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Gaston Proposes Credit Cards for Government Ministers

MP Gaston BrowneAntigua St John's - Deputy leader of the Antigua Labour Party Gaston Brown has said that his party will be advocating for a credit card system to be put in place for government ministers and other officials who travel often as part of an accountability system that would not only provide a better microscope for overseas spending but also remove some of the red tape and restrictions of the per diem system currently in place.

Brown shared this as he provided an insight into the recently concluded meeting of the leaders of the opposition in the sub-region held in St. Lucia that he and fellow opposition MP Molwyn Joseph were allowed to attend.

The historic meeting was called by Chairman of the OECS Dr. Kenny Anthony.



On the Big Issues radio program on Sunday, Brown provided an update on the purpose of the meeting and attempted to provide a synopsis of its outcome.

He noted that, while the meeting was the first of its kind to be held in the region at that level, it was also historic in its nature of focusing specifically on the opposition and more so notable in that the trip for himself and MP Joseph was actually funded by the government of Antigua and Barbuda.

“For us it was a welcomed initiative. We believe that it augers well for continuity of government within the region and obviously it also helps to facilitate some stability among opposition members and members of the government party. We believe too that it also helps opposition parties to be brought into the information loop so that they can speak from a position of fact rather than from a position of ignorance…”

Regarding the plane ticket and the EC 750 per diem funds provided for himself and MP. Joseph, Brown said the money was well spent.

“Insofar as accounting of the funds received, the money was just sufficient to cover our hotel bill of US$225 and our meals.

We believe strongly that per diems should be well managed and accounted for…”
Brown labeled the opposition leaders’ meeting as “very robust” and facilitative of opinions and participation from all in attendance.

It featured a briefing of the OECS Economic Union, its organs and a discussion of the rights and benefits of OECS citizens, which include the free movement of capital across the islands without quantitative restrictions and duty charges.

The opposition deputy leader commented on the fact that other OECS countries have moved ahead with the free movement of OECS nationals within their countries, ahead of Antigua and Barbuda which has long been plagued with issues of legislation and implementation – an issue that the other nations seem to have surpassed.

Another topic of notable significance for discussion at last week’s meeting was the OECS Parliament that will have its historic inaugural sitting in Antigua on June 15.

Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer has called this move a significant one for both the nation and the region
 to be proud.


But out of the meeting came many concerns about the constitutionality of the proposed assembly and its potential to “undermine the national sovereignty of national parliaments,” explained Gaston Brown.


He said the matter was previously referred to for legal opinion, with at least two being understood to have been received. But the nature of these opinions were not shared with the gathering last week.

The move is also posed for questioning before the Appeals Court as a matter of constitutional interpretation and guidance.
 A number of national concerns were also placed before Prime Minister Kenny Anthony.



"It is who actually volunteered and asked the various delegations if they had any issues at the national level that they would like raised at the next meeting of the heads…”
 MP Molwyn Joseph is reported to have dealt with the issue of the harmonization of the political infrastructure in Antigua and Barbuda and throughout the region in order to avoid some of the “sinister amendments” or moves to adjust the electoral legislation to give the incumbent government an unfair advantage to compete in the election process, according to Brown.

He added that Dr. Anthony had “graciously agreed” to accommodate these requests and have them raised as the next government heads meeting.

The overall outcome of the meeting is being viewed as successful by Brown who believes that Antigua would have gotten value for money with its participants leaving with a better understanding of the treaties and issues of the Assembly that were previously unclear.

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A little late but!!!

#25 Avid Reader » 2012-05-09 11:42

Years ago ministers used to get $5000 US when they traveled without any accountability for that money. It is good to see that something is being suggested for this, maybe more accountability will be realized by the people of Antigua and Barbuda for their money. The constant traveling of government employees is because of the per diem, not because they are really doing anything for the country. If they were we would be so far ahead of everyone else in the region.
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Why not

#24 It Is Me » 2012-05-08 22:44

Why not ... give them a unlimited black card ... then we could get them a private jet to travel on after ... and we can finish it off by buying them a bullet proof Pope mobile for travel abroad so they can travel safely.

Don't worry we can tax the people and sell sand and land to pay for it all. Or we can use another one of Gaston's briliant ideas and sell passports!!!
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For what a World tour?

#23 Lester Baldwin » 2012-05-08 22:15

Ministers should not be travelling so often anyways. They should not be the ones going to most of these meetings. The permanent secretaries or other permanent officials should go. What good does it make to send a minister of tourism to a tourism summit if he is gonna be either voted out or moved from tourism within a few months or years anyways. It is a waste of money and time. And now Gaston wants to give them credit cards so they can go to their friends and families business abroad and milk the cards!!! Someone can even set up a fake business with a hotel name or restaurant/cate ring name just to milk us. Then they will rent cars from friends and book through their family travel agents etc... that is a disaster waiting to happen.
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@tenman

#22 YOUTH ELIJAH » 2012-05-08 11:10

We both know that there are many businesses, even here at home that do accept credit cards primarily for the cost attached to doing such transactions and also the nature or size of their business (especially food places and even government agencies such as the airport fees etc).

