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Outrage Over APUA Billing System

APUA Billing SystemAntigua St. John's - Consumers may have yet another issue to gripe about as the Antigua Public Utilities Authority (APUA) moves to apply certain changes to the presentation of its products and services.

These include the manner of billing, with APUA describing the new approach as representative of “simplification” and “evolution”.

While some may agree that the processes at APUA have indeed been made more simple, others - like individuals looking for detailed readings on their telephone bills - could be of a sharply different view.

As part of its new billing system, the actual telephone numbers have been removed from the bills and replaced with an “account” number. The company has also decided that, for the sake of protecting the environment and saving paper, it will not list the outgoing calls for which consumers are billed.

According to a Customer Service Representatives (CSR) at the statutory body, these two issues have created quite a fracas over the past months, especially from businesses that have multiple telephone lines and numbers.

These days, businesses falling into this category would receive multiple bills with “grand totals” but no explanation as to how these figures were arrived at.

Adding to the hassle, requests to the utility service provider for printed copies of the actual dialed calls are not as easy or simple as one might think.



In fact, Caribarena investigated the matter on Friday and found that the customer service department and the billing department do not appear to be in sync as might be expected. Added to that, APUA has reportedly established a third department to handle the details of the billing, perhaps further complicating the system.

One customer, who seems to have been making the same inquiry as Caribarena, questioned how her company was supposed to keep track of bills when it has no idea what bill is attached to what telephone number.

The customer also disclosed that prior to Friday her organization had not been informed that APUA would no longer be providing businesses with printed copies of their telephone usage.

The CSR at APUA who spoke with Caribarena pointed out that in order for customers and companies with multiple telephone lines to understand the breakdown of their telephone bills, they must first figure out what account number corresponds with which telephone number.

In simple language it means that a business or customer with 10 telephone lines have to wade through as many billing account numbers.

APUA’s solution to that maze is for customers, particularly businesses, who need itemized copies or printouts of outgoing calls from their establishments to come in and meet personally with one of the company’s senior or middle managers in order to make such a request.

Even then, there is little guarantee of how long it will take APUA to honor such requests, given the company’s reputation or rating for efficiency.

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John French II

#28 tenman » 2012-11-11 21:20

John French II, its funny that you mentioned the pre paid system. Found myself thinking of it lately due to my dealings with a local joiner. Not only should they have implemented it for electricity, they should have done the same for land lines. DOMELEC (Dominica elec) offers the prepaid option for electricity. The joiner;s preference is to use his generator not simply because it may be cheaper (I know the Hotel's have stated this for their large generators) but it offers him the budgetary control prepaid cards offer.


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In The Middle Of Difficulty Lies Opportunity!

#27 John French II » 2012-11-11 19:43

Notes From A Native Son Of The Rock! Title courtesy of Einstein. AGS "Old Boys" during Old B's & Blacket's tenures with latin would know Lucius Annaeus Seneca: Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity. Todays Motivational Speakers have rephrased it as Success is when Opportunity Meets Preparation. Take your pick. Hopefully you will not suffer Seneca's fate. He fell on his sword after falling out with his Patron Nero. Responsibility & Accountability!
That APUA has proved troubling for Customers is confirmed by the number of complaints. This commenter has not been sympathetic to the Min, Board or Management for Capital directions. On the recent operational plans, they have made advances.
Customer Service, a basic Change Management tenet is if it brings no value to the Customer, get rid of the Process.
In teaching Management Information Systems, it is always Strategic to be The Low Cost Producer to Gain Market Share.
Here is a Southern African Solution To Electricty which we use for Telecoms: Prepaid Electricity Metering. Customers control their Usage. Operations Savings.
Why Reinvent the Wheel. Benchmark Best Practices!
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RE: Outrage Over APUA Billing System

#26 Rastaman » 2012-11-10 21:29

The pipe dripping and they mopping mopping.....
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RE: Outrage Over APUA Billing System

#25 Apua Employee » 2012-11-10 20:30

I am almost sure that the CSR interviewd by CA is some new emlpoyee who knows nothing,that is how Apua is been run lately,like a family affair,the worse is yet to come,i am just going with the flow.
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Apua Employee

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#24 B-Easy » 2012-11-10 14:08

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. :D
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APUA need to get with the programme

