Comments for Tian Limited by Lack of Support at http://www.caribarena.com/antigua , comment 1 to 15 out of 15 comments http://www.caribarena.com/antigua Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:08:31 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20479 He was out of his league and so was claudette peters too. However should we just throw our hands in the sky and say Bunji or Fayann or Shurwayne will win anyway or isn't it more sensible to rally behind our artists so that they can get the exposure and thus improve? I maintain that the money that was used to send Namba to Trinidad would have been better spent on Tian. - joe joe Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:40:09 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20339 Artist do need support, but he was out of his league in the uptempo competition. He is not an uptempo singer, how he won the competitions is still a myth to me, I would have hoped that his non placement in Trinidad would have brought him some humility, but it seems it didn't. He should not blame the government or Antigua people for non support, he did win money and he knew he was headed to this event, prioritizing his money would have been better. Blame everyobody else because you were out of your league. C'mon!!! - Avid Reader Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:52:45 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20275 also music is universal so if he wants Bajan arrangers, trini writers on an Antiguan style then that is ok with me. I do not subscribe to the Onyan/Oungku Bena music only mentallity. The style that Bajans use is heavily influenced by Dominica, Martinique, Antigua and Trinidad. Even Oungku and Onyan borrrow horn licks from Kassav, Zouk Machine and Tanya St Val. Therefore there is no such thing as an original Antigua or anywhere else style. - joe joe Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:51:09 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20274 you are personalizing it now. It does not matter if it is Tian or Onyan or Lard Satelite- what I am talking about is support for our artists. The songs need to be played on the air in trinidad and in order to do that the artist has to have presence in trinidad. Take for instance Tizzy- Tizzy wine was played constantly on the radio for carnival because she and el a crew have been doing the for years(they get government support too). - joe joe Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:48:22 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20268 Second thing, while I appreciate Tian has talent, I don't like his style. With his Bajan produced beats and auto tuned lyrics he is taking local soca in the over-produced and synthesized direction of many Trini artists such as Machel Montano. This is not good for Anitguan soca, because we need to maintain our unique, raw style of soca. The success of Lucian and Vincy soca in recent years demonstrates this. Raw metal and whistles over electronics any day. I wish him the best but I hope with his new album I won't confuse him with Zan or Blazer Dan. - Sven Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:32:22 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20267 The first is that the Trinidad "International" Soca Monarch competition is a sham for several reasons. Trinis with their superior attitudes will never give their crowd support points to a foreign act, and I suspect the judges would not allow a non Trini to actually when that competition. Furthermore, by the time the Vincentian, Grenadian, Bajan and Antiguan artists perform their tunes, they are any where from 5 - 6 months old. It can be difficult to recreate hype after that long. A truely "international" soca monarch should be rotated between the smaller island's summer carnivals. - Sven Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:29:36 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20265 cool ruler it is assistance and promotion for the island at the same time. Allsion Hinds is a hosehold name in Trinidad and rich Trinidadians travel to Barbados and stay in their hotels during Crop Over time. In the same way when we big up Tian then we are bigging up Antigua Carnival. It would have made more sense to forfeit Namba's per diem etc in order to assist Tian. - joe joe Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:27:50 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20264 This guy needs to get real and do the hard work, what hand out? You do not even free perform free since you won, you even paying to record in studios in Barbados instead of continuing with your local studios where you do not pay as much if any and still want local dollars? - hard Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:59:29 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20263 Nobody want to pay taxes but every body want government to assist them. - Cool Ruler Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:51:39 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20262 the artistes such as rupee started from nowhere- even allison hinds used to sing at a hotel. It is the Bajan government who gave them the backing and caused them to progress to what they are now. The bajan government used it to market bajan tourism and it paid dividends. We can use that money to market our island and it will pay dividends when people come here to participate in our carnival too - joe joe Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:34:30 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20261 joe joe, you cannot expect to put tian in any bracket with the artiste you mentioned.. artiste with yearsssssss of struggle and a name on the international market that they earned (you need to have international appeal even regional appeal to help promote the country extra props wont help if your not appealing not saying hes not just making a comment)... tians talent is sub par to say the least compared to these artist...he has to develop himself more and as tian fan said work harder to develop his product winning the local competition gave him an opportunity to have this experience be grateful and stop bitchin....by the way where is the government to get this money they were asking for >:( - hmmm Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:17:57 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20260 As someone that appreciates good Soca music I would admit that Mr. Winter has a good voice and other attributes of someone that can grow into a popular worldwide Soca artist. But with that said, you are only an entertainer and the work you do could benefit others, but generally only benefit yourself. When you are a teacher, doctor, police, trash collector or even a bus driver where, I can see the benefit of my taxes resulting in more than paying to hear or see you; I as a tax payer will feel free to donate. My suggestion is for you reinvest the prize monies awarded to you (50K US I think) sell your car and hit the pavement and basically hustle. Don’t expect me as a tax payer to foot the bill for you. There are people who work hard for a living and their pay is less than rewarding but don’t seek handouts. - Voice Of Reason Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:15:05 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20246 tian fan you obviously do not know how difficult it is to get your props in Trinidad. The Bajan government has supported Edwin Yearwood, Alison Hinds and Rupee among other artists. This in turn has helped to promote Crop Over......... - joe joe Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:04:01 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20235 C’mon Tian.. I don know if anyone had told you and your management that the music industry is not subsidize by any government. You and your management team have to get off you all butts and work harder and harder to promote your all product and stop sitting and waiting on government hand outs. Work hard and create a product that is good and attractive and you will get support from all sectors of other society, use the www to promote your product, and you also you have to make sacrifice, you may have to do some appearance that don’t offer an attractive pay out but look at the big picture it is about getting the name Tian to be a house hold name in the soca industry. - Tian fan Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:29:02 +0100 http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/antigua-entertainment/music/tian-limited-by-lack-of-support-201002188333.html#comment-20217 I saw an ad on the Trinidad stations for the Soca Monarch show and they spoke about Prime Ministers and Presidents coming to watch the show from other islands-then I saw Namba's face flashing on the screen. I guess it is more important for him to sit in VIP than for the artist who is representing the country to get the support he needs to compete and big up Antigua!! - joe joe Thu, 18 Feb 2010 04:07:39 +0100