearings are shot again, and you need to buy another one. You have now spent the same amount of money, but 2 weeks from now you are without a grinder, and the Dewalt would still be working.

That's what we've done here. We've bought NEW generators, but of the cheapest possible quality. We might as well have bought from the "Happy Lucky Generator Co".

They built these new units, with no thoughts to corrosion protection, considering the plant would be installed in a high salinity environment. This is exactly what happens when you buy product considering initial price only. If the plant is this bad now, we need to come to the stark realization that it is only a matter of time before the plant ceases to be feasible.

**Microwave Chef** » 2012-03-20 12:09

PLM old sports Chef agrees it indeed takes a qualified engineer to aces the state of an engine , more so if the engine appears to work well. it however takes a blind bat fool or some one like you PLM to see a piece of junk for what it is a piece of junk but alas that message is missed on you now come and take your meds or we will have to put back on the straight jacked and ball gag

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Plus if Molwyn is special ed it goes to show even more that you and Shoullin UPP lap dog including PM.BS are even less qualified than special ed. Joseph because at least he can understand the difference between junk and value unlike those who voted UPP.

**Kevin Terry** » 2012-03-20 12:00

All along, I have thought the generators were used. When I first saw the photos in Caribarena, there was little doubt that they looked 20 years old.

If university educated engineers signed off on them as new, the scary prospect is that they might actually have been new. We were hung up on the fact that they were so badly deteriorated, that they had to be used. Maybe they were just built so poorly, and to such bad standards, that they really have deteriorated that much in such a short period of time.

If that really is the case, we would have been better off with 20 year old machines. At least something built well enough to last 20 years, with a little TLC and maintenance, might be nursed along to make it to 30 years.

If these things have fallen apart that badly in the short time we've been using them, they will never make it to 20 years.

If I had a choice between an 8 year old Maytag refrigerator, or a brand new refrigerator from the "Happy Lucky Refrigerator Co. of Xianing", I'd pick the used Maytag. It has more chance of making it to 12 years than the Chinee Man's making it to 4 years.

**fnpsr** » 2012-03-20 11:53

The APUA engineers, if they are really graduated engineers, should be fired without haste. When NASA is launching a shuttle, it does not get off the launch pad until all systems are “go”. Based on the article, there were sufficient reasons for the so-called engineers to vociferously voice their concerns with the entire procedures and notify their superiors. This is incompetence at its best!

These so-called engineers misrepresented to the public because they were present at the press conference and knew that what was being said was not accurate and did not set the record straight.

Furthermore, I would withhold all payments, until the power plant is in full compliance and performing satisfactorily. This determination is to be made by a group of qualified independent engineers.

“Let’s fix the little things before we attempt to fix the big things.”

**Sue** » 2012-03-20 11:52

WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THE ENGINES BE TESTED IN CHINA? WILL THEY BE INSTALLED IN CHINA? WHO WITNESS THE TESTING OF SUCH? IF THIS SO CAN WE SEE A COP OF THE TEST REPORT? IF THE WERE NEW WHY WOULD THEY HAVE TO TEST THEM BEFORE INSTALLATION? PLEASE DON'T SEND THE FOOL A LITTLE FURTHER. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

**From the Sideline** » 2012-03-20 10:14

This story reminds me of the Nigerian Oil scam that went around the world. And Nigeria still have the name of th world highest scampiest country. I had a friend whoi really thought it was too good to be true when he received a letter that he was chooses to invest in the most lucrative venture ever. He took a flight to Nigeria as he wanted to ensure he would not the scamped. He was even brought to the Central Bank and met with the President of the Central Bank. However as soon as money was transferred from his account to this so called Nigerian Investment company. It all turned out to be a farce. And he list aver $100,000.00 dollars. To shame to let anyone else know about it he suffered silently.

**Southern Beauty** » 2012-03-20 10:07

Read between the lines, this "news article" is OBVIOUSLY missing pieces and intends to connect only the dots it chooses to. Objectivity mean getting all the true and relevant information, not just the propaganda. Cut and paste does not work on us anymore! At the end of the day NATIONALS - HOW ARE THE GENERATORS PERFORMING? I know my lights are ON! Those of us, WHO PAY OUR APUA BILLS are your lights on? Is APUA paying outside producers - HADEED's APC less money so that WE benefit?

**NATURE** » 2012-03-20 09:55

...is this antigua barbuda we living in... it is just too much it's one after the other"MAN'..... this cann't be the Antigua i know all who use to be Critical in ALP time just being quiet not saying much.So much wrong taking place, all them lies .....people afraid to stand up because they want to keep there jobs while A&B going down real fast...as a young person u look up to persons in high office to always speak the truth, but when u hear and see all these lies "MAN" it's a shame ....it makes me sick :-x

**Hmmm** » 2012-03-20 09:44

I would prefer if a private entity outside of Antigua investigate this whole debacle. I have zero confidence in Molwyn Joseph, I dont know if he is an engineer by profession or this is just cheap politics. He seems to be championing the cause and this is probably politically motivated. PM hire a group of to come and investigate. I dont hear much from Gaston and I think our the as our Prime Minister in waiting does not want to allienate the chineese.

me » 2012-03-20 09:42

People of Antigua. If you care come out. The lone Wolf group are picketing in front of the Nonxxx Ambassador Shoul's office.