#23 Faithful National » 2012-11-10 13:34

The previous billing system always had the telephone number printed on the bill. The current bills dont. Up to this week I queried about that and the CSR in London House replied that they are tired reporting this complaint to the headoffice personnel. Its crazy when I have post-paid mobile and landline services and when the bills come, i dont have a clue as to which one it represents. So "Hmmmm" and "Haaaaa" and "Satisfied Customer" stop lying.. I know the system very well. Once you have a bank account everybody is issued a debit card. There is no charge for use of this card at any point of sales and the 10% early payment incentive would still apply. So stop talking about credit card charges unless the real issue is that you dont have the money to pay your bill ontime. Online billing using your debit card for payment is a more secure and efficient form of revenue collection for APUA. There are 2 many technology graduates there not to know this and advise management of the benefits of online bill payment. From my account to yours same day. Even better than cheque. You wait days to realise the person doesnt have funds to service the payment. This whole thing is beyond comprehension.
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Satisfied Customer

#22 tenman » 2012-11-10 13:32

Satisfied Customer stop with the exaggeration, I have set up credit card systems for customers and the charges are nowhere near 18 - 20%. The reason for engaging a system like this is it will reduce the risk you now face causing you to have that sign where you tell clerks not to have their bag at the cashing area. It will also reduce the problems you now face of bad cheques. KaribCable Antigua ltd, a company with less customers, offers a direct online paying option. In addition the backward policy of requiring customers to show ID when they are paying via credit card (at the APUA counter) for an account in their own name, needs to stop. Is the idea that the persons stole their credit card to pay their own bill?

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Satisfied Customer

#21 skyewill » 2012-11-10 11:38

Lots of people have debit cards all the banks have them. I can buy goods world wide with my Scotia card issued in Antigua. Please don't change the subject. it's about the new process. The credit card issue/online payment are just us bloggers giving solutions and I am happy you are a happy customer at least they have one. I spend half the year away from home in the US and pay my bills on time 24/7. I even top up LIME, yes my ANU line from anywhere in the world. I am responding to the article I read and I read plenty and I read what you are saying and I can tell you would love to stay in the dark ages. Times have changed Bob, get off your donkey and cart and go see Everton at Hadeed Motors. And thanks for the compliment about a good talk it was very kind of you. I’m not worthy. Me tap tell lie, and me no tief from no body.
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#20 well-said » 2012-11-10 11:38

All APUA needs is an online interface where a customer can login and see their full bill
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2012-11-10 10:11

#19 tenman » 2012-11-10 11:04

meant due date behind (eg due date sept 03,2012 mailing date Sept 09, 2012,received date Sept 11, 2012)

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#18 Satisfied Customer » 2012-11-10 10:53

The bill does detail your land line charges, features and data which is internet. and ABST. Papa was right we are really not a reading public but we talk plenty.
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#17 Satisfied Customer » 2012-11-10 10:51

@ Skyewill, you talk a good talk but think about it.... what percentage of APUA's customers do you think actually have credit cards and will use it to pay their bills online?? I will tell you this not many... why incur a 18 - 20% credit card fee to pay your utillities when persons try their best to get the 10% discount from APUA??? it makes no financial sence
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#16 Me » 2012-11-10 10:46

I get my bills via email since June, the new system allows that and you can also pay online via scotia bank, and others... People just dont like change and that is the bottom line
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skyewill

#15 tenman » 2012-11-10 10:16

skyewill well said. Its truly hard to come from a system where persons utilize technology to one where a manual system, coupled with laziness reigns. Leaving APUA out of it, does it not gripe you that it takes banks here up to 90 days to clear a US bank certified cheque? We then speak of E commerce yet even a bank wire transfer takes longer than a Fedex package

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Hmmmm

#14 tenman » 2012-11-10 10:11

Hmmmm at first I thought what you did, then I noticed they stated "business" customers (NOT RESIDENTIAL).A major gripe for me with APUA telephones is that the bills always arrive with a due date beyond the mailing date. I have heard others calling into talk shows with the same complaint


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@ Toonuff

#13 customer » 2012-11-10 10:07

I pay my bills online, and I was already twice disconnected because APUA did not receive it from the bank on time, when I went to inquire the APUA representative told me it sometimes takes up to 2 weeks for them to receive the transaction from the bank. Backward technology. :-x
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RE: Outrage Over APUA Billing System

#12 Watchful » 2012-11-10 09:19

@ skyewill

Your detailed post**otally agree with, elaborates my innermost outrage at this new attempt by APUA to lay invisible charges on the consumer. this effort to impose a lack of transparency because of the monopoly held by the company, rages against the trade liberalization rules universally accepted, and reflects the neanderthal thinking of a desperately corrupt UPP Mal-Administrat ion. Its time for the people of Antigua & Barbuda to lower their tolerance meter for injustice, and say enough is enough! UPP must go!
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agree

#11 jj » 2012-11-10 09:13

so everyone agrees it is another apua scam. So simple no one pays under the new system without exception and lets see what happens. For once we need a united business front as we all know the upp chamber that is supposed to represent business interests will not do anything!
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Great point.