Hear me well, all I am saying is that while the ideas of cards are thoughtful, its unnecessary, most frequent government official who travel have their own personal cards. If there is obviously a system for per diem already in place, just enforce it for accountability as I noted with Fred. creating traveling cards now for ministers and whom ever Hon. G Brown is proposing will only create the need for a second / added administrative accounting to effectively acquire, maintain and monitor these cards.. which would be in addition to the already existing system that is currently used for everyone...

I am not sure what the restrictions on Per Diem or Red Tape that Hon. Mr Brown is hoping to alleviate, but all I am saying for the sake of good management & accountability its better to establish a standard and have a system that works for all rather than just some... :-*
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@Fred

#21 YOUTH ELIJAH » 2012-05-08 10:13

I am well aware of the allegations surrounding this practice, hence why I noted in my post that there is a need to have some enforced standard, guidelines or policy at least for traveling representatives of the government (hoping that one exists... :-* )

A policy that speaks to accounting for travel expenses via a receipt along with and / or travel expense report... so that the government can see what the per diem funds were spent on... and if the representative cannot adequately account for the funds all they do is simply pay back for it... But this is something that has to be communicated to the person prior to travel..

Another way to help mitigate your concerns on possible per diem wastage on travel etc, is that the government could be proactive which it sometimes is and simply be the one to take care of the travel arrangements ahead of time such as hotel, ticket etc and not have to worry about over funding per diem... and all that would really be necessary is cash in hand to cover cost of food, toiletries, telephone and possible incidentals etc
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RE: Gaston Proposes Credit Cards for Government Ministers

#20 Fred » 2012-05-08 08:35

Youth Elijah, You may not be aware that Ministers have received up to US$700 a day per diem. They have stayed in hotels for EC$200 a night and pocket the rest of the money. A credit card scheme will re-imburse them only for what they spend with certain pre approved limits for amounts on food and lodging.
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Really..?

#19 The Punisher » 2012-05-08 07:47

To get a credit card you first need..... credit(ability) ..!!
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YOUTH ELIJAH

#18 tenman » 2012-05-07 23:04

YOUTH ELIJAH how would it require more administration than the current system? Are you aware that this method is currently being used via the PDV Caribe’s People Benefit program? I can't see it more difficult to inform a bank to upload funds on a debit card vs going through the process of writing a cheque. The latter process could result in hicups caused by the traveller having a bounced cheque. It also allows for emergency fund transfers if the traveler runs into some unexpected situation when overseas.

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YOUTH ELIJAH

#17 tenman » 2012-05-07 22:57

YOUTH ELIJAH, where can you go these days where a CC is not accepted? I really can't see any valid transactions that these travelers need to do where a CC won't help. At the end of the day if cash is needed, as you stated, there is always the taking cash from card via an ATM option. This option cannot be the norm and will require more checks.

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RE: Gaston Proposes Credit Cards for Government Ministers

#16 Fred » 2012-05-07 21:09

I would like to commend Gaston for his transparent disclosure of the monies received and how it was spent. Moreso, I am happy with his update on the meeting given to the public. This should be standard operations for Ministers of Government who take thousand of dollars in per diems without accounting to the people about their trip. I also like the credit card idea. I see that Gaston is determined to set new GOvernance standards for the country and I am very encouraged by the honesty and competence of this young man.
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CREDIT CARDS FOR MINISTERS THOUGHTFUL YET UNNECESSARY

#15 YOUTH ELIJAH » 2012-05-07 21:04

While having a government issued credit card is a thoughtful prospect and may help get away from the process of standing in the long lines at Treasury waiting on signature A or B... Creating and managing all these different card accounts etc brings added & unnecessary administrative cost that we all know government could do without

What I find more necessary than implementing credit cards is a lacking / unenforced policy that speaks to all funds expended needing to be accounted for by a relevant receipt, and if unaccounted for the funds must be paid back to the treasury by the representative. .. this way some accounting check can be had on whether the level of funds granted were lavished or necessary for evaluating the total funds necessary for another traveling representative going the same route..
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CREDIT CARDS FOR MINISTERS THOUGHTFUL YET UNNECESSARY

#14 YOUTH ELIJAH » 2012-05-07 21:04

Per Diem is normally granted by cheque from Treasury (for paper trail accounting) to a traveling representative of the government, to cover costs such as incidentals (taxi, food, toiletries, fees etc)

The representative can deposit the cheque funds and decide on the best way to prepare the funds acquired for their travel, whether loading part of the funds on their personal debit or credit cards for the sake of not carrying large sums of cash around if it may be a long trip or taking some cash in hand (converting to foreign currency etc), because just as the tourists coming to Antigua & Barbuda learns, not all places abroad accept credit card payments,
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NOT IN FAVOR OF THE OPPOSITION ASSEMBLY...

#13 YOUTH ELIJAH » 2012-05-07 20:27

I find that this recent "opposition party" assembly will only further add to the political ignorance plaguing the Caribbean, in the belief of sustaining opposition parties and the partisan politics they spew to remain relevant.

An end needs to be brought to this ongoing political culture & practice of elected "supposedly" representatives of the people, who put the interest of their respective political parties, ahead of the role & responsibility they have in forming a representative and good governing government for the people.

