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Govt Postpones Allowance Tax

Ongoing consultationsAntigua St John's - Finance Minister Harold Lovell has announced that the government has decided not to move forward with the initially proposed implementation date of March 1, 2012 for allowance taxation, since ongoing consultations have made the date “no longer practical”.

He told a gathering of private citizens during a ABWU-organised consultation on Tuesday night that the new date could be April 2, if all goes well with the negotiation process.

Attending the forum were Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer, Revenue Reform Manager Everett Christian, Economist Gail E Gordon, Ralph Warner – acting commissioner of Inland Revenue Department (IRD) and ABWU General Secretary Senator David Massiah.

Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer said in a brief statement on the matter that the move will give the government the opportunity to address the question of the tax net and the ability to cast it wide enough to include all taxable areas. It will also ensure that the necessary mechanisms are in place for collection.


He said the government had already given leeway on allowance taxing when it “took the rap” in 2005 by not imposing that aspect of the income-tax law, and it is time for the ship of state to receive that tax in order to stay afloat.

“It is not something that we are just rushing into," the prime minister said. "If we do not seek to deal with the situation and generate some much needed revenue to meet our obligations to local creditors… and generate some more income to keep social income alive, it is my view that we are going to create a more disastrous situation for the economy of Antigua & Barbuda. You have to look at the lesser of the two evils to be able to address the situation."

He appealed for understanding from the public to avoid a “more difficult” situation that could result in the “collapse of the government”.

Minister Lovell pointed out specifically that there have been new amendments to the document that have not yet been made public. He said the process of discussion has been ongoing for some time, but the government was somewhat limited in going forward in that while it was holding these discussions with groups, it felt that it would be ill advised to make any pronouncement while the talks were ongoing.Ongoing consultations

"There are still a few issues that we are to get back with the stakeholders on," he said. "But I believe we have reached a point of agreement on the vast majority of issues."

The minister reiterated that it is not a new tax being proposed, and that the government was not going after the average man in the street, but looking to plug the loophole between salaries and allowances earned by upper-management personnel.

Anyone earning under $3,000 monthly will not be affected. In fact, Lovell pointed out that 64 percent of public servants and over 70 percent of private sector employees would go untouched based on statistics available to the ministry. Pensioners who get more than $3,000 will be affected.

"No government enjoys levying a tax," Lovell said. "It is the surest way to be unpopular, and it is one of those things that people just do not like. There is no joy in implementing the provisions of the 2005 personal income-tax act. But it must be done in the interest of the country."


The finance minister maintained that the move is necessary since the 2009 recession.

"We have come to the point where we find it necessary to move in that direction," he said. "It is part of the fiscal consolidation programme… We don't have a lot of options."

He maintains that Antigua is still the lowest taxed country in the OECS with the highest standard of living, even with the new implementation. He is hoping to achieve a "fair" system that will see everyone paying in accordance with what they earn.

Allowances to be taxed include housing, travel, and meal allowance. The employee share purchase plan will not be taxed, nor will benefits available to staff members across the board.

Attendees questioned the government’s plans for collection, since it is already having trouble collecting outstanding revenue, and the fact that there was no fixed tax percentage on travel allowances.

Lovell explained that for the government to improve its collection efforts, it must first close the loopholes within its control.


People also complained that in 2005, when the tax was drafted, there was money to go around, and the public might not have had much of an issue with it then. But now, in 2012, when there is no money, the government has moved to implement the tax.

“How much of our current taxes on the books, are being collected?" one attendee asked. "Why enforce more at a time when it would cost you your office?” He also admitted to not paying property tax for the past three years, but has not been confronted for it by the Inland Revenue department, which is looking to collect more.

The general consensus from the floor was not in contention with the need to pay their fair share of taxes to ensure the country functions, but rather that the system of collection seemed to be missing a certain class of people. Some proposed that the implementation be postponed for the rest of the year to give people more time to prepare for it.


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RE: Govt Postpones Allowance Tax

#23 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-02-23 16:13

Who are the stakeholders Mr Lovell? Is it the union Reps and the lost looking people you are sitting around the table with? Because last i can remember it is our money(the public) that will be affected and our feelings/opinio ns does not seem to matter one iota,so maybe as one comment said,you should just take the taxes from those you had meetings with,because i for sure,do not have another red cent to give to you and Baldwin Spencer,APUA is already gouging out my eyes every month,frankly i think this act is an absolutely cruel one,you guys seem to have hearts like Hitler.I hope Antiguans will finally show you who is boss this time.
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Statute of Limitations

#22 JP Farnsworth » 2012-02-23 14:35

Isn't there a limit on how long a law is good for if you don't enforce it? So you change the tax code and did not enforce it? It's been 7 years I think it not longer is valid and should be dismissed.
Besides if you tax me I won't have money to shop, if I have no money to shop the merchant has no customers, If the merchant closes up then he fires everyone. Then no one will have any money to pay tax. Ah problem solved.
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RE: Govt Postpones Allowance Tax

#21 Healthy Snacks » 2012-02-22 21:00

Quote:
And Jesus answering said unto them, RENDER TO CAESAR THE THINGS THAT ARE CAESAR'S, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.
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And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be TAXED.
think . . .
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Advantage never done!

