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**son of the soil** » 2013-01-17 18:30

"As for the request for land adjacent to the sea, Baptiste said this is not an area of concern, as he understands that the company needs to be able to import containers of feed and other supplies directly onto their property".

This is of most concern we cannot allow any investor the will to have access to our country without knowing what is coming in. The Government of Antigua has the responsibility of protecting its sea and land ports. Giving this investor the right to our water because he must be bringing in commodities for his business is wrong. Everything must go through the ports either land or sea. I am amazed to have read that our minister made such statement. This is an erro.

**Dig It** » 2013-01-16 21:30

With so many factors to considering in running a 'poultry-farm-o peration' such as the environment impact **sment, water scarcity, electrical, bio-safety, and impact on local producers, I am so 'amazed' that the MP have little/nil regards to 'threats' that would impact the people.
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“The amount of land that the company is requesting is of concern for me," he said. "The company is to return to us with counter-proposals, as I am not comfortable with their request for lands."

Sad part is there will be no "win-win" situation for the people in these 'negotiations.' I wouldn't be surprize that this MOU deal with the GOAB and CPC is closed with the said lands and concessions. As I said before, our country still yet to find a "Great Negotiator." Bless A&B.

**tenman** » 2013-01-16 20:05

Hercules, it was Emanuel appearing on the Colin Sampson, May 1 2012, show who basically stated that IDI could not be depended on. As I recall, he stated it was close to impossible to get locals to come together and do anything. On the very show he wrongly projected that the then Zacky Mann project (now Ciboney) would have broke ground in 2012. I just find it all amazing that government via ABIA cannot come up with key projects which need investment and then meet with locals on selling it. Then again according to the PM, we do not lack investors but financing

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**Jumbee Picknee** » 2013-01-16 19:15

Skye, I tell my son, that "tail chasing" is fine, but only with cock in tow, fine wine for the cocktails and after party.
Serious thou, there has to be a reconditioning of Our thought processes, otherwise, it's catastrophic.

**IOBSERVE** » 2013-01-16 17:48

CpC will welcome the addition ofnew broiler and egg producers that are willing and able
to produce poultry to prescribed CPC standards. These standards will be made available
to qualified new growers.

**Hercules** » 2013-01-16 17:35

A Luta Continua! Follow The Money - (JFII) Rain Falling Blue Kitchen Leaking!
Elections Approaching!
GAB loves FDI. They titilate with The Big Score. They salivate at CIP & Beach Lands. They Enjoy the BIg Story.
Safely hidden under their Radar is $2.5 Billion Local Savings in short term instruments in the Banks.
GAB's Vision do not include Cooperatives.
The Executive Director of ABIA Who worked around the World understanding the economic developmet of SIDS and Developing Countries from Asia to Africa to Latin America & The Caribbean lost this battle of FDI, Globalization and Neo-colonialism to the ABIA Board Chair.
The MOU was Executed. Hard Knaxx will be singing triumphantly.
The Hon. Min of Agriculture, Lands and Fisheries is "Bloviating".
Peace Be On To All.

**Conscious** » 2013-01-16 17:00

1,000 acres of land is 44,000,000 sq/ft. At $5 per sq/ft that is $220,000,000. Add 25 acres of beachfront (sorry, waterfront) land and calculate who should be the majority investor in this project.

Also, why 1,100,000 sq/ft to land barges with feed? Everything else on the island comes through the Port which is just a fraction of this size.

Anybody smell the chick poop?

**skyewill** » 2013-01-16 15:48

Good day Sir, I could not pass you by with your operant conditioning theory. Straight to the root cause eh! Ah! "TAIL CHASING." A young mans sport can get you in trouble. Remember when we were at AGS how some of them were so militant and out spoken about the effects of slavery. They grew up became the government and became their predecessors.

**skyewill** » 2013-01-16 15:37

A memorandum of understanding (MoU) is a document describing a bilateral or multilateral agreement between two or more than two parties. It expresses a convergence of will between the parties, indicating an intended common line of action. It is often used in cases where parties either do not imply a legal commitment or in situations where the parties cannot create a legally enforceable agreement. It is a more formal alternative to a gentlemen's agreement. You HOWL DEM BY DE TAIL, now spank him like a baby. I just realized that this is an agreement, now turned proposal Here is why: THEY BUSTED!!!!

**skyewill** » 2013-01-16 15:34

Again, I will remind, that until we deal with the bottlenecks (high energy costs, excessive taxation due to an inefficient public system, lack of lateral thinking, a failing public education system, etc.) that stymie our development, we will continue to go nowhere- YOU DA MAN! is this so hard to understand? Is this RED or BLUE? NO! It is what needs to be done.