They instead turn and "CHOOSES" to be in opposition as a opposition party representative in Parliament, opposing a government they are suppose to form just because a member of their party wasn't appointed as PM.

UPP is NOT the Government, and no political party can and will ever be government. So instead of continuing to collect tax payer dollars and not adding any value to the lives of the citizens of this fair country, Hon. Mr. Brown and Mr Joseph and their fellow comrades needs to check themselves and get to doing what they were elected to do.. that is serve the people.
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@ Reader

#12 Morris » 2012-05-07 20:01

What are you talking about? There is absolutely nothing in those paragraphs that talk about a credit card program; they're talking about the importance of the recent meeting.
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Good Story Alex

#11 Reader » 2012-05-07 17:26

One of the few refreshing stories on Caribarean. @ Morris - Read the article again! Paragraphs 7 - 9. Keep up the good work Alex. The story presented perfect balance in the information given.
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agree with PLM

#10 tenman » 2012-05-07 16:37

This is a good idea and should be implemented soonest. Currently similar technology is used for the PDV Caribe’s People Benefit program via a debit card. As Browne says it makes tracking easier. The existing cash in hand system can be abused by persons simply creating fake receipts. Recall years ago hearing of employees digging through the trash looking for receipts they can use to claim expenditure

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Cool Rest.

#9 THE GODFATHER » 2012-05-07 16:08

Pompey, what's up, the rain is not affecting me right now, I am inside relaxing: me ah nyam dookahnar an sarlfish, me nar baddah wid dem an dem paliticks teedey.

Enjoy your day. I am going to take a cool rest right now.
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THE GODFATHER'S MADNESS

#8 RAWLSTON POMPEY » 2012-05-07 15:21

Only the GODFATHER.
Coincidental that he should use the word "...MADNESS." The next commentary to Caribarena on Wednesday is titled "...METHOD TO THE MADNESS-" a perspective on the seemingly chaotic traffic situation and apparent methodological madness in enforcement.
Happy rainy Labour Day to all visitors to Caribarena.
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USE THE PROTOCOL OFFICER MORE

#7 THE GODFATHER » 2012-05-07 11:37

How to counter the per diem practice, and manage government account, refelect on how it is managed now. Isnt there a government agency resposnible for the booking of hotels, making all the protocol arrangemnets from accomodation to transportation. As far as I am aware MPs on government business are provided transport by the host country, hotel booking and the necessary arrangements made through the protocol office.

If these MPs are on a joy ride and want to buy gifts and enjoy the meat trade, thats on their pocket, not the nation expenditure, so there is need to correct the whole per diem process.
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STOP THE MADNESS

#6 THE GODFATHER » 2012-05-07 11:22

Gaston is one of the better politician, I admire him, but disagree with the credit card issue. If it is up to me, it is time to do away with all per diem, cancel that rip off once and for all. This will discourage, every Tom, ** and Harry who wants to go abroad just to continue the TREASURY RIP OFF!

Listen, isn't it time that we participate in the political affairs of our country, and let the politicians know when they are bleeping thiefing. They are elected to serve, they are provided with everything when they travel, what more do they want, are we not already paying them their per diem for governing Antigua & Barbuda, it is time this ignorance ends.

All fly first class, eat the best, drink the best and frolic all over, and still want more.. DEM NYAM DE BES, JINK DE BES, xxALIC ARL OHVA. Time to stop this MADNESS.
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RE: Gaston Proposes Credit Cards for Government Ministers

#5 Cool Ruler » 2012-05-07 10:31

I listen to his statement yesterday on observer about the ALP will introduce credit cards for government ministers and officials traveling on government business. His attempt was to somehow cast aspersions at the way per diem is given for traveling on the nations business. I guess he did not like the amount of per diem he got for the trip, so he want to introduce credit cards. Really! Who will ensure that these cards are not abused for personal business both for them their concubines and hangers on? Knowing you guys taste for the big life, I guess you will ask for an American express black card with unlimited limits.
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Seems like something is being "fored" on us just like the C.S.M.E.

#4 Beef » 2012-05-07 09:29

"He said the matter was previously referred to for legal opinion, with at least two being understood to have been received. But the nature of these opinions were not shared with the gathering last week". Is something been hidden? I know that Justin Simon is on record that there will have to be "some" constitutional ammendments (http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/news/politics/98665-oecs-political-unity-the-next-step.html) What have become of this talk? Something smells fishy here.
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Not red credit, but blue credit

#3 PLM » 2012-05-07 09:07

This is a good idea whose time is long overdue. Individually billed CC’s with preset limits should constrain squandermania.
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RE: Gaston Proposes Credit Cards for Government Ministers

#2 Morris » 2012-05-07 06:44

The headline reads, "Gaston Porposes Credit Cards for Government Ministers." but there is nothing about credit cards (beyond the first paragraph) in the story. Would sure be good to have read about the details of his proposition. The story is simply an update regarding the recent meeting. Come on!
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RE: Gaston Proposes Credit Cards for Government Ministers

#1 Reality » 2012-05-07 04:59

SIB credit cards ? :eek:
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