#20 Dig It » 2012-02-22 20:29

Lovell, you and your cronies didn't get it "right" in 2005, so how do you expect to get it 2012? The timing is not "off" but "disasterous" as well! You don't have to be an economist to know that NO monies in circulation to spend means an economy heading over a cliff! And, the tax system doesn't close any loopholes when many don't pay their fare share and the right system is not in place to enforce and monitor it! Lovell, I am of the view that no amount of taxes can fulfilled you or the IMF mandate! What a way to "cruxify" pensioners, Mr MP?
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Sabruski

#19 Mr Sabruski » 2012-02-22 19:47

I agree with the Wadadli blogger. I also will not pay these useless set of incompetent politicians another hard earned cent.Catch me if you can.Are any of these people who work in the IRD qualified to do the job? If they are , then why would you want to work for the government of Antigua? You can't make it in the real world and so need a protected job.The minister of finance is not qualified and is only the bearer of his 'experts' in the IRD.
This gov't is not qualified to run a country much less a business. Name one of them that has run a successful business. The only one possibly is Cort, however he was playing both sides of the fence, so couldn't lose. Where are all the promised accounting and transparency of where the money will/has been spent.
They cannot get my vote ever again.
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Who are they taxing

#18 Lester Baldwin » 2012-02-22 16:20

Mr Lovell said ... "There are still a few issues that we are to get back with the stakeholders on" ... Who are the stakeholders Mr Lovell? ... I would like to think that we the people who are to be taxed are the "stakeholders?" in this instance ... Why can't you make your "new amendments to the document" available to the public who are the real "stakeholders?" ... Well since you have to "get back to the stakeholders" and I was never apart of any of your "stakeholders" meetings ... then tax those "stakeholders" you are "getting Back to" and leave my allowances alone.
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Nat a gaddam ting

#17 008 » 2012-02-22 15:28

YES Balwin and Lovell. Lik dem wid mo taxis. Antiguans will just Chat and Chat n Chat..and do NOTHING bout it..haha... Docile set a PPL.
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I refuse to pay untill ...

#16 The Wadadli Blogger » 2012-02-22 14:14

Right now I have to find all kinds of creative ways to keep all my staff working for me. I refuse to pay another cent untill the ministry of finance start showing us exactly where our tax monies are being spent. I can't honestly say that I can see where or how our tax money is being spent. The roads are terrible, the country is filthy in certain areas, we have all kinds of unfinished projects just sitting there, we are in the middle of an IMF program (which I have not heard anything about in a long while) ... and now they are coming to us to tax our allowances ... I might as well just apply to Baldwin Spencer and become his personal chef ... we are all just working to pay them now anyways.
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Kill the middle class tax

#15 Lester Baldwin » 2012-02-22 13:57

Since this government came to power all they do is punish people for making money. They don't do anything for the middle class or upper class. All they do for us is tax us. Then they give the less fortunate little welfare slips instead of creating a better situation for them.
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RE: Govt Postpones Allowance Tax

#14 Speak Easy » 2012-02-22 13:50

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"sharpen your cutlass back and belly" and chop up anyone who attempts to collect the 2% commercial tax.
:D :D :D

Mercy! Baldwin a subben else. Seems he can dish it but he can't tek it! What a stalwart of a leader we have in dis kuntree. The epitome of servant-leaders hip, charm, charisma, empathy, humility, care, concern, selfless, compassionate, lover of people not lover of corruption. :D

Gots to go now to SHARPEN ME CUTLISS BACK & BELLY!!! :D
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RE: Govt Postpones Allowance Tax

#13 joanne » 2012-02-22 12:54

what a time to impose new taxes....i tightend my belt in 2005..I was later asked to tighten it again when they extended the bands, again when the introduced the abst......i want the minister to know that i can't breathe and i am looking to vomit, hopefully on election day.
Take control Harold na mek the banker run the goverment out of power..trust me ...he done have he money. I done talk to you!!!
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Baldwin& Lovell(FED UP)

#12 ANTIGUAN WOMAN » 2012-02-22 12:37

Tax,nail,screw whatever you implement will not stop your ship from sinking,what nerves to tell us that at a time like this when we can hardly make ends meet,when the state of our economy is in the worse state you can imagine,when we have not been given any account of all you have already collected,you have now come back and ask us for more.Spencer& Lovell how heartless can you get.I hope Antiguans this time will demonstrate some love for self& country and fight this one with all they have.We cannot afford to let this go,this will spell the end of our financial existence,who it will not affect directly will be indirectly affected when the economy takes another nose dive,this must be stopped, fill the loop hole you created by finding all our moneys you all wasted and did whatever else with for 8 long yrs,or get to hell out of office.IF YOU CANT RUN THE DAM COUNTRY JUST GIVE IT UP,E NA BELONG TO YOU.
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RE: Govt Postpones Allowance Tax

#11 DadliMan » 2012-02-22 11:41

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He appealed for understanding from the public to avoid a “more difficult” situation that could result in the “collapse of the government”.
This coming from Dr BS, who urged residents of A&B to "sharpen your cutlass back and belly" and chop up anyone who attempts to collect the 2% commercial tax. That was then. Funny how our words can haunt us.