**skyewill** » 2013-01-16 15:16

What's up doggy, did you miss me? Not MIA ,this week is finals and I writing reports and doing research. This is my last full term in Psychology before graduation and I started Cisco systems engineering courses last term as well. But I hear ya. First and foremost I AGREE WITH GREENE. I don't like the land deal and I don’t like that they want exclusive from local farmers. I know you read my blog yesterday. SECONDLY: IT'S A PROPOSAL that I hope the government never accepts. I fell these people knows we are over the barrel and Government really needs one but too many people watching and they can't get way WID UM! The investor is playing games In order to be good negotiators you must be trained in such and have had too practice in contract and proposal writing. The investor sees what they think is weakness
THIRD I don't always agree with my friend Brother B, who by the way makes the best darn stew chicken on the island....HOW WAS THAT?...Now back to the books! PS I hope you went to www.chea.org it is good information for your organization. Use it, learn from it. I'll check in every now and then.....later Bro!

JD » 2013-01-16 14:20

Well, if this is just a proposal at this stage then all these comments should help towards this decision. I certainly hope this is nothing to do with chicken battery farming - we need to learn from mistakes on this in other countries and make sure we don't do the same. Also, why not use our other ports for shipments like every other business has to - beach lands indeed, doesn't make any sense at all, it's not a hotel. The small businesses we already have that are producing free-range chickens and eggs is best and this is where any investing, subsidies and land should go to. It means more people can have a share in this market, greater sustainability and self-sufficienc y - our homegrown chickens and eggs are of much better quality than the imported ones and I don't think people will mind paying a little bit more for this. It could become another unique selling point/product of ours that we could then export etc.

**DadliMan** » 2013-01-16 13:41

Anything having to do with the NY xxn xxxxxt needs to be checked and double-checked

**Dax Rebel** » 2013-01-16 13:31

Can anyone tell me who will be collecting the 10% Finders Fees?

Will it be 10% of the land?

Will it be the 10% at the beach front?

Is anyone negotiating on behalf of the Government (ABIA) involved in 'finding' the said investor?

Just trying to get some answers, and by the way, Brother B also need to ask these hard questions before we agree to give away our lands to those notorious land grabbing swindlers.

**fnpsr** » 2013-01-16 13:23

Tenman, I agree with your comments. Every effort should be made to produce a local chicken farm before considering outsiders. It is time for us to stop looking for “outside money.” As Skyewill and I have opined in the past, Antigua has all the money to take care of itself. Naturally, all of the tenets of frugality have to be in place. I have also opined, Antiguans would rather watch their money in the bank and hope “outsiders” will come in and take risks. This will have to change.

With $70 million in imports leaving the island annually, if a group of individuals come together and do the due diligence, hire the appropriate technical staff, get the same support from the government, this could give birth to a major local company. And moreover, the $70 million dollars would be circulated in the Antiguan economy.

No venture, especially one of this magnitude, is easy, but it can be done. Local investors have to realize that they may not turn a profit for at least the first five years, but since this is a long-term project, profits will eventually come.

“Let’s fix the little things with RWE before we attempt to fix the big things.”

**E..P. Chet Greene** » 2013-01-16 13:07

My dear friend Dr. Emanuel, you have repeatedly referred to my presentation in parliament as an embellishment of the facts. Now that the M.O.U has been made public, I invite you and anyone else who heard my "characterizati on" of the contents of the M.O.U to support your earlier assertions of embellishment.
There is absolutely no benefit or value in misrepresenting the terms and conditions of the M.O.U. I also wish to reiterate my abiding commitment to the development of our county and people but with equal passion will reject all and anything that is inimical, unfair, inequitable and unjust to the people of this country and national interest.

**E.P. Chet Greene** » 2013-01-16 12:54

Is it fair and or reasonable to conclude that a M.O.U is a written expression of verbal discussions and a reflection of points agreed to between two o more parties?
If you agree with the above simplified definition, is it fair to conclude that your assertions that the M.O.U currently the focus of public discussion and concern is a representation of the discussions you held with the investor and a documentation of the points you agreed to? Your confirmation this morning on Observer Radio that the M.O.U has been signed further confirms your (government's) acceptance of the various clauses as an accurate reproduction of the points of discussion.
Shame on you and it is unpardonable that you would have discussed and agreed to the annihilation of local businesses, a monopoly of the loal poultry industry, a land grab including beachfront lands and the repatriation of ALL profits after such a mass giveaway.