**PLM** » 2012-03-20 09:25

Hakim Obunato?

The question isn’t if APUA got a lemon, but if they got a new lemon.

**PLM** » 2012-03-20 09:12

Microwave chef,

What blows? If you and “Special Ed” Joseph can read, please point out to me where the degreed and credentialed APUA engineers stated, suggested, or implied that the generators were used? The degreed and credentialed APUA engineers have consistently attested to the fact that the generators were new. My confidence is in the degreed and credentialed APUA engineers not illiterate pants no shirt ALP yard fowls.

**Hakim Obunato** » 2012-03-20 09:08

APUA Engineers only saw 1 engine ,What happened to the other 5? Any used , or refurbished engine can pass an output test. APUA clearly state they never saw or verify a new crankshaft or any other auxularies !!
APUA clearly state that the engines have been derated .. If they are new why derate? Why oil leaks? Why all the rust ?? What's the cost of all the water being wasted in overheating steam?
Wake up Antigua ,this will only make the Country poorer..

**Microwave Chef** » 2012-03-20 08:30

PLM hush your !@#$@ mouth and tek you blows like a man.
your loyalty to the UPP dictatorship is beyond reason and comprehension.
regardless if your BFF is the great dictator.
PLM for this day forward you shall be know as the Shoulin lapdog ( neutered) that is ;-)

**Microwave Chef** » 2012-03-20 08:22

Chef and his Kin Negrodamus , where just enjoying a cup of bush tea and bakes when this story came online ... lard murda , the ice cap of deceit regarding this generator story begins to melt and is now really starting to reveal the ugly truth..sorry Sir Viv but this is what we have been trying to tell you all along... these generators are no good..
Molwyn you are doing a fantastic job and are fast becoming a true leader with vision :-)

. while Gaston waits for more facts :oops:

and confirmations :-x

that these generators are indeed no good( Gaston :good things come to those who wait but not for those who wait to late")
Lonewolf's you are rapidly becoming a true patriotic movement , Standing on the front line in this ripoff and holding the last line of defense between a once again exploited people of Chefs beloved Antigua and her CORRUPT , DICTATORSHIP called , UPP and the Sunshine band of pure dunce bats.

**Sue** » 2012-03-20 08:00

XM GOT PAID OFF, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, FIST OF ALL NEW FUEL PUMPS SHOULD NOT REQUIRED REPAIRS BEFORE OPERATION, COME ON PEOPLE GET REAL. I SMELL A REDHERRING, IF THEY WERE NEW, ALL THEY WOULD NEED AFTER INSTALLATION, TRAINING, START-UP, ONCE THAT IS DONE, YOU WOULD HAVE THEM SIGN-OFF ON THE EQUIPMENT ALONG WITH 30 YEAR WARRANTY GIVE & TAKE FROM THE MANUFACTURER AND ALSO A SERVICE CONTRACT. XX FOR APUA PLEASE COME CLEAN WITH US, TELL THE TRUTH FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE, YOU HAVE LIVED AIE ALL YOUR LIFE, MANIPULATING PEOPLE, SxxAxING FROM PEOPLE WHO TRUSTED YOU WITH THEIR PROJECTS AND ALL YOU DID WAS TO RIP YOUR OWN PEOPLE OFF, WHEN YOU ARE READY TO CROKE, THEY WILL HAVE TO PUT CORN DOWN YOUR THROAT, YOU HAVE ALOT TO CONFESS.

**tenman** » 2012-03-20 07:48

Its time for all the defenders of wrong to give up and accept the fact that we were given a lemon (Both where the generators are concerned and the UPP government). The PM needs to stop looking at ** (urine) and trying to bamboozle the public that its rain. Time for BS to man up and at least apologize to the nation, for how badly he has handled this generator situation. He can list this of one of the many missteps of his UPP "government"

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**DadliMan** » 2012-03-20 07:46

It is unbelievable that APUA Engineer, Bryan Nicholas, could have been a member of the team that travelled to China and experienced all those problems, and yet was willing to stand before the cameras and purge his conscience regarding the technical issues associated with the power plant.

Based on the report, after not being present for some of the tests, and the failure of other critical tests, how could APUA Engineers verify anything about these plants?

This entire episode reads more like a novel than a real life situation with the hard-earned tax dollars of poor people. This report should spark a new wave of protests across A&B

**MAINE** » 2012-03-20 07:34

the generators are new i think.