As Leader of the Opposition, Dr BS complained that the ALP was taxing people out of existence. Since attaining power in 2004, the same Dr BS has done nothing but introduce new taxes every day to obliterate the poor and middle cl** in A&B. Raising taxes is their only solution to every problem facing A&B.

Maybe a collapse of the government is exactly what we need to deliver us from this disastrous experiment - the UPP.
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Another Way

#10 Observer Overseas » 2012-02-22 11:01

The Government should look at the UPP 2009 manifesto to see that it does indeed have options in dealing with its fiscal challenges. On page 1 of the manifesto the UPP pledged:

In the second term, the UPP will propel a quantum
leap to economic democracy by divesting to the broad
m** of Antiguans & Barbudans, those activities of the
state that are best operated as private sector entities.


Among the entities listed for divestment are:

1. The Airport Authority
2. The Port Authority
3. State Insurance Corporation
4. APUA Electricity and Telecomms
5. WIOC

While we would all agree that divestment on such a large scale will take time, aside from a few vague words nothing ..absolutely nothing has changed.

The reality is, the current economic model of "state control" of key economic activities does not work and is clearly unsustainable. I would also add that the current approach of increased taxation to overcome the fiscal challenges -mainly on account of this economic model - is also unsustainable.
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look out.

#9 lethal. » 2012-02-22 09:44

dead people you next, when all else fails. don't think you can just lay comfortable for free. sooner rather than later, watch out for harold and the tax man, the washed up banker. me nar talk bout no thumb tax cause the dead no hab no feelin, but them pocket do, and that a wey it hurt. barnes and straffie sew up the dead people pocket before you bury tem the tax man cometh. :P
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Taxes!

#8 Fergie » 2012-02-22 09:27

Dear Lovell,

Why not co-sponsor the Bill for foreign citizenship with MP Gaston Browne?

This should ease the burden without hitting the local economy. Every time you take money from people, less is left to go into the business sector.

This further makes the economy worse which makes Antigua harder to attract FDI or even encourage locals to expand their businesses.

Makes sense?
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of interest

#7 tenman » 2012-02-22 09:07

The article quotes an attendee as openly admitting that for the past 3 years, he/ had not paid property tax. If the government cannot police something as simple as property tax, where persons cannot hide the land or the house, how do they realistically think they can enforce income tax? The computer system itself at inland revenue is a mess and serious work needs to be done at fixing it and managing the workers there. I have seen situations where the department claims persons are in arrears, when the person actually has receipts to prove them wrong.
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Implementation date

#6 Colin » 2012-02-22 08:45

One thing at least we can count on: this latest implementation date will definitely not be April 1.
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pic

#5 anu268 » 2012-02-22 08:36

The photograph speaks for itself. One word sums it up for me. Broken!
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Will the PM and his Ministers pay?

#4 Judge Dredd » 2012-02-22 08:18

I ask again. In any one week at least half the Ministers are off island, usually including our travelling PM. So I ask the questions, will the PM and Ministers be taxed on their airline tickets and huge per diems (travel); their house and utility allowances; their local travel?
Until we get these answers, there should be no further discussion.
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RE: Govt Postpones Allowance Tax

#3 chis » 2012-02-22 06:28

good morning mr minister,we cannot tax people out of everything we are running business out of town,we need to find a different way of dealing with this.
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RE: Govt Postpones Allowance Tax

#2 Onlooker » 2012-02-22 06:21

They always mentioning that more income is needed inorder to prevent the gov't from collapsing and the only idea they can come up with is taxing struggling citizens, as if there is no other form of taxation. Why they do not bring back the foreign exchange levy that they took off in 2004? Is it because it would affect they friends with big businesses? The levy I'm quit sure can raise as much as the income tax. They just love the idea of killing the poor man. They are going to make the country collapse by killing every bit of spending power us citizens have.
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What an idiot

#1 STEVE » 2012-02-22 03:20

"The minister reiterated that it is not a new tax being proposed, and that the government was not going after the average man in the street, but looking to plug the loophole between salaries and allowances earned by upper-managemen t personnel". SO THE WORKER WHO GETS $3001.00 IS CONSIDERED "UPPER-MANAGEME NT PERSONNEL? Just want to show the foolishness of their words.
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