**Jumbee Picknee** » 2013-01-16 12:07

Our leaders/politic ians exhibit the traits of stray/unleashed dogs. The most telling trait of this kind, is "TAIL CHASING."
The primary cause of excessive tail chasing often involve aspects of learned behavior or medical problems or both.
Tail chasing and other stereotypic behaviors may be a result of operant conditioning, a process by which a behavior is affected by its consequences and an association is made between a stimulus and a response.
Our future leaders MUST learn be aware of these types of institutionaliz ed learned behavior, smash the 'box' just don't think outside of it, if We will be the true Masters of our future and destiny.

**Speak Now** » 2013-01-16 11:59

Where you at skyewill? You always seem to be defending Brother B. What u have to say about this yo?

**forever 21** » 2013-01-16 10:43

Awww! What an adorable photo of Hilson. And those 2 little chicks on his shoulder make him look cute ;-)

**Slave** » 2013-01-16 10:41

Slavery coming back ....... Local business owners in the industry will be forced to purchase their inputs from this company who sees them as competitors, all they will do is make it unprofitable for the small farms to operate and they will be forced to work for CPC for little or nothing

**Analyst** » 2013-01-16 10:40

Here's a different take on things. I'm tired of hearing our local folks complain about being forced out of the market when things like this come up. I certainly believe that this project seems like a bit of a land grab, but who do our local people not form themselves into entities that can make proposals to do large things?

We all seem to be content to run our little mom-and-pop micro businesses that do very little to employ or empower anyone but the sole proprietor. Our economy cannot grow on the backs of those micro businesses. I don't think that micro businesses should be forced out of the market, but I also do not believe that the market ought to remain artificially small simply to accommodate them. Find ways to grow from the micro- to the small- to the large business and stop asking from protectionism at all levels. Merge, consolidate etc.

My two cents.

**Talking Sense** » 2013-01-16 10:07

This morning Cleveroy on Observer asked Emmanuel about the Caribbean Poultry Standards Unit and he waffle and talk about the project is for domestic production and later when they start to export then they will deal with that Unit.

But I thought that we have to stop production to put Standards in place. How we going produce for the Caribbean before we know the Caribbean Standards? Emmanuel is strictly doing a paper project. He is not dealing with technocrats. This was evident this morning as he did not even know about the Caribbean Poultry regulatory framework.

Also remember the Caribbean is our target market. So why are his answers not making a "whole" lot of sense and coherence!! Why do they put me further into a "hole"??

**tenman** » 2013-01-16 09:47

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23. CPC requests, for the purpose, of bio-security issues only, that other than for personal consumption, all poultry producers on the island will cease production after their current cycle concludes once construction of the hatchery begins..

Time to tell these guys to feck off. Even egg producers will have to close their doors. Yes they claim the producers will be compensated for any profits lost. The plan calls for forcibly buying them out, offering them the proverbial deal they cannot refuse. A government which claimed its all about empowering persons is entertaining a MOU which calls for their disenfranchisement.
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**tenman** » 2013-01-16 08:32

Browne during the show also pointed out that he had talked to a local investor who pointed out that the current costs of electricity and feed import costs, make it cheaper to import chicken. The investor in the past had looked at the option of doing a similar project. Again, I will remind, that until we deal with the bottlenecks (high energy costs, excessive taxation due to an inefficient public system, lack of lateral thinking, a failing public education system, etc.) that stymie our development, we will continue to go nowhere

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**tenman** » 2013-01-16 08:12

There is a saying:
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Don't count your chickens before they are hatched

Since they have not gotten past the proposal stage why did the government last year suggest the project would have already started? If you were planning your personal budget for this year, would it be based on the idea of getting moneys from a job you have not even been given yet? The minds have not even met yet as far as costs but we are already depending on this project for revenues in 2013. I find such actions ridiculous and shows desperation. No wonder the "investor" is making such demands

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**jasper** » 2013-01-16 07:52

A poultry farm -is "intensive" breeding etc - you could not possibly need more that 12-15 acres! As for needing land by the sea to facilitate the feed containers arriving - are they going to drag them up the beach - or build their own Port?? Are we so stupid that we cannot see through this land grab?
Why not float a seperate National private company with serious local investors and import "expertise " -only if necessary.

**Robinhood** » 2013-01-16 07:33

The minister should keep this in mind when considering this chicken farm agreement " that she is considering asking a US court to levy against the Eastern Caribbean Central Bank (ECCB) to collect monies for the more than 100-acre property that was compulsorily acquired by the government in July 2007.

Read more: http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/news/latest/102850-querard-quiet-on-possible-court-move.html#ixzz2I8Xus06s". Please guys please protect what you have. Therefore you will not be paying for your own land later. This project is a land grab.

**not again** » 2013-01-16 05:22

Everytime you speak I'm wondering what side you on but I guess you are on your own side. Please tell me oh wise one how can a MONOPOLY be good for the people even if its in the hands of locals.

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