**POWA** » 2012-03-20 07:27

Thank you Mr. Joseph!

Thank you Carib Arena for your independent reporting!

Shame on you Mr. Spencer...your time for telling the truth to the people is fast running out!

Shame on you David Shoul...what are you going to say now!

Where are you Mr. Derrick and Observer...why the silence?

Where are Acres Stowe and the other NGO leaders?

Where is the Christian Council?

It seems now that we now need more than ever a full independent inquiry or time for a "VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE!"

**W. Day** » 2012-03-20 07:26

How much more embar**ingly expensive will this generator saga get?

It seems that a cloth to cover our face in shame will soon be part of the national dress code. I guess the problem is deciding which colour the cloth should be...red or blue????

**PLM** » 2012-03-20 07:23

Where in the report did the engineers state or suggest the generators were used, refurbished, or reconditioned? Bird people too liard! After this ALP pappy show, “both engine and generator, the (APUA) team concluded that they would meet the technical requirements of the New 30 Mw Power Plant”! “Special Ed” Joseph too liard; Bird people too liard.

**John French II** » 2012-03-20 07:14

Notes From A Native Son Of the Rock. With so many engineers on the APUA team, it appears that APUA & GoAB got it so wrong. The Project Strategy, Structure, Systems and Skills in place have not and are not serving the Nation Well. As the saying goes, "You pay to Learn!" A&B is paying a very heavy price. A&B got no contruction benefit in labour and supplies. A&B gets no technology transfer in Human Capacity Development. Orientals, Build and will Be Operating The Plant for two years at A&B's additional Expense,may stay. Where are the Licensed Power Engineers? Where is the legislated Power Engineers and Safety Vessels Act? Nation Building is hard work, not for the faint of heart and the uninitiated. A&B gets from what all evidence is pointing to a thermo electrical power generating plant that is not meeting expectations, either perceived or from detailed specifications which only APUA engineers can attest to. Citizens get chastised for questioning, what are being revealed in a slow Chinese waterboarding exercise, whether the Nation is receiving Value for Money. The MP Doggedly Pursues the Myriad of Problems. Heaven Help APUA, GoAB, The People Of Antigua & Barbuda

**Out of a JOB** » 2012-03-20 06:41

...and.... Balwin has the temerity to postulate that those engines are NW???!!! What a tangled web we weave.... o to hell with that, that web done bus dung wid all dem heavy tangles..

**John French II** » 2012-03-20 06:31

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock. Following The Press Conference of Feb 7, 2012 JF wrote:Quote:

APUA Engineers stated that they had witnessed the building and testing of the Engines in China. APUA Engineers Certified That New Engines were installed in the Plant and Authorized Payment.

This act of Certification sealed the Nation's Fate. There has been no discussion of Shop Drawings, their certification and approval. The memo on the visit to China for the first time points to Quote:

the Project construction design company (NCPE). There, the team was given an overview of the company and its experience in power plant design. The presentation was quite impressive.

my emphasis. This missing piece of information is so critical to the successful project, it begs the question, where were they during the testing of the engine & generator, construction and commissioning in A&B? Did they approve the Shop Drawings? Who Did? Another critical element, many including this commenter have been under a false premise that APUA had a Project Manager. It is a lower capacity Project Coordinator. A Huge Difference in EPC. Have Mercy Pon Us!

**John French II** » 2012-03-20 05:55

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock.
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For he will bring our darkest secrets to light and will reveal our private motives. Then The Most Merciful will give to each one whatever praise is due.

The two memos crafted and written by APUA Engineers and Staff were completed 29 December 2009 & 26 January 2012. Were these documents given to the APUA Board Chair, The Non-Resident Ambassador or the Good Hon Dr. PM prior to the Press Conference? Can a case be made for "Plausible Denial"? Seen and Understand That! Here was JF's comment prior to the Press Conference. Quote:

Prudence suggests that the reporters, respectfully listen to the GOAB & The Chinese and only address questions to the APUA Engineers. Truth & Justice the Antiguan & Barbudan Way devoid of "Ethical Badmindedness."

Were the Good Engineers and Staff Intimidated or Unprofessional? Having seen, heared & listened to the Press Conference the answer maybe found in the leaking of the documents. Without whistle blower protection, Somebody's going to get burnt from the wastage of steam in the SteamLine, Somebody's going to the Breadline. Quote:

Only The Dead Know The End Of War

**carvaa** » 2012-03-20 03:59

How could these APUA engineers and management team sat in a press conference with all these inscrutables, got mad by the few questions asked by our reporters knowing the large sum of money we the people have to pay back these same Chinese and sides with them all the way, making them look good just because you scared to rub them the wrong way? when time to pay back we better have their money ready old or new generator no smiles. So Mr head engineer at APUA was our $47mil well spent or did we get conned by the Chinese?

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