#10 @ Toonuff » 2012-11-10 09:11

I would add that they allow us not only to view the itemized bills but also the ability to pay bills online.
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Who is flying this space ship pt4

#9 skyewill » 2012-11-10 06:43

AT&T a major telephone company uses your telephone number as your account number. No two customers have the same number so why can’t the telephone number be the account number? So Why/ Why? Why? They need to tell the public why they need to do this and it must be customer based. If it is not about making it easier for the consumer then it is not legit. Something is wrong here and the government needs to step in. Now I am asking the same people who doped poor people out of their Social Security contributions to Stop APUA from doing the same thing.
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#8 Hmmmm » 2012-11-10 06:33

This is doo not true.... check your old telephone bills from last year. It has been years now since the telephone number has not been on the bills and neither was a list of outgoing calls. So these things are nothing new. I have had a land line for over 20 years and you never were able to see all the calls you made unless you went in especially for a print out. Imagine getting a bill with at least 10 pages each moth?? This is a big deal for nothing I have called APUA 611 given them my account number got the telephone numbers attaced to the account with no problem and I kept a record for my office so there is no issue. Get come real news and stop stirring up nonsence. Give APUA a break
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Who is flying this space ship? pt 3

#7 skyewill » 2012-11-10 06:29

You would think since even small towns all over the world for years have the option to pay utilities on line this would have been one of the first real upgrade. Telephone companies do it. Power companies do it and Water and garbage collectors do it. The bills are detailed so the consumer can know what they are paying for. Some of these municipalities have less than 10,000 people living there. So if everybody in the world is giving their customer detailed billing why is APUA not doing it? I have my opinion, What is yours? This should be reported to the department of consumer affairs who should be taking them to court and have an injunction filed to have them quit a process that will have consumers not know what they are paying for and there ought to be a law against this really horrible move.
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Who is flying this space ship? pt 2

#6 skyewill » 2012-11-10 06:27

Now this new process to keep the public in the dark in my opinion will cause confusion and may deepen the culture of overcharging without the knowledge of the customer. According to the press release from APC, APUA charges to the public is much too high for what they pay APC. If APUA truly wanted to save on paper they would do like most utilities do around the world make getting electricity a simpler process. After all these years, I can go back 40. APUA in 2012, the information age still require 3 original hand written legal size application and that’s not all additional papers is added making your first interaction with APUA frustrating. Any intelligent Change agent knows you have to **s the customer experience and that means change must start at the front door forward. APUA’s idea for on line bill payment is, people standing hours on long lines to pay their bill.
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Who is flying this space ship? pt 1

#5 skyewill » 2012-11-10 06:26

This is the most outrageous attempt to have the public pay for APUA’s short falls and is a scam. I have been doing a lot of thinking about the way APUA is managed and I was wondering how where they going to pay APC when they are bankrupt. The first thing I thought of was the deposit APUA requires to set up an account, around $700. When you think of a company so mismanaged you must wonder how they would manage these deposit which are all refundable along with interest should the customer disconnect for any reason. I thought deeply about this and from where I sit. I’ll bet my dollars to your donuts that these deposit are handled just like everything else they do. Most utility companies only charge a deposit to people with short employment history or pass credit problems. They seem to charge everybody, why?
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Price gourging

#4 Landline » 2012-11-10 06:23

This is a tactic for APUA to add a little more to your bill, in the past my telephone bills never went above $50 and that included their $30 rental charges, after the implementation of this new billing system, my bills are never below $65, I tried to get the units used....not the numbers dialled..gettin g the numbers dialled has a cost to it. Getting the units used, that is how water has gallons and electricity has KWH, is not something they understand, call London House is the response, then when you do, call Headquarters is the response, this needs to be audited, this needs to be looked into..this is robbery
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Landline

a lawyer is needed...

#3 Jumbee Picknee » 2012-11-10 06:11

This sounds like you are filing for a divorce from APUA, and fhe Magistrate wants all party's to get counseling first.
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If the top slack the middle and the bottom cannot be tight.

#2 1ken » 2012-11-10 05:28

My God, who is running this place, for the light is on but no one is home.
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APUA On-line Billing

#1 Toonuff » 2012-11-10 05:10

There is such a simple solution to this dilemma. If APUA really want to protect the environment and save paper, why not offer an on-line billing system and make all this information available through the internet.

No more bills to send out (that never arrive), save paper, time, frustration and wasted fuel driving to and from their office - result!!!
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